Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025

[Scorpus]

Rumour Summary October 1st

• Adelaide expects a decision from Christian Petracca
  3

  Christian Petracca

  Age

  30

  Ht

  187cm

  Wt

  94kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  19.4

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  9.8

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  CL

  2.5

  4star

  D

  24.4

  5star

  K

  10.4

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.5

  3star

  T

  3.6

  4star

  CL

  3.4

  4star

  D

  19.0

  5star

  K

  7.8

  3star

  HB

  11.2

  5star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  CL

  2.0

  4star

  by Saturday, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca's decision between Adelaide and Gold Coast is a 50/50, according to Tom Morris (link)
• Taylor Walker will sign a one-year contract extension, according to Josh Money (link)
• Adelaide have been working on the Petracca trade for months, compared to Gold Coast who have joined the race more recently, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca is meeting with Gold Coast in person (link)

Rumour Summary October 2nd

• Melbourne are open to trading Clayton Oliver
  10

  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  28

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  , according to Sam Edmund (link)
• Clayton Oliver expects to be told to explore his trade options, according to Tom Morris (link)

 

[daniel_4tw]

We'll get to Tippett soon enough to complete the trifecta

Talking about accepting over the top punishments from the AFL…

Kidding. Please no.

 

[ams4crows]

We'll get to Tippett soon enough to complete the trifecta

Followed by the sauce debate to lighten the mood

 

[Smart Fella]

Calling people of colour apes has been used to justify murder, turture and slavery. Look up King Leopold and what his regime was up to.

Ape has never been used to justify the murder of white people.

So you think education is key and not calling people racist is the way to go? I agree.

But what adds to the confusion is you say people of colour like people are supposed to know your genetic background. For example, I'm a racist if I called Scott Boland or Jason Gillespie an ape years ago.

Is silverback okay? If Dunstall tells us he is indigenous, does that make us racist?

 

[daniel_4tw]

Any idea when AFL will make their announcement? Seems like an awfully long time considering media handed out their punishment Sunday.

 

[StonesThrow]

If the metric is attitudes towards casual racism, unquestionably.

I think it's starting to go the opposite way now.

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Any idea when AFL will make their announcement? Seems like an awfully long time considering media handed out their punishment Sunday.

I was thinking the same thing. I reckon we’re in deep negotiations about punishment or some fixed alternatives. I just hope Balme and Olsen can sway their decisions. Losing finals games competing for a flag is not the same as regular home and away games. If this happened early or mid year we might’ve taken the L and moved on.

Just to add people in the AFL such as McGuire, Lloyd, Hardwick and Matthew’s have come out and pretty much saying the term people are suggesting isn’t justified

 

[feenix67]

He did. He did exactly what you're asking for.

There isn't a history of white Europeans being dehumanised by being referred to as apes, so that part is irrelevant.

So there are levels of vilification now? An Italian being called a dago or a Greek being called a wog back in the day doesn't rank.

And PS look how they handled it.

 

[cmndstab]

So there are levels of vilification now? An Italian being called a dago or a Greek being called a wog back in the day doesn't rank.

And PS look how they handled it.

All vilification is bad, but that doesn't mean it's all equal. Some causes more harm than others.

Calling a person of white European descent an ape is not vilification because there is no history of white Europeans being dehumanised in that manner.

There are still people out there who believe indigenous Australians come from a different evolutionary lineage than Europeans. That they are less human than people of European descent. This is the context that makes calling an indigenous person an ape so dehumanising.

 

[feenix67]

All vilification is bad, but that doesn't mean it's all equal. Some causes more harm than others.

Calling a person of white European descent an ape is not vilification because there is no history of white Europeans being dehumanised in that manner.

There are still people out there who believe indigenous Australians come from a different evolutionary lineage than Europeans. That they are less human than people of European descent. This is the context that makes calling an indigenous person an ape so dehumanising.

