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Opinion Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

Should the team ask for a Priority Pick 2025 edition.

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RustyShacklefordFalcon said:
Hypothetically, what happens if we receive a pick to trade and no one worth said pick is willing to come to us?

I would have thought if the AFL is agreeing to give us a pick to trade, we have a target/targets on the hook.
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Use it to bundle up or trade it for a future pick. Not a great draft year to be getting this assistance.
 
WCErevival said:
The AFL would be better off waiving the compo reduction with Starcevich than giving us a pick as it hurts all the other teams.
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Really makes no sense. Only issue I could possibly think of is the bad precedent it sets.

Creating a new pick that disadvantages 17 other teams (including us) instead of letting us just have the player for nothing.
 

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Yippy Yi Yeo said:
Why would avoiding trading hawks 2nd pick for starcevich be a good thing? Much rather trade them that and then use the pick they give us to get someone else as well or better yet use it to move up the draft order
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Agreed. Give Starc for a lesser pick.

15, 19* end of first priority, and pick 34* pick from Carlton for Chesser for pick 6* (Port pick) and Davies thanks.

Gives us 1, 2, 6* and our second rounder (any sliders, ideally Fred), Davies and Starc. Get it done.
 
Keys said:
Fair chance there’ll be some details leaked prior to then as the AFL likes to drip feed information out

Today we had Cal Twomey on Gettable saying we are likely to be granted as many as 4 additional rookie list spots along with the ability to prelist our NGA players

And floated the possibility we might be given a priority pick of unspecified value to trade for a player
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If this happens, and hopefully it does... what does that do with the rest of our draft hand after our second rounder, does it suddenly come into play?

Pre Chesser/Ryan trades..

Picks 33 and 51 were probably going to be used on the NGA's/Banfield and now realistically we could add an additional player or two still on the board. Like big boy cody Curts for example, unless i'm missing something.
 
Dark Sharks said:
If this happens, and hopefully it does... what does that do with the rest of our draft hand after our second rounder, does it suddenly come into play?

Pre Chesser/Ryan trades..

Picks 33 and 51 were probably going to be used on the NGA's/Banfield and now realistically we could add an additional player or two still on the board. Like big boy cody Curts for example, unless i'm missing something.
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Shallow draft, maybe we'll end up trading them to nepo babies who need points to move up the order this year, or into next year's draft?

Another big clean out looms next year.
 
If granted early access to NGA. Our 2nd rounders and 3rd become obsolete.

I'd either package up those, plus Ryan and Chesser to either trading up (something different) or moving them to next year.

I've got a sick feeling we're splitting 1 or 2.

Hopefully after Essendon mess they come with a silly offer for 1
 
Dark Sharks said:
If this happens, and hopefully it does... what does that do with the rest of our draft hand after our second rounder, does it suddenly come into play?

Pre Chesser/Ryan trades..

Picks 33 and 51 were probably going to be used on the NGA's/Banfield and now realistically we could add an additional player or two still on the board. Like big boy cody Curts for example, unless i'm missing something.
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There’s two advantages to having the additional rookie list spots and being able to prelist the NGA players

Firstly, as you’ve highlighted, we don’t need to use/hold draft picks to match bids on our NGA players. That said, it’s debatable as to whether any of our NGAs would attract a bid earlier than R3 meaning we could match that bid using any pick provided we had a list spot available

Which leads to the second, more important advantage. Being able to prelist them onto an expanded Cat B list means we don’t have to use up a main list spot. Without this assistance we’d have a major dilemma/list squeeze

As it stands we will have picks 1 and 2 plus wherever our R2 and R4 picks lands along with the Hawthorn R1,2 and 3 picks. After other FA compo and assuming Hawthorn lose to Geelong that’ll be something like 1,2,18,23,37,55 and 77

Seven picks that marries up with the 7 list spots we’ll have available after Allen, Ryan and Chesser depart. Ryan and Chesser will also give us draft picks of an as yet unknown value to add to what we already have albeit possibly future picks

