Spot-fixing allegations in SL and IND

[Wolfs]

http://www.espncricinfo.com/story/_...-made-one australia-test-ca-requests-evidence

https://www.cricket.com.au/news/al-...a-england-australia-indika-cricket/2018-05-26

The short version is that:
- Sri Lankan curators at Galle claim to fix the pitches for betting.
- These matches include IND v. SL, & AUS v. SL.
- ENG v. SL in 2018 was the next target
- Investigations suggest that at least two Australian cricketers were involved in Ranchi and three Englishmen fixed sessions in Chennai.
- The Ranchi test was the draw where Smarsh and Handscomb saw Australia to a draw, and the England game was the one where Nair scored 300.
- No Indian players have been implicated.

 

[Number37]

The 2 Australians are accused of batting slow to ensure that the score for the day was below that bet by the bookies. WOW.

 

[creamygoodness]

Any idea who the players are? Holy crap, this doesn't sound good at all...

 

[Retzlaff]

We’re going to need some Essendon style top-up players at this rate

 

[Wolfs]

A part of me thinks that these guys were saying shit to get the guy to bet.

But it could be any player from the Aussies or English if true. A session is booking terms over these is a block of overs like 6-10 overs. So it could be anyone in Australia except Warner, Lyon, Cummins or Hazlewood.

 

[lones37]

Its easy to work out by watching the doco, it was the batsmen who batted in session 2, on Day 1.

They had to score less than 100 for the session, and 2 runs or less in the last over of the session.

They achieved both. Only 3 players batted that session.

 

[Wolfs]

Putting it out there but if it is true, what if it was 2 separate batsmen that didn't bat together in different sessions (blocks of overs)

 

[Doodlesweaver]

Its easy to work out by watching the doco, it was the batsmen who batted in session 2, on Day 1.

They had to score less than 100 for the session, and 2 runs or less in the last over of the session.

They achieved both. Only 3 players batted that session.

Saying that the last over before a break will be a low score is hardly a big deal, though is it? Players want to survive till the break. It's that call that makes me think it's a set-up to get someone to bet.

 

[dtm06]

Saying that the last over before a break will be a low score is hardly a big deal, though is it? Players want to survive till the break. It's that call that makes me think it's a set-up to get someone to bet.

Yeah but when you look at who was at the crease then, you do think that getting under 2 runs in that over was far from a certainty.

Genuine question; if the match fixer only bribed 2 players, how could he be assured they’d be at the crease for the last over before tea?

 

[Kapow!!!]

Again there's not a lot there other than the word of The bookies who, lets face it, are probably are trying to entice someone to bet/big-note their operation to establish credibility.

Hard to have an opinion not based on rumour until there is something more concrete in terms of evidence so I wouldn't give too much credence to this just yet (unless you have a particular confirmation bias in which case this documentary is enough to kick blokes whilst they're down and cast them into the fiery pits of online morality hell). Having said that it's still quite concerning and is definitely a space to be watched

 

[dtm06]

Again there's not a lot there other than the word of The bookies who, lets face it, are probably are trying to entice someone to bet/big-note their operation to establish credibility.

Hard to have an opinion not based on rumour until there is something more concrete in terms of evidence so I wouldn't give too much credence to this just yet (unless you have a particular confirmation bias in which case this documentary is enough to kick blokes whilst they're down and cast them into the fiery pits of online morality hell). Having said that it's still quite concerning and is definitely a space to be watched

Agreed. I will just say though that Al Jazeera English (different to Al Jazeera Arabic) do have a decent record with investigations like this. The fact it’s coming from them does lend a certain credibility to the claims moreso than if it was coming from something like The Sun.

 

[Kapow!!!]

Agreed. I will just say though that Al Jazeera English (different to Al Jazeera Arabic) do have a decent record with investigations like this. The fact it’s coming from them does lend a certain credibility to the claims moreso than if it was coming from something like The Sun.

Agreed, That's why it should not be dismissed and should be followed up with a proper investigation from an outside body.

 

[Borisdog]

The sooner gambling is banned worldwide on team sports the better.

If nothing else it’ll stop a million gambling ads being rammed down my neck while I’m trying to watch sport.

 

[frankrizzo]

Hope it isn't true but honestly i have no idea if any of our lot have links with bookies, i remember there was a panic in the 90's about what was going in sharjah and how easily fixers could mix with players but now our players spend large amounts of time in the ipl and lets face it we have no idea if some of them have been groomed over the years by fixers.

The notion many have put across over the years is our lot being well paid is some rock solid layer of protection but i don't buy that, even well paid players are greedy for more and all have weak spots and these people are masters of finding the weak and the greedy.

As others have said all unedited footage they have should be handed to the ICC and the relevant boards right away and a full investigation should take place.

 

[DT_fanatic]

Saying that the last over before a break will be a low score is hardly a big deal, though is it? Players want to survive till the break. It's that call that makes me think it's a set-up to get someone to bet.

When they talk sessions they don't mean it in the cricket sense. They're referring to blocks of 6-10 overs.

 

[big_e]

Yeah but when you look at who was at the crease then, you do think that getting under 2 runs in that over was far from a certainty.

Genuine question; if the match fixer only bribed 2 players, how could he be assured they’d be at the crease for the last over before tea?

Particularly when the one who faced the last over of that session wasn't named in the side until that morning. He wouldn't have been a Big Show to be included...

Incidentally, our scores in the last few overs of the session where something like 4-4-1-4-8-4-2-4 before a maiden.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

When they talk sessions they don't mean it in the cricket sense. They're referring to blocks of 6-10 overs.

Ahh ok. I didn't realise that.

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

The sooner gambling is banned worldwide on team sports the better.

If nothing else it’ll stop a million gambling ads being rammed down my neck while I’m trying to watch sport.

Most of the problems (not all) tend to arise with countries where gambling is banned. The operators are already outside the law, often small parts of larger organised crime networks. It is no surprise they go an extra step, they have no incentive to keep their licence or anything.

Advertising I agree on. Treat gaming (and alcohol) like tobacco.

 

[The_Reaper]

How does a bookie make sure those two players are batting and won't get out?

 

[Adelaide Hawk]

Ever since India has owned the game, it's turned to shit.

 

[big_e]

How does a bookie make sure those two players are batting and won't get out?

It's not the bookies fixing, it's the gamblers.

But you've highlighted why this doesn't ring true for me. They would only fix things they can control, and fixing a session would probably require both sides' involvement. Fixing the last over of a session - before the session starts - would be nuts.

 

[Asapartyhat]

The ICC have said in the last few hours that they are taking this matter extremely seriosly and are going to investigate fully all the allegations and expect full cooperation from all the relevant cricketing governing bodies of the countrys concerned.
That and the fact that al Jazeera are a very reputable news organization that are not usually easily fooled or sensationalist makes me think two Australian players are not going to walk away from this easily.

 

[corbies]

Ever since India has owned the game, it's turned to shit.

Bring back the good ol' days when Lillee and Marsh could openly bet against their own side and not be sanctioned for it at all.

 

[Power Raid]

Very sad if true

Oh and life time bans to anyone match/ Spot fixing

 

[Cold Sober]

All sounds like bullshit to me.