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Treloar's contract put many suitors off. He was being paid as much (or almost as much) as Dusty.

Stephenson - yeah I tend to think there's more to the story. I tend to think he's been a very bad boy and Collingwood have had enough. They could have gotten rid of someone else as part of their salary cup dump. He just made it easy for them to include him in the list. IMO.

Phillips - he will be a loss. Hard running 2 way wingers are priceless in today's game.

Sure, but they still have DeGoey?
 

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Totally. And now the question is who was responsible? Is it Guy? Walsh? Anderson? Someone with even more power? At a minimum, Guy's and Walsh's positions are untenable. Even if they had little to do with Grundy's contract extension and Beams, in the public eye they are the ones responsible. Unless Maguire wants to put his hand up (which I doubt...he's not that type of bloke).


Eddie is responsible for everything. All these people plus the coach and all the members of the Collingwood board are Eddie appointees. He owns the Magpies, that is why he feels, like a proper owner, that he doesn’t need to explain anything to anyone about his property. Not even to the Collingwood members, who are clearly viewed as the pleb, being there to cheer and validate the emperor/dictator and nothing else. Collingwood displays all the tell-tell signs of a banana republic or a Latin America dictatorship. Corruption, jobs for the boys/girls, incompetence and mismanagement at all operational levels of the club, including list and injury management. And Eddie McEverywhere- who has run out of of pies rather than fingers- dominating the landscape for 20+ years now with no end in sight...
 
Sure, but they still have DeGoey?

DeGoey is kind of like Dane Swan - doesn't matter what their relationship to Buckley is or was, they are/were untouchable.
 
I still don't get problem and puzzlement I have is with non-Collingwood media people and non-Collingwood fans so desperately wanting answers and some sort of admission of "guilt", and for the Pies to be "held to account" for their "crime". Like, why not just enjoy the Pies supposed "failure", or just be indifferent (if you're not directly affected), and move on? I know the tabloid AFL media has to fashion and survive on "scandal", but how does this negatively affect the average non-Collingwood supporter?

Are you new to the footy media?

West Coast is still being held to account for players who took recreational drugs 15 years ago!!
 
I think the back ending of the deal was the whole point. Their cap was obviously at bursting point when they re-contracted him but by delaying the years of higher payments they thought they could balance things in the short-term.

I'm surprised more hasn't been said about Collingwood's decision to bring Dayne Beams back. From the outside it seems that that deal was the catalyst for what has happened now. Obviously bringing him back has been an unmitigated disaster but even if he didn't have off field issues, and was playing to his previous AA standard, did anyone think that Collingwood were lacking another classy mid when they lost the 2018 GF?

To think the likes of Jeremy Cameron, Tom Lynch and Joe Daniher have changed clubs since then while Collingwood persist of a forward line of Cox/Mihocek is just staggering. Any of those three would turn Collingwood into a near GF certainty IMO.
A few points to make here.

Plenty has been made about the horrendous Beams outcome, more would be...but the delicate nature of his condition means media leave well alone.

Pies GF loss was because we were well beaten in the middle. Up forward Cox actually had a great second half, our problem was the Eagles controlled the ball and we could barely get an inside 50...so yes, another mid was a need. We just picked the wrong one.

The point is that if we held onto Treloar, Stepho and Phillips we would be unable to attract players to help us improve. Club obviously decided that all have 3 have flaws and that they won’t deliver on contracts that were signed back in 18....so have moved them on.

It was handled woefully, but better make a decision than just stick with blokes who you feel will no longer provide value or help you win a flag.
 
Performance clauses - they kept kicking the can down the road, and it's finally come to a head.
They way they have handled the player exits though has been woeful, and to pretend this is "to get back into the draft" is insulting to football fans who don't buy spin. Pies fans are justifiably angry.
I do wonder how it got to the point it did.

If it hadn’t been so urgent they could have staggered the departures and dragged in some very good picks, then placated the supporters saying they were targeting the draft.

Seems pretty clear they had no choice but to jettison players quickly and cheaply, so you’d have to think the risk of breaching the cap was very real. Denying it was a big issue has to be BS.
 

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