Something needs to be done!

[brentoncowell]

Whats going on in this country with its music selection is shocking, the stupidity of brain-washed minds are sinking to new lows on the ignorance scales.

The truely sad thing about the charts is it depicts how stupid and feeble minded some people in our country are. Those people that are influenced by the U.S of gay and lower thier standards and accept such trash are a disgrace to the country. I think it stems from the schoolyard, thats why i think they should employ a rock appreciation class into every school, anyone seen school of rock?

If people are going to persist listen to such filth as they are now, we need to spread the word of rock n roll back into every lounge room, this would be helped by such programs as video hits which greatly influences young minds, telling them **** music is hip, crap music is cool, talentless bums are idols. How about showcasing some talent???

I think one beauty of great rock, punk, metal and there offsprings of genres is the fact that the music isnt as recognised by an entire group. i.e there are so many talented acts struggling to get gigs in local pubs. There is so much musical talent out there which goes unrecognisede because of such artists reaching stardom without talent. People like Chingy and Jay-Z, Shaggy and the likes they simply have no talents at all and have people kissing the very ground they walk on.

I just thought such an issue had to be adressed, in addition to the one started earlier today, and as out-of-the-box as some of the suggestions will be, anyone have any thoughts on how to rebel against the chart topping pop poo and justify great and original music again?

 

[smasha]

School of rock-great movie about great music not the trash of today.

World is dying if the music scene is a judge-feel sorry for young folk-the older folk are the cool people now

 

[The Passenger]

Just simply have a look at the top 10 singles this week (or about 50 of the 51 weeks of the year) to see how ordinary the standard of music is on this planet currently.

 

[David Votoupal]

The first thing I do is simply not turn the radio on! Except for Triple M now and then and the odd oldies station.

I wished there was a simple solution to preventing our kids from listening to all that crap, unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any at the moment!

 

[rfctigerarmy]

Originally posted by David Votoupal
The first thing I do is simply not turn the radio on! Except for Triple M now and then and the odd oldies station.

I wished there was a simple solution to preventing our kids from listening to all that crap, unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any at the moment!

All that rap n **** is crap. I hate it.. Im 15 and I dont like it.

50 Cent man he is so cool with his gold necklack going to his belly button and his 6 pack with his fully sick cap. OMG I wish I was him.

To think that Guy is Number 1 in AUSTRALIA has got me beat. That song and him and the whole Australia Idol thing is pathetic. I dont believe what we are listening to.

I switch on the Fox sometimes at night (hot30 countdown) and they got like 15 songs which are Americans rapping.

Fair dinkem..

 

[TheWackedYak]

Gotta blame market forces...

Most c/rap and R & B in the charts is coconut music - might have a black face, but whiteys are pulling the strings. White music execs know that a majority of teenagers are materialistic dip****s, and by dressing up so-called musicians in designer sports gear, the cash register just keeps a tickin'.

As crap as it is, it's easily digestible by the masses. Good music (whatever that is) aint. The solution? who knows? just don't don't expect it from Commercial Radio.

 

[Adrian Shelton]

My early 90's radio tapes are more valuable to me by the day, (who needs Eminem when you've got Snow) even the more commercial R'nB sounds back then still sound good(eg Johnny Gill 'The Floor') and the more alternative/grungy you get('till about 95-96) the better. Then from around 98 onward all the alternative sounds slowly began to fall into the wrong hands(eg Totally addicted to bass) and by 2002 it was a shambles.

 

[north_lad]

this is only half the problem. the worst part is when the dumb ****s tell you that the half decent music YOU listen to is bad. AAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!
"this music sucks man, lets listen to some delta and some hip-hop" yuck yuck yuck yuck

 

[Nic]

Y'all care far too much. Let people listen to what they want.

 

[bucksisbest]

Stop being such self important dip****s and enjoy the music you like .
You never know alot of people might find your music tastes absolutely dire.

 

[TheWackedYak]

Originally posted by bucksisbest
Stop being such self important dip****s and enjoy the music you like .
You never know alot of people might find your music tastes absolutely dire.

Yup.

 

[David Votoupal]

Originally posted by Adrian Shelton
My early 90's radio tapes are more valuable to me by the day,

Hahahahahaha I wished I had taped airplay back then too! The rivalry between 2Day FM and Triple M (especially that priceless soundbyte when one of the Triple M cleaners called into 2Day FM!), the great variety you could get at 2SM, 2WS, 2UW and 2KA/One FM, not to mention 2WL/Wave FM, and further north Coast Rock FM, 2NX and New FM. Definitely more variety in radio back then, before the whole aggregation and networking crap took over

 

[wang]

My early 90's radio tapes are more valuable to me by the day, (who needs Eminem when you've got Snow) even the more commercial R'nB sounds back then still sound good(eg Johnny Gill 'The Floor') and the more alternative/grungy you get('till about 95-96) the better. Then from around 98 onward all the alternative sounds slowly began to fall into the wrong hands(eg Totally addicted to bass) and by 2002 it was a shambles.

Couldnt agree more.

 

[brentoncowell]

bucks is best, nic, i know there always has to be someone against what is being said, but the situation is getting out of hand, and i feel like complaining about it. Have you 2 got kids?

 

[Stealth bomber]

The problem is, teens buy records because the singer is "hot". The music is an afterthought.

So everyone likes to perve at Britney Spears. Great. Buy a poster. Don't buy the $%#@ing CD if you're only interested in what she looks like.

 

[Nic]

Originally posted by brentoncowell
Have you 2 got kids?