Without the ability to add our NGAs that would become a problem. With that draft hand you’d want to be bringing in at least 3, arguably 4, high end draft picks. We also need to add some experience so are looking at bringing in maybe 3 players via trade. So we’d have used up basically all our list spots without even looking at our NGA players or Banfield

Prelisting takes away that problem as we don’t need main list spots for them. It’s a significant lever for us and one that is likely to be underestimated by many as it’s of more value to us than a priority pick
 
Keys said:
There’s two advantages to having the additional rookie list spots and being able to prelist the NGA players

Firstly, as you’ve highlighted, we don’t need to use/hold draft picks to match bids on our NGA players. That said, it’s debatable as to whether any of our NGAs would attract a bid earlier than R3 meaning we could match that bid using any pick provided we had a list spot available

Which leads to the second, more important advantage. Being able to prelist them onto an expanded Cat B list means we don’t have to use up a main list spot. Without this assistance we’d have a major dilemma/list squeeze

As it stands we will have picks 1 and 2 plus wherever our R2 and R4 picks lands along with the Hawthorn R1,2 and 3 picks. After other FA compo and assuming Hawthorn lose to Geelong that’ll be something like 1,2,18,23,37,55 and 77

Seven picks that marries up with the 7 list spots we’ll have available after Allen, Ryan and Chesser depart. Ryan and Chesser will also give us draft picks of an as yet unknown value to add to what we already have albeit possibly future picks

Without the ability to add our NGAs that would become a problem. With that draft hand you’d want to be bringing in at least 3, arguably 4, high end draft picks. We also need to add some experience so are looking at bringing in maybe 3 players via trade. So we’d have used up basically all our list spots without even looking at our NGA players or Banfield

Prelisting takes away that problem as we don’t need main list spots for them. It’s a significant lever for us and one that is likely to be underestimated by many as it’s of more value to us than a priority pick
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this, gives us much more to play with regarding trades.
 
Sounds like these potential list spots really aren't something to be sneezed at.

It's quite a valuable benefit, given it gives you flexibility to draft someone else, or have those picks now put up for trade, or potential to even improve your draft hand etc etc.
 
Dark Sharks said:
Sounds like these potential list spots really aren't something to be sneezed at.

It's quite a valuable benefit, given it gives you flexibility to draft someone else, or have those picks now put up for trade, or potential to even improve your draft hand etc etc.
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Given so many list spaces, we'll be able to take more picks worth points into the draft. This may prove useful as we may 'hold' points picks for other teams who don't have enough list spots to take all their points picks and take them to the draft.

We then trade those picks to them for futures or a slightly 'better' draft pick.
 

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Have I lost count or are we already locked into 9 list changes? And that's without the possible extra rookie spots.

Oscar Allen + Chesser + Ryan want trade/out
Gov + Sheed + Jayden Hunt retire
Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts

Even if we get to add/pre-list our NGA or rookie numbers we've got a lot of main list spots (7?) to fill. Or does the LTI/MSD chew up a couple?
Any assistance of tradable picks may be forced into a buyers market and we either take less than it's worth, overpay for a player, or (probably best option) trade it out into next years draft. If any assistance includes picks that must be traded for players then it really becomes a 'WC over a barrel' situation.
 
MrWoollie said:
Have I lost count or are we already locked into 9 list changes? And that's without the possible extra rookie spots.

Oscar Allen + Chesser + Ryan want trade/out
Gov + Sheed + Jayden Hunt retire
Jack Petruccelle, Callum Jamieson and Loch Rawlinson not offered new contracts

Even if we get to add/pre-list our NGA or rookie numbers we've got a lot of main list spots (7?) to fill. Or does the LTI/MSD chew up a couple?
Any assistance of tradable picks may be forced into a buyers market and we either take less than it's worth, overpay for a player, or (probably best option) trade it out into next years draft. If any assistance includes picks that must be traded for players then it really becomes a 'WC over a barrel' situation.
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Nine out, but two of those spots go to McCarthy and Newton. So seven spots to fill

Though I'd think there's still probably some chance that Ryan doesn't end up leaving - contracted players asking to move and it not getting done is not new. I'd rate it about 15% chance that he's still an Eagle in '26.

