Snooperclydes draft updated daily

[saxymaxy]

Would love that draft!

Although apparently T Taylors mum is against the eagles and although i disagree, they seem uninterested.

Therefore i would prefer Bartlett!!!

My dream draft:

jetta
sheppard
Bartlett
*drool*

 

[Snooperclyde]

Another "Port needs a ruckman" Phantom Draft

Do you guys bother to to do any research, or just go with the superficial flow?

Have a read of another post I did



Matt Lobbe had a terrific 2nd half of the SANFL season once he transferred to West Adelaide and played as their number 1 ruckman.

Brogan has another good 2 to 3 seasons in him, remember he came into footy at around 23 years old.

Jarrad Redden at 18 years old, 202cm and 95kg is no pinch hitter beanpole.

Daniel Stewart is probably more a forward that can ruck & Jackson Trengove is a key position player.

Having 22 year old Melbourne born & raised Daniel Bass, at 198cm & 100kg, is some more insurance, plus I believe we will rookie list another junior ruckman.

So, do you still reckon we'll use any of picks 8, 9 or 16 on another "unproven beanpole kid"?

Any player under 200cms is not a genuine ruckman, so only the supremely hopeful or desperate would count them.
Naitanui is 201cms with a terrific leap and Cox is 204cm mobile big man.

Yes these two are the equal of any combination but how do you propose to compete?

Take them on with undersized players or take a rookie.

I think Port will take Vardy if available but now Cameron Cloke has been linked to you guys you might just pick up another undersized option.

Good Luck with that.

 

[Asgardian]

Any player under 200cms is not a genuine ruckman, so only the supremely hopeful or desperate would count them.
Naitanui is 201cms with a terrific leap and Cox is 204cm mobile big man.

Yes these two are the equal of any combination but how do you propose to compete?

Take them on with undersized players or take a rookie.

I think Port will take Vardy if available but now Cameron Cloke has been linked to you guys you might just pick up another undersized option.

Good Luck with that.

And how exactly will Vardy help in seasons 2010 or 2011?

He wont, so we play Brogan, who is still very good, plus a combination of Lobbe, Redden, Stewart & Bass (maybe?) in support roles.

I have said on many occasions that I'd like to see Port recruit a big bodied, mature & experienced ruckman from one of the state or country leagues, as the Crows did when they found Ben Hudson. This bloke would be insurance if Brogan was injured, he wouldn't be playing instead of one of the young blokes in a support role.

 

[Asgardian]

Regarding Port Adelaides ruck situation, Port are in a river in Egypt. They are in de fuc**** Nile. I don't care how many blokes on Port's list that they call ruckmen. They have one old, broken down, often injured and frequently suspended ruckman.

And because an idiot thinks so it's true????????

How about some facts about Dean Brogan

2003 Played 23
2004 Played 23
2005 Played 14
2006 Played 15
2008 Played 21
2009 Played 20

mmmm, doesn't look like an "old, broken down, often injured and frequently suspended ruckman" to me

Other
than that, they have Trengove who is not a ruck,
has injury concerns and has not played a game.
Then they have 4 or 5 physcially underdeveloped
SANFL reserves ruckmen. Get real Port. you need
a ruckman, in fact you need 2 ruckmen.

Jackson Trengove played the 2nd half of the SANFL season in the Port Magpies senior team, but I like him better as a key position player.

Matt Lobbe played the 2nd half of the SANFL season in the West Adelaide senior team as a ruckman and did a damn good job.

Jarrad Redden alternated between Woodville/West Torrens senior and reserves team, but at only 18 and growing he has time on his side

Daniel Stewart played mainly in the North Adelaide senior team changing between key forward and some rucking

Daniel Bass is a 22yo, 198cm wildcard, grew up in Melbourne, so knows footy, knows the skills, but played basketball here and in USA with a man's body, strength and speed.

 

[Asgardian]

Any player under 200cms is not a genuine ruckman, so only the supremely hopeful or desperate would count them.
Naitanui is 201cms with a terrific leap and Cox is 204cm mobile big man.

Yes these two are the equal of any combination but how do you propose to compete?

Take them on with undersized players or take a rookie.

I think Port will take Vardy if available but now Cameron Cloke has been linked to you guys you might just pick up another undersized option.

Good Luck with that.

BTW, Vardy is "only" 198cm, so he too is not a genuine ruckman?

 

[Tulip]

how is Taylor going to us and you? Loving the Butch @ 11

 

[Snooperclyde]

BTW, Vardy is "only" 198cm, so he too is not a genuine ruckman?

18yo and is likely to grow a little more.

Vardy has a good leap and is a good tap ruckman.

 

[Asgardian]

So too does Lobbe & Stewart whilst Redden is 202cm and taps the ball with skill

You are using double standards

 

[Snooperclyde]

So too does Lobbe & Stewart whilst Redden is 202cm and taps the ball with skill

You are using double standards

you get your wish, Vardy linked elsewhere and Cloke looks like being selected by you in the PSD = I must change this pick.

