Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025 - Part 2

[1990crow]

Lets not start comparing lists

 

[Cromulant]

QLD has had circa 10x the interstate migration compared to SA in recent decades.

Why is that?

No idea personally.

People like humidity I guess.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

It was mentioned on one of the AFL panel shows (I think it might have been Matthew Lloyd who said it) that Justin Reid tries to win every trade scenario and list managers find him difficult to trade with.

If I knew exactly when it was said I would try and find it, it definitely could be bullshit though.

How would Lloyd have any idea .....he's a College Football Coach, outside of the AFL .....so it's 3rd hand info

Haven't we won more trade negotiations than lost, in the last 3 years ......now, it may have been true in the past, but in any job, you get better with experience

I seem to remember Reid being quite intense & gruff in the past .....he seems so much more relaxed & jovial these days ....shows he's in control & confident

 

[1990crow]

They're all idiots

Queenslander!

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Not yet a slam dunk trade ....

SEN’s Sam Edmund had reported Humphrey’s management reached out to more than one rival club in recent days to sound out possible moves, adding it’d become “increasingly clear the player has an appetite to leave Gold Coast in this trade period”.

So, while both Humphrey’s management and the club have since reiterated he isn’t for trade, it seemingly won’t stop the Dees from pushing for his inclusion in a Petracca deal.

So how could a trade get done before the end of the exchange period?

If the Demons are in fact set on Humphrey as their prize — and if it ultimately winds up that he does want to leave — the Dees would likely need to add in a sweetener draft pick on top of Petracca, due to 21-year-old Humphrey’s long-term upside.

“A player as valuable for your future as Bailey Humphrey … you view that, in this day and age, he could play another 12 years. Petracca could give you three, maybe four years,” began five-time premiership star Dermott Brereton to foxfooty.com.au.

 

[Cromulant]

How would Lloyd have any idea .....he's a College Football Coach, outside of the AFL .....so it's 3rd hand info

Haven't we won more trade negotiations than lost, in the last 3 years ......now, it may have been true in the past, but in any job, you get better with experience

I seem to remember Reid being quite intense & gruff in the past .....he seems so much more relaxed & jovial these days ....shows he's in control & confident

His brother was a footy manager of a club, he'd know.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

His brother was a footy manager of a club, he'd know.

And when was the last set of negotiations have we held with FREO .....and why did COLL attempt to poach Reid as a Footy Manager

 

[feenix67]

His brother was a footy manager of a club, he'd know.

Whats the problem anyway? Don't we want a negotiator who tries to win every trade scenario and list managers find him difficult to trade with?

 

[Cromulant]

Whats the problem anyway? Don't we want a negotiator who tries to win every trade scenario and list managers find him difficult to trade with?

Well yes, but you still need a little bit of nuance I would have thought. I dont mind JR to beat honest.

 

[dogs105]

Roberts > JHF



in u-16s

 

[relapse]

Surely that’s his job, they all do it. The David Noble approach is the outlier.

They all would to a degree, but obviously with trades it obviously takes someone to lose a trade in order for someone else to win one.

It was brought in a discussion about Jordan Dawson and how Sydney were unhappy with the trade. They said something along the lines that Sydney felt that Adelaide was unwilling to negotiate from their starting offer and had no real choice other than to accept it.

That was when (the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it was Matthew Lloyd) it was brought up that Justin Reid has a reputation for needing to win every trade and opposition list managers find him one of the hardest to deal with.

Personally I haven't seen anything that suggests that we're difficult to deal with so I remember being surprised about what was being said.

Maybe it is bullshit, who knows?

 

[thebirdman 24]

Disappointed about Petracca but not alarmed.

I know it is easy to say now, but we really don’t need a hybrid midfielder like him, we need a pure inside ball winner like Oliver.

Rankine, Rachele, Dawson are all your hybrid midfielders that can rotate in there but can play other roles. They all have some limitations in the middle as well.

I don’t think we get Oliver but we desperately need someone like him who plays middle all game.

 

[feenix67]

They all would to a degree, but obviously with trades it obviously takes someone to lose a trade in order for someone else to win one.

It was brought in a discussion about Jordan Dawson and how Sydney were unhappy with the trade. They said something along the lines that Sydney felt that Adelaide was unwilling to negotiate from their starting offer and had no real choice other than to accept it.

That was when (the more I think about it, the more I am convinced that it was Matthew Lloyd) it was brought up that Justin Reid has a reputation for needing to win every trade and opposition list managers find him one of the hardest to deal with.

Personally I haven't seen anything that suggests that we're difficult to deal with so I remember being surprised about what was being said.

Maybe it is bullshit, who knows?

