Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

[Viva la Mattner]

Great choice to pull our interest at that

 

[WaynesWorld19]

We clearly saw that midfield couldn’t stand up in finals, who’s to say that’ll be much different in the coming years. Draper didn’t exactly light the world on fire, and we just can’t rely on guys beyond pick 20 becoming stars

We are kinda desperate for midfield star power

Depends on whether your nature is a pessimist or optimist

You're correct, our midfield didn't stand-up .....the pessimist says they're all dud players ....the optimist says, change some of the parts with players already on the list ....plus the Finals experience will benefit them

The pessimist says, Finals experience means nothing .....the optimist says, history says you need to have experienced Finals pressure to learn

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I called it the other day.

He was always going to try and get a better deal.

Which is fine and what he should be doing. Sucked in to whoever agrees to pay him big coin until he's 35.

 

[pjcrows]

Depends on whether your nature is a pessimist or optimist

You're correct, our midfield didn't stand-up .....the pessimist says they're all dud players ....the optimist says, change some of the parts with players already on the list ....plus the Finals experience will benefit them

The pessimist says, Finals experience means nothing .....the optimist says, history says you need to have experienced Finals pressure to learn

Or realist.

Our midfield is nowhere near it, and we need to change it to improve it.

I see your strategy is "organic growth"?

Bring on another middling season while the sides around us improve their midfields.

 

[Betts are off]

I love the smell of context in the morning!

 

[Eddie Murphy]

Oliver is only a year younger than Petracca, and at least Petracca played decent footy this season.
Only postive thing about Oliver is he is cheaper contract wise now.

Oliver would cost less than half of Petracca in terms of salary and trade capital. They’re both risks because of their age profile but I’d rather go for the lower risk.

 

[Viva la Mattner]

JFC no wonder we walked away, he's very good when fit and firing but that's ridiculous given the bounty we would have had to give up trade wise
5 years for a 30 year old on top dollars what could possibly go wrong

That is Dan Hannerbry esque

 

[AC07]

I'm sure Zac's mum would love to see Zac come home. Surely Brisbane would make it work? Would it be in their best interest to make it work now? https://7news.com.au/sport/afl/bris...er-mother-has-serious-health-scare-c-19406833

 

[Mutineer]

We clearly saw that midfield couldn’t stand up in finals, who’s to say that’ll be much different in the coming years. Draper didn’t exactly light the world on fire, and we just can’t rely on guys beyond pick 20 becoming stars

We are kinda desperate for midfield star power

Maybe, just maybe the list management, coaches and selectors might even give Edwards a try in the role Hamish and his crew said they picked him for i.e. mid/forward. I will totally lose it if he is seen training with the defenders this pre-season.

 

[Floating Doughnut]

Yes I agree ...if a Club smells a bargain, they'll try & make it work

But, as you well know ...even this year, many were still & are, questioning how the Darcy / Jackson pairing would work at FREO ....that was a bargain / opportunity buy by FREO ...that still has many ????

It would have to be Clarry knocking it back, GWS surely think it will work or they wouldn’t be perusing him I guess.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Or realist.

Our midfield is nowhere near it, and we need to change it to improve it.

I see your strategy is "organic growth"?

Bring in another middling season.

Partly .....but I'm hopeful Taylor, Curtin, Draper, can take another step next season & play Midfield ....can Rachelle play more midfield with Rankine?

Is that being realistic ....IMO that's not a huge stretch

My POV, is we desperately need a QUICK small fwd ...that has to be a priority ...a Betts, Darcy Jones, Pickett type player

 

[Viva la Mattner]

If Viva la Mattner ‘s source is correct about our interest in Oliver, have we screwed the pooch by not committing to him sooner ?

Had him on a platter with zero competition to know pricking the ears of others

Still think we would be near or at front of the queue though

 

[daniel_4tw]

Asking for more money on his already bloated salary? Yikes.

Probably the right call by the club, I just wish it played out behind closed doors and not in the media with visits etc.

We should be taking that 1.2 million and giving it to an up and coming star midfielder.

 

[Mutineer]

Partly .....but I'm hopeful Taylor, Curtin, Draper, can take another step next season & play Midfield ....can Rachelle play more midfield with Rankine?

Is that being realistic ....IMO that's not a huge stretch

My POV, is we desperately need a QUICK small fwd ...that has to be a priority ...a Betts, Darcy Jones, Pickett type player

I know of one such small forward available in this draft though he's more Pickett than the other two.

 

[bigman]

Just doing some light research.

Collins - on about 750k

Rioli - about 800k

Miller - about 850k

Anderson - about 1 million

King - about 1 million

Rowell - about 1.2 million

Petracca - about 1.2 million

Obviously deals can be front/back ended, but basically the Suns will have four (!) million dollar players on their list next year.

Edit: Forgot Mac Andrew lol. Which is about 1.3 million. So that makes five million dollar players.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Happy to walk back my claims that we only walked away from the deal after Petracca chose Gold Coast if he joins Gold Coast on a 5 year deal

We won't know why or what.
He may have been trying to see if we would go up to then come to us or maybe to take that offer to GC to get them to up their deal.

We said no, he can't twist GC'S arm either.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Bit surprised if living on the Gold Coast and getting to play for a multi premiership winning coach doesn't get them a discount.

 

[pjcrows]

Partly .....but I'm hopeful Taylor, Curtin, Draper, can take another step next season & play Midfield ....can Rachelle play more midfield with Rankine?

Is that being realistic ....IMO that's not a huge stretch

My POV, is we desperately need a QUICK small fwd ...that has to be a priority ...a Betts, Darcy Jones, Pickett type player

You watched this year's finals and your conclusion is we need a quick small forward?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Obviously led by Mrs Eddie Betts ....hell haveth no fury ...

Confused our desperation with Dumbness

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You watched this year's finals and your conclusion is we need a quick small forward?

Absolutely !!!

It's all about the flow-on affects on team dynamics .....

 

[ABAB]

Offer the NWM money to Humphrey. About to explode, this kid.

And if he doesn't, we will be even more stuffed then Melbourne's current salary cap management.

 

[pjcrows]

Absolutely !!!

It's all about the flow-on affects on team dynamics .....

We already have two excellent small forwards. They just didn't play finals.

We. Need. Mids.

 

[Golumless]

‘Organic growth’ hasn’t ended in a premiership for us this century, yet

However, we're not entirely reliant on 'organic growth', seeing the acquisition of Ah Chee. As much as I have doubts on how effective this move will be (seeing how similar ANB/Keays are, and it could easily end up a case of "too much of a good thing"), it's a player with history of being someone who stands up in the big moments.

The thing with the biggest need is it should be relatively easy to fix, seeing it's just finding someone that can be that big clearance winner to build around. A preseason could easily do it, looking at players like Soligo or Curtin, or it could be done cheaply noting how pure extractors have fallen out of favour.

 

[feenix67]

Just doing some light research.

Collins - on about 750k

Rioli - about 800k

Miller - about 850k

Anderson - about 1 million

King - about 1 million

Rowell - about 1.2 million

Petracca - about 1.2 million

Obviously deals can be front/back ended, but basically the Suns will have four (!) million dollar players on their list next year.

Edit: Forgot Mac Andrew lol. Which is about 1.3 million. So that makes five million dollar players.

He wouldve already been getting a payrise just moving here on comparative cost of living (although that gap is reducing).

 

[Mutineer]

You watched this year's finals and your conclusion is we need a quick small forward?

We absolutely do if Rachele and Rankine are to spend more minutes in the midfield, especially one that applies defensive pressure on steroids with us seemingly likely to play Tex forward every game.