Probably also a 2% chance that the AFL's magic sauce coughs up band 2 for Allen, not band 1 - which means he stays, or there's a whole new monster trade to be done. But Brisbane don't have much capital for that, so I reckon they'll just up the offer to make it band 1.
 
Mr Q said:
Nine out, but two of those spots go to McCarthy and Newton. So seven spots to fill

Though I'd think there's still probably some chance that Ryan doesn't end up leaving - contracted players asking to move and it not getting done is not new. I'd rate it about 15% chance that he's still an Eagle in '26.

Probably also a 2% chance that the AFL's magic sauce coughs up band 2 for Allen, not band 1 - which means he stays, or there's a whole new monster trade to be done. But Brisbane don't have much capital for that, so I reckon they'll just up the offer to make it band 1.
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0% chance of it not being band 1, Brisbane know full well that our only salary cap problem is hitting the floor. If they want to get him it has to be band 1.
 
Brandon Starcevich is 26 - don't do what Saint's supporters did to Liam Ryan. Poor guy is going on 50 in that trade thread.

Brandon is the perfect age profile. WC dont pay Harley next year (and now Jeremy) which means we can front load the F*** out of a few contracts. It will be tough to get a bonafide midfield star, but I hope WC are chasing Jack Steele and Lachie Neale even if its a very long shot. Brandon makes WC instantly better which we really need
 
I am hoping we get priority access to our NGA talent this year and next. Watching McGlade and Kenh next year without the fear they will rise up the draft boards would be a little treat.
 

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From a Cal Twomey article on the AFL website

For the Commission, the most immediate decision they have to make is on West Coast's bid for list assistance. The Eagles have made their final submission on their request for help after discussions with the AFL, and up to four extra rookie positions looks part of the likely outcome.

That would see the club be able to list more of its Next Generation Academy players, while also giving the Eagles room to add experienced players as rookies to bring experience to their list. West Coast has also raised receiving an end-of-first round pick that it can hold or be forced to trade, in a move that would make trading for Brisbane's Brandon Starcevich simpler given its pick hand.

Access to Academy players under pre-list terms without having to match a bid, like Gold Coast received in 2019-20, would also be high on their agenda.
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Ability to prelist✅
Four extra rookie list spots✅
End of R1 priority pick a possibility ✅

Linking that priority pick to a potential Starcevich trade as a work around for not giving us an exemption from FA dilution❌

The extra pick to trade for Starcevich is something Twomey has been pushing and it makes no sense. It totally ignores that under normal circumstances Brisbane would NOT be entitled to receive FA compensation and whilst as a RFA they’d be entitled to match and force a trade, they almost certainly won’t be in a position to match what we’re offering

It’s a nonsense. The Hawthorn R2 pick should be more than enough as a trade for Starcevich
 
Keys said:
From a Cal Twomey article on the AFL website



Ability to prelist✅
Four extra rookie list spots✅
End of R1 priority pick a possibility ✅

Linking that priority pick to a potential Starcevich trade as a work around for not giving us an exemption from FA dilution❌

The extra pick to trade for Starcevich is something Twomey has been pushing and it makes no sense. It totally ignores that under normal circumstances Brisbane would NOT be entitled to receive FA compensation and whilst as a RFA they’d be entitled to match and force a trade, they almost certainly won’t be in a position to match what we’re offering

It’s a nonsense. The Hawthorn R2 pick should be more than enough as a trade for Starcevich
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It makes alot of sense and Im almost certain its pretty much already set. It's exactly what a PP should be used for
 
amazingjoshy said:
It makes alot of sense and Im almost certain its pretty much already set. It's exactly what a PP should be used for
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I have no issue making us use the pick to trade for an experienced player. That’s fine. My issue is linking a possible end of R1 pick to Starcevich because that’s an overpay

We’d need to be getting something back from Brisbane in that scenario
 
Keys said:
I have no issue making us use the pick to trade for an experienced player. That’s fine. My issue is linking a possible end of R1 pick to Starcevich because that’s an overpay

We’d need to be getting something back from Brisbane in that scenario
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I can think of three other BNE players who would improve the WCE list that could be packaged in. Dev would be my first preference
 
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