A good negotiator knows his position and what his leverage is. Sydney had no leverage in that trade. I'd suggest JR could have done a bit better in the Rankine trade based on his output to that point, although in retrospect it was a win/win as Ranks has improved and Humphrey is a gun.

 

[Frothiewalker]

Don’t post here hardly ever but wondering what’s everyone’s thoughts on Tommy Powell ? I rated him a few years back but haven’t watched him much over 25.

 

[Coopers]

Now with Petracca out, Oliver is probably worth looking at ONLY if we can minimise risk as far as possible contractually. We tried to with Stengle and he didn’t accept our contract offer with certain provisions.

The problem is "don't be a ****wit" and "you have to like, actually try this time" are subjective and therefore problematic to put in a contract

 

[Golumless]

thinking out loud here...
If Curnow hasn't sorted out a club would if be worth having a look?
doesn't fix our midfield issue, but Filthy in the ruck would be a better option than ROB.

Yeah, no.

The only timeline where TT as a ruck is worth having a look is if Thilthorpe - for whatever reason - regresses badly as a key forward. It is definitely not worth it to spend a shit tonne of draft capital to waste one of your best players in a role that has repeatedly shown that having a star player there is detrimental the moment you are paying them star money (as we already would be with TT).

 

[MrBarry]

Where we are at in our window right now I would’ve given him a 5th year I don’t care. If we could snag one flag in the next 5 years rather than be there abouts but not make it I’ll take that any day of the week.

A 5th year takes him to 2030. Curtin, soligo, Rachele and RT all come out of contract at the end of 2029. Having 1.3 million stuck with Tracca that cannot be used on them would have been a disaster

 

[relapse]

How would Lloyd have any idea .....he's a College Football Coach, outside of the AFL .....so it's 3rd hand info

Haven't we won more trade negotiations than lost, in the last 3 years ......now, it may have been true in the past, but in any job, you get better with experience

I seem to remember Reid being quite intense & gruff in the past .....he seems so much more relaxed & jovial these days ....shows he's in control & confident

As someone has already said, his brother, Brad Lloyd, was list manager at Freo and then Footy Ops Manager at Carlton.

I'd say that his sources are most probably as good, if not better, than others with that kind of stuff.

 

[bettingonbetts]

Don’t post here hardly ever but wondering what’s everyone’s thoughts on Tommy Powell ? I rated him a few years back but haven’t watched him much over 25.

Been no whispers but SA boy I hope they look at if we can’t poach Oliver

 

[Frothiewalker]

Been no whispers but SA boy I hope they look at if we can’t poach Oliver

Like I said I haven’t watched much north last year. One of my mates is a huge north fan and rates him, reckons he’s been pushed out their midfield this year.

 

[Huntercrow]

QLD has had circa 10x the interstate migration compared to SA in recent decades.

Why is that?

Cheap smokes?
Is that still a thing?

 

[MRB37]

It was mentioned on one of the AFL panel shows (I think it might have been Matthew Lloyd who said it) that Justin Reid tries to win every trade scenario and list managers find him difficult to trade with.

If I knew exactly when it was said I would try and find it, it definitely could be bullshit though.

And prior to that we had a guy who would take unders/pay overs to keep others happy. I know which one i'd prefer.

 

[Mutineer]

It was mentioned on one of the AFL panel shows (I think it might have been Matthew Lloyd who said it) that Justin Reid tries to win every trade scenario and list managers find him difficult to trade with.

If I knew exactly when it was said I would try and find it, it definitely could be bullshit though.

HTF would Matthew Lloyd know, he doesn't move in those circles?

 

[119others]

How would Lloyd have any idea .....he's a College Football Coach, outside of the AFL .....so it's 3rd hand info

Haven't we won more trade negotiations than lost, in the last 3 years ......now, it may have been true in the past, but in any job, you get better with experience

I seem to remember Reid being quite intense & gruff in the past .....he seems so much more relaxed & jovial these days ....shows he's in control & confident

What you say is 100% correct. Smart operators learn fast. Reidy would admit to his first few years being a learning curve and making some mistakes. His last 4-5 years though are as good as anyones. Incoming and retention.

The fact the biggest club in the land was trying to poach him a year tells you how he is going.

 

[JPetro83]

Forget Oliver.. GWS has him stitched up. Jack Steele

9

Jack Steele

Age

29

Ht

187cm

Wt

90kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

20.9

5star

K

8.7

3star

HB

12.2

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

6.8

5star

CL

3.6

5star

D

21.3

5star

K

10.0

4star

HB

11.3

5star

M

4.0

4star

T

5.8

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

16.8

4star

K

5.0

2star

HB

11.8

5star

M

2.6

3star

T

6.4

5star

CL

3.6

5star

? just read on twitter the Crows and West Coast looking at him..