When Brogan leave's I hope Lobbe can back Redden up because I'm not so sure Stewart can make a league ruckman, he is only 22 I suppose but has not shown enough to date.

I still think ruckman is your weakest link even if Cloke comes to you.
Brogan injury = big problem.

 

[edstar10]

good draft so far, i would pick christensen with pick 24, not fitzpatrick, would rather get a big guy with pick 33, anyway, good draft and it looks like everyone is on the LUKE BALL=ESSENDON bandwagon.

 

[Snooperclyde]

good draft so far, i would pick christensen with pick 24, not fitzpatrick, would rather get a big guy with pick 33, anyway, good draft and it looks like everyone is on the LUKE BALL=ESSENDON bandwagon.

Melbourne out of the equation and Brisbane's first pick at 27, Salary cap relief with McPhee almost certain to head back to Freo. You will get ball IMO, will be a big asset.

You do need to draft a ruckman just in case the injured boys have more trouble. Fitspatrick could be available at 33 though.

 

[LukeParkerno1]

Fitspatrick could be available at 33 though.

Hope we pick Gawn if he is there at 33, he is a guy you could work with a bit. Who knows what he could be. Out of all the KPP's in this draft I rate him as the guy with the most potential.

 

[Asgardian]

I still think ruckman is your weakest link even if Cloke comes to you.
Brogan injury = big problem.

Can't disagree with that, if Brogan picks up a long term injury, it'll be a "throw 'em to the wolves" situation.

Still, who knows, one of them may click like a Dean Cox, or at the other end of the scale, play like a Cain Ackland, ugh.

From all that, drafting Vardy still wouldn't help in 2010.

Cheers

 

[Snooperclyde]

Can't disagree with that, if Brogan picks up a long term injury, it'll be a "throw 'em to the wolves" situation.

Still, who knows, one of them may click like a Dean Cox, or at the other end of the scale, play like a Cain Ackland, ugh.

From all that, drafting Vardy still wouldn't help in 2010.

Cheers

I have made the changes but Ando's draft countdown has agreed with my original stance.

• VERY much a transitional period for Port Adelaide that will go into 2010 with just six players remaining from its 2004 Premiership list.

And they have holes to fill, beginning up forward where Warren Tredrea was a lone tall too often in 2009. So they will target this area early in the draft with one of picks 8 or 9.

And they will get a genuinely good player, possibly John Butcher, depending on what Sydney, North and West Coast do above them.

They also need another ruckman to ensure an area that has long been one of strength remains so.

This year's draft isn't full of quality rucking kids, but Port may be forced to use 16 on such a player to fill a
requirement.

In the midfield they have lost a Rolls-Royce in Shaun Burgoyne but have a couple of BMWs coming through in Travis Boak and Hamish Hartlett.

But you can't have too many in today's game of Midfield Rules, so expect the Power to use 8 or 9 on the best available runner available.

Where do they finish in 2010? You would think the eight would be beyond them and it would be more a season of getting games into the kids.


PICKS: 8, 9, 16, 88, 97

WEAKNESSES: With Tredrea almost 31 they must find some replacement tall forwards.

Jackson Trengove showed some really good signs in the SANFL and is expected to play early while brothers Justin and Matthew Westhoff need to put together some serious games.

RUCK: With Brendon Lade retiring, it leaves 30-year-old Dean Brogan and a couple of project players in Matthew Lobbe and Jarrad Redden. Port was really happy with the way Lobbe finished the season at West Adelaide.

DEFENCE: Alipate Carlile and Troy Chaplin take two of the opposition talls, but with Toby Thurstans and Daryl Wakelin gone in recent years, they need another big defender. Trengove could line up there.

THE ANALYSIS

Port needs a key forward and the best credentialled is John Butcher.

He is the best rated of the key forwards and at 197cm is going to become a very powerful and strong-marking, key-position player down the track.

"You would imagine they will use pick 9 on the best midfielder available and then may be forced to use 16 on a ruckman, which on 2009 form should be Nathan Vardy from Gippsland." AFL talent development officer Kevin Sheehan.

I had Tapscott, Talia and Vardy.

Now Tapscott, Butcher and Stevens.

 

[Asgardian]

IMO Trengove will be the 3rd tall backman aiding Carlile and Chaplin in defence for 2010, which I believe added to Surjan, Krakouer, Thomas, Paul Stewart, Pettigrew, Broadbent, Nash, Marlon Motlop & Meyer puts us in a healthy defensive situation

The tall forward structure is less rosey, although the monolith (Tredrea) is still a quality player. I have high hopes for Nick Salter, added with the now disappointing Westhoff brothers, developing Daniel Stewart and lost soul Jay Schulz means we need to add to this position immediately, John Butcher may help in 2010, or even, and I shake with fear here, Cam Cloke.