God no, but when I do they can listen to whatever the hell they want as long as they use earphones, so I can listen to my old fogey music in peace.

 

[Carlos]

For the last year i have been in the paradoxical juxtaposition of playing and trying to push a band in the Melbourne original scene whilst also paying my bills by playing 3-4 nights a week in a coverband which i run (completely different band).

A conflict of interests if ever there was one! On the one hand i'm battling against the sh*te that lures the kids away from challenging themselves and stepping outside the mainstream and discovering something new and grassroots, and on the other hand i'm promoting the very evil i'm fighting against by playing it to the little buggers on sickeningly regular basis!! Not to mention getting paid a ridiculous amount (in comparison to the orignal stuff) for doing it.

Because i have to grit my teeth and regurgitate this crap, i choose to try and be blisffuly ignorant at all other times and simply refuse to listen to any form of FM radio, and instead listen to what i choose to listen to.

Thats the key here people: choice.

I can't empathise with you brentoncowell because i don't have young minds which i am responsible for. But i guess all you can do is lead the horse to what you consider is the right water. If it drinks, great. If it goes thursty, then so be it. Hopefully they'll sort it out in the long run. I'm sure if we all look back to when we were young impressionable kids, we'll all have a few musical skeletons that we look back on and shake our heads.

 

[lioness]

I agree with Carlos, it's all about choice. You can't force someone to listen to ANY type of music, music is such an individual thing.

All I can suggest if you have children is have lots of good music on hand and they will probably have a listen themselves. All I remember is my parents played their own music around me, and I chose my own favourites out of that. Don't force them to listen to it though, because as I said our musical tastes are individual and just because you don't like it, you can't MAKE them like something. Well I guess if you're a parent you can do what you want, lol but you know what i mean.

 

[Dogs 13]

My parents said the same thing to me about my music. I thought their music was crap and they thought mine was unintelligble and too loud. Now we all recognise that each had their merits.

It's all very well to say play your music around them and they'll pick up what they like out of that. It was easier in the "old" days. Familys would only have one stereo so everyone listened to the music that was played. Now every kid has their own Walkman, tv and stereo in their room, etc so they are less influenced by our taste and classics.

However, the real problem now is the businesses who have no other aim than making as much money out of an act as quickly as possible before they are yesterday's news.

How anyone can influence people (and not just kids) to buy and listen to the Australian Idol fodder, buy an Amity Dry cd, Popstars, Bardots, Scandlous (or whatever they were called) is a marketing genius and great business man. It's got nothing to do with the music.

 

[Stealth bomber]

I think the eclectic musical tastes that I have are mainly the result of just simply being exposed to variety. From the time I was old enough to walk I was hearing jazz and late 70s funk and jazz fusion and hard rock and new wave and even some classical and country.

I find it kinda funny that at the age of 26, approximately 80-90% of my CD collection is between 20-30 years old.

I think that is in part because a lot of that music is to me, timeless, and I have a fondness for many of the analogue sounds of the time, but at the same time I feel a sense of nostalgia around it, which is weird considering I'm really not that old. But I tend to have very clear memories of early childhood, probably clearer than most people, and I suppose part of the reason why might be because I was exposed to so much of that music when I was very young, and I have associated it with certain places or events. For the most part my early childhood was very happy, so it would be a positive thing.

In those days the radio happened to be worth listening to, and early MTV was actually very much worth watching. So that's already one major difference. I think radio now is a terribly limited and constricted format and I think that music video today is an art form which has become entirely image conscious and is almost completely void of substance.

I used to watch MTV for hours at a time when I was about five or six years old, when it was still brand new. I hardly watched it at all when I was in my teens, which is the age that most people are supposed to be watching it.

 

[brentoncowell]

I dont have kids myself, but i have younger sisters and my mates have kids, i just think the music all these younger people around me are listening to is insulting their intelligence, and that of their parents. My main grievance is with the airplay these so called musicians get over local acts, i.e carlos's band. Immature and easily minipilated minds of children, of course are going to be drawn to artists such as spears and the likes, they wish to emulate an image which is percieved as cool. I love the fact that some of my music isnt widely accepted, i love the fact that everyone has a choice, but the idustry is brain washing innocent kids to raise revenue.

 

[bucksisbest]

BrentonCowell I wouldn't lump Spears with all of the music "kids" listen too she's just a ****** who mimes and her core audience is people under 12 and camp gay men , hardly reflective.
There is some crap but there are plenty of artists who you may take a look at once and make a judgement but if you took the time out you'd realise some of them aren't as bad as you think- in some cases very good and in rarer cases brilliant.
An appreciation for different genre's of music helps.

 

[brentoncowell]

I like Delta, she is talented, she has a great voice. But how much talent does sean paul have???

 

[lioness]

Originally posted by Stealth bomber

I find it kinda funny that at the age of 26, approximately 80-90% of my CD collection is between 20-30 years old.

Same with mine. I have about 100 or so CDs, and there's a pretty wide range of music there, but most of it is 20-40 years old. Eventually I'll get around to posting my list in the CD collection thread.

My sister is 28 and she has music from Sinatra to Silverchair, and a bit of everything in between, an amazing collection.

 

[Spidergirl~RiCkChiCk]

Simple...teenyboppers are more and more spoilt. They are the ones buying it! I don't see what the problem is because they haven't stopped selling any of the old stuff people like. It's more of a problem when one of the good bands you know who i'm talking about (Metallica and Offspring fans) start producing rubbish for the charts!