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But then, this could be a difference between the way I see things and the way everyone else sees them.
That's all you needed to say, the principle does not change.
... because your argument - that nationalism doesn't kill people/cause racism/cause exceptionalism, people kill people/are racist/believe themselves and their nation is exceptional - is irrational.
Ummm......... you might want to read what you just posted here. A gun in of itself can not do anything, it requires another component to do so. This cannot be argued.
There's nothing utopian about the concept of co-operation
I never stated or suggested that, what I did say was 'not everybody can co operate' in other words it's utopian to think everyone co operates. If everyone co operated there'd be no need for to compete for anything.
And people on the right wonder why they're often labelled ideologically stagnant.
If you're suggesting that I'm right wing then think again, it is not 'stagnant' or 'right wing' to question why pride in nation is viewed as a negative
I think there's a profound irony in the fact that people who would profess their love for their country on one hand would deny (to confine this down to a single area, in order to avoid excess generalisation) Aboriginal land rights, indigenous culture its intellectual underpinning, and even aboriginality itself.
To profess pride in nation does not exclude one to have concerns on societal issues that you've provided here. They're not exclusive, and you're correlating pride in nation as an automatic dismissal or ignorance to those issue. Sure there'd be a very minuscule number of people who are exactly that, it would not be the majority though. You give the impression that it's a one size fits all, it is not.