Due to the above I see John Butcher as a whole lot more necessary than Daniel Talia, hence my preference.

Plus have a look at Geelong's set up, it's all about a mean defence, superb midfield and attack that can get the job done because of the sheer quantity of quality supply.

Hence I want 2 more quality midfielders plus the tall forward in this draft.

This gives us 100% quality midfield rotations, a fine defence, and an attack that can hopefully complete the deal.

 

[Snooperclyde]

Finally the first three rounds have taken shape, how has your team fared?

You like? ;-)

You loath :-(

 

[RobbieK]

What do you consider Sydney's deficiencies?

I ask because you have us going for Carlisle with your second first round pick - do you really think that between Goodes, White, Johston and almost definitely Bradshaw our key forward stocks are low?

 

[Snooperclyde]

What do you consider Sydney's deficiencies?

I ask because you have us going for Carlisle with your second first round pick - do you really think that between Goodes, White, Johston and almost definitely Bradshaw our key forward stocks are low?

Didn't you just answer your own question

Hall and Mickey O gone, Bradshaw a short term project, Goodes is getting on.

Remember these kids need a few years to develop and you will need them desperately in three years.

Power/tall forwards will be at a premium in the next two compromised drafts.

 

[Snooperclyde]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ball-likely-to-become-a-demon/2009/11/21/1258220010915.html

Ball going to Melbourne and Freo serious about passing Morabito has a domino effect on my phantom draft, the changes have been made.

 

[pinkus maximus]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ball-likely-to-become-a-demon/2009/11/21/1258220010915.html

Ball going to Melbourne and Freo serious about passing Morabito has a domino effect on my phantom draft, the changes have been made.

huh? media are reporting that we are taking him

 

[shell23]

i think if Talia is there at pick 12 the blues will pick him not Aaron Black

 

[CharlieM]

http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/rfnews/ball-likely-to-become-a-demon/2009/11/21/1258220010915.html

Ball going to Melbourne and Freo serious about passing Morabito has a domino effect on my phantom draft, the changes have been made.

Where have you heard this.
I noticed Emma Quale's rating's has Morabito at 9 in the rankings (not her draft order).

 

[Snooperclyde]

huh? media are reporting that we are taking him

Don't worry, misunderstanding!

"Freo might pass Morabito" = I assume they're looking elsewhere.

I double check after the story in the Sunday Times and find out they are dead keen on Trengove should he slip..........interesting, can't wait for draft day.

EQ's rating is a bit of a concern though.

Change my PD again!

 

[hedgehog]

Don't worry, misunderstanding!

"Freo might pass Morabito" = I assume they're looking elsewhere.

I double check after the story in the Sunday Times and find out they are dead keen on Trengove should he slip..........interesting, can't wait for draft day.

EQ's rating is a bit of a concern though.

Change my PD again!

Not a bad effort at all Snooperclyde. I like the players you've given us, although I think you have overlooked our need for talls. Currently, our young tall stocks are Clarke (ruckman) and Sibosado/Shepheard (Rookies). With 5 picks in the top 50 we will grab at the very minimum 2 talls and probably anouther with pick 52.

I'm not sure which to refer to because you've said we'll take Rohan and Morabito, but assuming it's Morabito, you've gone for us (after pick 4)...
Taylor
Fyfe
Weedon
McPhee

None of which will fill a spine position. From who is available in your phantom, I think we'd go 48 - Hartigan 49 - Houghton (I doubt both of these players would drop that far but anyway) and probably 52 - Luff (although you didn't get that far).

But a good effort overall, I think you've put a lot of thought into the picks. Well done

 

[Snooperclyde]

Not a bad effort at all Snooperclyde. I like the players you've given us, although I think you have overlooked our need for talls. Currently, our young tall stocks are Clarke (ruckman) and Sibosado/Shepheard (Rookies). With 5 picks in the top 50 we will grab at the very minimum 2 talls and probably anouther with pick 52.

I'm not sure which to refer to because you've said we'll take Rohan and Morabito, but assuming it's Morabito, you've gone for us (after pick 4)...
Taylor
Fyfe
Weedon
McPhee

None of which will fill a spine position. From who is available in your phantom, I think we'd go 48 - Hartigan 49 - Houghton (I doubt both of these players would drop that far but anyway) and probably 52 - Luff (although you didn't get that far).

But a good effort overall, I think you've put a lot of thought into the picks. Well done

McPhee can play CHB and this will release McPharlin to spend more time forward.

I think this is the primary reason McPhee has been considered.

Tall options can be taken later and I think Winmar could be headed your way.

Subiaco is not the best oval for tall players eg; the Doggies always play well at Subi. So Taylor, Fyfe and Weedon could cause some havoc in the coming years.