Rumour Speculation, Rumours, Lies Thread 2025

[Scorpus]

Rumour Summary October 1st

• Adelaide expects a decision from Christian Petracca
  3

  Christian Petracca

  Age

  30

  Ht

  187cm

  Wt

  94kg

  Pos.

  M/F

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  19.4

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  9.8

  5star

  M

  3.5

  4star

  T

  3.0

  5star

  CL

  2.5

  4star

  D

  24.4

  5star

  K

  10.4

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.5

  3star

  T

  3.6

  4star

  CL

  3.4

  4star

  D

  19.0

  5star

  K

  7.8

  3star

  HB

  11.2

  5star

  M

  3.0

  3star

  T

  3.8

  5star

  CL

  2.0

  4star

  by Saturday, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca's decision between Adelaide and Gold Coast is a 50/50, according to Tom Morris (link)
• Taylor Walker will sign a one-year contract extension, according to Josh Money (link)
• Adelaide have been working on the Petracca trade for months, compared to Gold Coast who have joined the race more recently, according to a poster (link)
• Christian Petracca is meeting with Gold Coast in person (link)

Rumour Summary October 2nd

• Melbourne are open to trading Clayton Oliver
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  Clayton Oliver

  Age

  28

  Ht

  189cm

  Wt

  88kg

  Pos.

  Mid

  Career

  Season

  Last 5

  D

  27.8

  5star

  K

  9.5

  4star

  HB

  18.4

  5star

  M

  3.2

  3star

  T

  6.3

  5star

  CL

  6.3

  5star

  D

  25.1

  5star

  K

  11.1

  4star

  HB

  14.0

  5star

  M

  3.6

  4star

  T

  5.6

  5star

  CL

  5.9

  5star

  D

  19.2

  5star

  K

  4.6

  2star

  HB

  14.6

  5star

  M

  2.0

  3star

  T

  4.4

  5star

  CL

  3.8

  5star

  , according to Sam Edmund (link)
• Clayton Oliver expects to be told to explore his trade options, according to Tom Morris (link)

 

[ams4crows]

Sorry to bother this heated trip down memory lane, but is there any fresh news on Rankine?

Tex said some stuff on triple M this morning the new up to date foxfooty article is in the Rankine thread

 

[Cromulant]

Tex came out on Triple M and said there was so maybe using it to try argue it down? I doubt it will get us anywhere though

Depends what it was.

The AFL would want to know just in case it violates any of their other guidelines.

 

[Cromulant]

Bless Tex for trying, but somehow he feels like the wrong person to be delivering this message considering he is the most recent Crows player to be suspended for using slurs.

He did also say he didnt agree with what Izak said and, like Tex himself, will have to cop whatever comes his way.

 

[feenix67]

Its flawed thinking. He educated the girl, and suggested the root cause was societies norms.
The attitude displayed here proves Adam was right, society is the problem and until that changes vilification will continue.

I was genuinely asking. It seems to me like Goodes conducted himself with exceptional care, and yet you're acting like he directed a lynch mob at her. I honestly couldn't see what more you wanted him to do, other than not say anything at all.

Having now read your later posts, I see that what you wanted was for him to spend his time visiting her to educate her, which (a) is completely unreasonable to ask of him, and (b) wouldn't achieve much since she clearly already understood by that point that her actions are wrong.

This one girl wasn't the problem - the broader attitudes of society towards casual racism were. And Goodes DID address that, head on.

I never thought you were this dumb, but here we are.

Such a high profile case of vilification and committed by a member of the next generation. What a perfect opportunity to bring culture and the next wave of adults together.

She apologised to him in a phone call and he has not spoken to her since. As a leader for his people, what an opportunity wasted. How helpful would it have been for him to start up a program or foundation jointly with her, to engage the community. It would have been so positive.

Instead he took the book, the award, the public sympathy. Facilitated by sheeple like you. Tell me, has your approach fixed anything? The answer is no.

 

[Slippery Pete]

And yet he didn't engage with her at all. He said "we've got to help educate society" but doesn't include himself. He had a golden opportunity to do something so constructive for his people, yet chose to play victim, do the media, write the book, get the award. I have absolutely no respect for the man.

The sad part about it is he’s actually a very nice man, and was almost universally respected prior to all that. But boy didn’t he go down the race-hustling rabbit hole at the very end of his career.

 

[cmndstab]

Instead he took the book, the award, the public sympathy. Facilitated by sheeple like you. Tell me, has your approach fixed anything? The answer is no.

We're demonstrably doing better as a society since those times, in large part due to the stances of people like Goodes. We obviously have a long way to go, but you don't get there all at once.

The idea that you have "lost all respect for the man" because he didn't take the specific public actions you wanted - which may have been something the 13 year old absolutely didn't want to do - says more about you than it does about him.

 

[feenix67]

The sad part about it is he’s actually a very nice man, and was almost universally respected prior to all that. But boy didn’t he go down the race-hustling rabbit hole at the very end of his career.

I would say he got swept up in the current virtue signalling propaganda and didn't stop and think about it himself.

Imagine a day as big as the Big Freeze, fronted by Adam and this now adult kid. How powerful would that have been.