Ok, you need to educate yourself. But hey, maybe that's just Gen X me talking. My lived experience counts for nothing right?

 

[CromradeCromulent]

Ok, you need to educate yourself. But hey, maybe that's just Gen X me talking. My lived experience counts for nothing right?

But only your lived experiences though, right? People whose lived experiences have led them to different conclusions? Those don't count.

 

[Betts are off]

Any idea when AFL will make their announcement? Seems like an awfully long time considering media handed out their punishment Sunday.

The longer it goes the more I believe leniency might be on the Cards. However I am also a lifelong Crows fan, so leniency is a exceptionally foreign concept to get my head around.

 

[jenny61_99]

it does take a special kind of disintelligence to present PC as a good thing. the clue is in the name.

Very different to behaving with repsect, kindness and empathy because it is the right thing to do.

If basic decency feels like “political correctness” to you, maybe the problem isn’t the culture - it’s your behaviour.

“Political correctness” is just what some people call it when they’re asked to stop being jerks in public.

 

[BRL121]

If basic decency feels like “political correctness” to you, maybe the problem isn’t the culture—it’s your behaviour.

“Political correctness” is just what some people call it when they’re asked to stop being jerks in public.

I don't think you understood his post.

 

[FR0GGY]

All vilification is bad, but that doesn't mean it's all equal. Some causes more harm than others.

Calling a person of white European descent an ape is not vilification because there is no history of white Europeans being dehumanised in that manner.

Didn’t Rankine call Nick a Fa***t and he’s not?

 

[jenny61_99]

I don't think you understood his post.

I don’t think you understood mine…

 

[cmndstab]

Didn’t Rankine call Nick a Fa***t and he’s not?

"Ape" is not a slur. It only becomes offensive in a certain context.

The same is not true of what Rankine said.

 

[FR0GGY]

"Ape" is not a slur. It only becomes offensive in a certain context.

The same is not true of what Rankine said.

Of course it is when said to a human.

 

[beartoo]

Rankin was talking about a piece of wood. Now there's a defence

 

[cmndstab]

Of course it is when said to a human.

If it is said in order to dehumanise someone, sure.

In a vacuum, if someone called me an ape I would assume they were referring to me being big, solid and kind of dense, unless they added additional context to make me think they were trying to dehumanise me.

But a person from an ethnic group which has been historically compared to monkeys in order to dehumanise them? Different story.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

He's also not very smart and doesn't exactly have a great way with words.We sent out Fog and Tex this week. Not great from the club and could have gone badly.
ANB would have been good.

He spoke very well today, actually listen to it before judging. Fog also handled his presser yesterday as well as anyone could.

 

[BRL121]

Prior to the last match, I hapopened to have a look at the match-day thread on the Collingwood Board.
It was largely polite, but there was a consistent theme that we are regarded as "whingers".

Well, after this match, I think they've won the whinging championship, and extended to the dobbing championship.

 

[Thrillthorpe7]

Yeah, and I appreciate it. Tex always wears his heart on his sleeve.

But Fogarty and Dawson showed the correct way to handle questions like this. Basically just say "I'm not going to get into that" to everything.

I thought Tex handled the interview very well and it gave a bit more insight into Rankine's mental state too, which I think is important for people to understand.

 

[GameofSloanes]

I thought Tex handled the interview very well and it gave a bit more insight into Rankine's mental state too, which I think is important for people to understand.

And might be part of why it's taking so long.
Cant remember who it was, but someone in the media said Rankine 'wouldn't be able to live with himself'. If that's a possible outcome then this needs to be treated very carefully

 

[Crowtel]

I guess bear is off the table as a word we can use. Best tell the commentators when referring to a big forward or defender

 

[Cromulant]

And might be part of why it's taking so long.
Cant remember who it was, but someone in the media said Rankine 'wouldn't be able to live with himself'. If that's a possible outcome then this needs to be treated very carefully

Lloyd