Sheehans Top 50

[TheOutsider]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

I think Hodge at around 5 is fair enough at then end of the day its one Journos opinion. These types of lists always create different discussions and arguments. Use Judd as an example a lot of people still think he is the best player in the comp so it will be interesting to see if he can reproduce his best. IMO Gazza and Buddy at thier best are a fair way ahead of the rest.

 

[monkeyshine]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Were those players you mentioned able to win a Norm Smith and be the most influenctial player on the ground, during the most important match of the year where you failed miserably?

 

[Tay29]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Were those players you mentioned able to win a Norm Smith and be the most influenctial player on the ground, during the most important match of the year where you failed miserably?

Hehehehe. Nevermind that many thought Ablett should have won it. Norm Smith is for one game and doesn't make you a champion player by itself. Other Norm Smith medallists include;
Andrew Embley
Byron Pickett
Shaun Hart
David Rhys-Jones
Colin Robertson

Obviously they must be out and out champtions, right? Very weak attempt at justification. LOL. One game.....

Now Ablett has won the last two AFL player and coaches MVPs. These are obviously more esteemed than the Norm Smith and cover the whole year. What has Hodge done? 46 brownlow votes in his career compared to 61 for Ablett. Hodge only got 2 last year so even the umpires don't really rate him.

Cats lost by 26 points isn't failing miserably. Your post is a textbook definition though.

 

[hamG]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Luke Power at 30, Sam Fischer at 26 - what? I don't rate either of them whatsoever let alone in a top 50. If I had a choice between Power and Marc Murphy who is not in the list at all well...

I can't really decide on Judd vs Hodge. But I figure if you took each out of their respective teams Hodge is of more importance. Carlton were still a bottom 8 side despite Judd's best efforts and have every chance to still be a bottom 8 side again.

 

[Turbo Abe]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Anyone who complains about this should watch last year's GF again. Dominant player with awesome combination of skill and hardness.

Is simply tougher than any Geelong player of the last 20 years.

 

[Shell]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

As if you'd care about the shit Mike Sheahan writes.
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Agreed.

Paper will be in the bin by 1pm today, article forgotten about. (if i even bother to read it in the first place that is).

 

[TheTimeCometh]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

make a grave for the unlisted soldier.

 

[TheOutsider]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Anyone who complains about this should watch last year's GF again. Dominant player with awesome combination of skill and hardness.

Is simply tougher than any Geelong player of the last 20 years.

Yeah especially Gary Hocking and Selwood you flog.

 

[AM]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Seeing as I'm on the Cats board, two things.

1. Hodge should have been 2. Judd 4-8. Maybe a direct swap.
2. Selwood should have been 8-12.

My guess is Hodge has been downgraded as he won't play that dominating role all year (I hope). We don't want him done at 28 like Dermie. (Though I wouldn't complain about 5 premierships! )

Really rate Hodge. He single-handedly turned your back half from average to a solid unit with his ability and leadership.

Memo Bomber.
Don't let him run around harvesting kicks this year. Get someone to stick to him like a second skin.

 

[fishbowl]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Hodge #1, Ablett Jr #2.

 

[vinum coupe]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Luke Power at 30, Sam Fischer at 26 - what? I don't rate either of them whatsoever let alone in a top 50. If I had a choice between Power and Marc Murphy who is not in the list at all well...

Fair call about Murphy, he was ranked 2nd in the league for kicks last year, but Power was 23rd in kicks, 22nd in handballs, and 14th in tackles. Not bad stats!!
Fisher was 13th in kicks and 4th in marks.

Ablett was 18th in handballs and 24th in tackles.

Stats don't mean everything, but they show that Power and Fisher are not duds.

 

[AM]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Hodge #1, Ablett Jr #2.

Now let's be serious fishy, that's one thing Sheahan got right. However Joel Selwood at 20 something is a joke.

 

[vinum coupe]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Hodge #1, Ablett Jr #2.

Whilst I'm on stats.

Hodge in 08.
72nd in league for kicks, 108th for handballs, 182 for marks, 77th for tackles, 98th for frees against, and wait for it............24th for Frees for.

*s******* influential in your team yes, top 5 in AFL? Pffffttttttt

Also, here are Bartels . he he he he he
1st in league for kicks, 12th for handballs, 54th for marks, 6th for tackles, 12th for frees against, and 9th for Frees for.

 

[Reg Hickey]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Happy with Hodge at #5.

Without him we would be going for our third on the trot this year. Would have him in a heartbeat at the Cats.

 

[noclashjumpers]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Agreed.

Paper will be in the bin by 1pm today, article forgotten about. (if i even bother to read it in the first place that is).

You buy the Heraldsun?

 

[hamG]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

vinum coupe, if you are using season total statistics they are not very useful to players who didn't play every game last year.

 

[CF]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

The whole thing is very subjective really. The guy rates Joel Selwood pretty low when he could clearly be a Brownlow Contender if he plays the way we all think he is going to. It's Mike Sheahans opinion and he is welcome to it. Doesn't mean it is right. Gives the Dawk trolls something to do.

 

[Shell]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

You buy the Heraldsun?

I get it delivered to my school, yes.

Anyway, so what if I read it?

 

[JUBJUB]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Hodge #1, Ablett Jr #2.

How the hell is that troll allowed on our board ?

 

[Simon_Nesbit]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

I'd just like to add - how refreshing to see Geelong and Hawk posters not trolling incessently. It makes any BigFooty visit much more enjoyable.

 

[vinum coupe]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

vinum coupe, if you are using season total statistics they are not very useful to players who didn't play every game last year.

Yeah sure, but where would the fun be in that?

 

[Ninty]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Hodge #1, Ablett Jr #2.

Rooke > Hodge.

Max will show this weak tosser what toughness is all about.

 

[sarah.13]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

Forget tha Ablett /Hodge/ Judd arguement, the most impressive thing to come out of Sheehan's list is : 9 of his top 35 players are cats...
That is simply awsome !!!

 

[couchy555]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

where was corey enright?

 

[Tay29]

Re: Hodge rated no. 5

The whole thing is very subjective really. The guy rates Joel Selwood pretty low when he could clearly be a Brownlow Contender if he plays the way we all think he is going to. It's Mike Sheahans opinion and he is welcome to it. Doesn't mean it is right. Gives the Dawk trolls something to do.

It's not just subjective, it's also crystal ball stuff. The article says who he thinks will have the greatest impact for the 2009 season. I bet if us Cats supporters, each did our own Top 50 there would be widely different lists, even among the Cats players we chose.