 

[Slippery Pete]

We're demonstrably doing better as a society since those times

Really?

 

[cmndstab]

Really?

If the metric is attitudes towards casual racism, unquestionably.

 

[Betts are off]

Tex said some stuff on triple M this morning the new up to date foxfooty article is in the Rankine thread

Thanks, I'll check it out

 

[Owen_AFC97]

How long until the cowards at AFL house announce the suspension

 

[Slippery Pete]

If the metric is attitudes towards casual racism, unquestionably.

I don’t think you can know what people’s attitudes are. What you can say is that people are scared stiff to utter certain words, so there’s that.

But in terms of changing their perceptions, it’s clearly worse now. There is more division and resentment than ever.

And it’s because of shit like this.

 

[bootrossbootross]

No, it’s about you labelling those of us who see continuing issues as PC as if that is a bad thing.

it does take a special kind of disintelligence to present PC as a good thing. the clue is in the name.

Very different to behaving with repsect, kindness and empathy because it is the right thing to do.

 

[Smart Fella]

What should he have done? Ask the umpires the pause the game and speak with her there on the field?

He rightly pointed out the person who was hurling racial abuse at him (just the latest such attack in a regular stream of them) and then got on with the match. Afterwards he spoke with the girl and accepted her apology. Then he made several media statements where he specifically said that the he didn't blame the girl, that she should receive the same support he has, and how nobody should go after her for it. He made the point that when kids grow up in a society that uses that kind of language, they have no way of understanding the harm that it causes, and said that we should educate society better so that kids don't grow up in that kind of environment.

What could he have possibly done better? Or is this just a thing where your preferred action was for him to just accept the racial abuse and say nothing?

What could he have done? He could have taken the high road and used his status as a platform after the incident to educate.

I was in my mid twenties at the time and I sure as hell didn't know it was a racist term but at the same time, I'd never called an indigenous person that.

Imagine teaching kids that you can't call an indigenous person an ape but someone of European descent is okay, no wonder kids are confused.

 

[Mattrox]

I would say he got swept up in the current virtue signalling propaganda and didn't stop and think about it himself.

Imagine a day as big as the Big Freeze, fronted by Adam and this now adult kid. How powerful would that have been.

Standing up against racial abuse is not virtue signalling.

 

[Mattrox]

What could he have done? He could have taken the high road and used his status as a platform after the incident to educate.

I was in my mid twenties at the time and I sure as hell didn't know it was a racist term but at the same time, I'd never called an indigenous person that.

Imagine teaching kids that you can't call an indigenous person an ape but someone of European descent is okay, no wonder kids are confused.

Calling people of colour apes has been used to justify murder, turture and slavery. Look up King Leopold and what his regime was up to.

Ape has never been used to justify the murder of white people.

 

[jo172]

Going right from re-litigating the Danger trade to re-litigating Goodes booing.

Season isn't over and we're stuck in the deathloop of arguments that years ago were never going to change anyone's mind.

 

[Slippery Pete]

Going right from re-litigating the Danger trade to re-litigating Goodes booing.

Season isn't over and we're stuck in the deathloop of arguments that years ago were never going to change anyone's mind.

What are your thoughts on climate modelling?

 

[Crow till I die]

it does take a special kind of disintelligence to present PC as a good thing. the clue is in the name.

Very different to behaving with repsect, kindness and empathy because it is the right thing to do.

new speak for do gooders

 

[Crowtel]

Bless Tex for trying, but somehow he feels like the wrong person to be delivering this message considering he is the most recent Crows player to be suspended for using slurs.

It was on his usual Triple M radio spot and he answered a question

 

[Crowtel]

Going right from re-litigating the Danger trade to re-litigating Goodes booing.

Season isn't over and we're stuck in the deathloop of arguments that years ago were never going to change anyone's mind.

We'll get to Tippett soon enough to complete the trifecta

 

[DJ75]

Bless Tex for trying, but somehow he feels like the wrong person to be delivering this message considering he is the most recent Crows player to be suspended for using slurs.

He's also not very smart and doesn't exactly have a great way with words.We sent out Fog and Tex this week. Not great from the club and could have gone badly.
ANB would have been good.

 

[cmndstab]

What could he have done? He could have taken the high road and used his status as a platform after the incident to educate.

I was in my mid twenties at the time and I sure as hell didn't know it was a racist term but at the same time, I'd never called an indigenous person that.

Imagine teaching kids that you can't call an indigenous person an ape but someone of European descent is okay, no wonder kids are confused.

He did. He did exactly what you're asking for.

There isn't a history of white Europeans being dehumanised by being referred to as apes, so that part is irrelevant.

 

[cmndstab]

It was on his usual Triple M radio spot and he answered a question

Yeah, and I appreciate it. Tex always wears his heart on his sleeve.

But Fogarty and Dawson showed the correct way to handle questions like this. Basically just say "I'm not going to get into that" to everything.

 

[cmndstab]

I don’t think you can know what people’s attitudes are. What you can say is that people are scared stiff to utter certain words, so there’s that.

But in terms of changing their perceptions, it’s clearly worse now. There is more division and resentment than ever.

And it’s because of shit like this.

Okay. I disagree.