St Kilda v Adelaide Matchday thread

[ruscy002]

Good comparisons there 3 of those blokes have been in the AFL system for about half the time Reilly has, one is a key forward, one a back/forward pocket and the other is one of our toughest and most reliable midfielders. Everybody has average games; Reilly has a lot of them.

Replied with that post before your spiel about him never standing up when he has to. Before that weak justification, it appeared that you were targeting a player for having a bad day, which at that stage is exactly what you were doing.

 

[apollo_creed]

The Saints were too good today boys.

 

[adelaide_girl]

meh........ those who saw it what happened in the knights report?

 

[TheLeftFist8]

If the Carlton dog got off and Knights goes for that it's time to form an alternative league or something because this is a joke...the umpires have absolutely no idea about a little thing called the game of football.

 

[Kennyrocks]

Knights gets pushed in the back, should have been a free kick to him, but a Saints free and he gets reported! Conclusive proof that the umps only watch one team! Laughable. Given that he plays for Adelaide and not for Carlton/Collingwood/Essendon he'll probably get weeks.

 

[Macca19]

meh........ those who saw it what happened in the knights report?

Milne got ran into with his head down by Knights, who was pushed into him. Given the ump probably didnt see the push it was definately a report, but it will also definately be thrown out in about 2 minutes.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Never? Harsh call given his consistency in 2005, 2006 & 2007 pre-injury but i am 100% confident that a full pre-season next year will see him averaging 20-25 touches next season

Those consistent years that saw him fail to finish in the top 10 in the B&F? The guy is massively overrated by many on this board. He has the tools to be a real quality AFL player, but he's a long way from there at the moment.

 

[PCORF]

Our worst perfomance in years today. But a huge congratulations to Robert Harvey, he was a legend and will be sorely missed.

But lets take some positives from our side.

After that 5th straight loss which left the team stranded at 8-8, you look back and nobody gave this team a chance at playing finals. But the team dug deep and got the 4 wins that were required.

But then today with so much to play for, a top 4 spot the team simply folded and couldn't handle the pressure which was helped by some poor umpiring at times. It was clearly pressure and we were doomed from the halfway mark of the first quarter. It was very sad watching this for me. But all teams have bad games, that's how it goes.

But we are going to be playing at least one final this year so its another big test for the team to see how they can handle it. Maybe a Final against a fierce Collingwood team and their crowd at the MCG will be the perfect test for this club and for some of its younger and up and coming players.

 

[Rave Slave]

That's one of the worst performances I've seen from the Crows in a long time.

The skill level today was atrocius. 3 and 4 grabs at the pill, couldn't hit a target to save ourselves (Truck in particular I'm looking at you) and handballing to a guy who's flat-footed and has 3 opponents around him.

Hard to find anyone who played a good game today. Massie/Macca/Bock/Shirley serviceable.

 

[jo172]

The Saints were too good today boys.

The Saints were harldy good.

If they were good they would have won by 100 points.

Our skills and composure were just atroucious.

I think that's the worst I've seen them since the infamous GABBA 2004 match!

 

[bus24]

I think that's the worst I've seen them since the infamous GABBA 2004 match!

The E-Girls game at Subiaco this year would be up there too.

 

[Smoooothy]

worst game we have played in months if not years

which really says something about the saints, since they only beat us by 7 goals

 

[Crowing Around]

Those consistent years that saw him fail to finish in the top 10 in the B&F? The guy is massively overrated by many on this board. He has the tools to be a real quality AFL player, but he's a long way from there at the moment.

And the B&F is the measuring stick of a player's year is it?
With the quality of the teams we had in those years, i'd say it means nothing.

I don't see how he is massively overrated but my main response was your call to cull on the back of a bad game, which is just bull

 

[Truck Rutten]

And the B&F is the measuring stick of a player's year is it?
With the quality of the teams we had in those years, i'd say it means nothing.

I don't see how he is massively overrated but my main response was your call to cull on the back of a bad game, which is just bull

Is that a trick question?

It's not on the back of one game at all. It's after 7 injury punctuated, inconsistent seasons.

 

[Crowing Around]

Is that a trick question?

It's not on the back of one game at all. It's after 7 injury punctuated, inconsistent seasons.

Why a trick question?
Again, consistent in 05, 06 & 07 and will be next year.

Anyway, i'm not the only one who picked up that it appeared you were referring to one game so that's evidence enough IMO

 

[footy4ever]

A lot of anger with the umpiring from most of us...and rightly so. Their blatant single mindedness of a St. Kilda and Robert Harvey victory was unbearable when the game was there to be won. It then turned to being ridiculous, farcical, and then an outright joke.

When all confidence and run had been STOLEN from the crows, the reverse happened to Saints.

Knights reported...HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Now sit back and wait for the 119's to start a thread about crow supporters whining about the umpires...yawn.

The sun will rise tomorrow. The crows will play finals, and sh!t posters can talk as much as they like about finishing middle of the road etc etc yadda yadda.

But seriously, is there a team apart from Collingwood that really wants to play Geelong in the first final? No benefit IMO to get belted by the best team in the comp and then limp into an elimination final. Would rather reach the same place by first winning a final.

 

[TheLeftFist8]

A lot of anger with the umpiring from most of us...and rightly so. Their blatant single mindedness of a St. Kilda and Robert Harvey victory was unbearable when the game was there to be won. It then turned to being ridiculous, farcical, and then an outright joke.

When all confidence and run had been STOLEN from the crows, the reverse happened to Saints.

Knights reported...HA ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Now sit back and wait for the 119's to start a thread about crow supporters whining about the umpires...yawn.

The sun will rise tomorrow. The crows will play finals, and sh!t posters can talk as much as they like about finishing middle of the road etc etc yadda yadda.

But seriously, is there a team apart from Collingwood that really wants to play Geelong in the first final? No benefit IMO to get belted by the best team in the comp and then limp into an elimination final. Would rather reach the same place by first winning a final.

It's about the home-ground advantage in the Semi's.

Look at the umpiring today and tell me the home ground doesn't make a difference.

 

[Rascally]

Milne got ran into with his head down by Knights, who was pushed into him. Given the ump probably didnt see the push it was definately a report, but it will also definately be thrown out in about 2 minutes.

Call me old fashion, but I always believed that if you pushed someone in the back.. it was a free kick... obviously that rule changed today; along with alot of others.

 

[Eastern Crow]

Our first ten minutes was excellent, we dominated possession and the stoppages, after that it was our worse performance for the year

IMO we just need to write this game off and plan for the future

Hopefully, Vinace and Proplyzia will be available next week and Tippett will be considered

Forward structure is my concern, we do not take enough marks in the forward 50m, today's delivery was very poor, however I do believe playing a resting ruckman up forward as a key forward will work at times, however we should not rely on this structure week in / week out

Stevens playing as a marking forward also concerns me, he continues to be pushed off the ball way too easily

selection next week will be very interesting, I would think Neil will want to pick his finals side against the Bullies

 

[footy4ever]

It's about the home-ground advantage in the Semi's.

Look at the umpiring today and tell me the home ground doesn't make a difference.

Yep. I see what you mean, but home ground advantage could be wasted after licking wounds both mental and physical, because lets face it, Crows would be punished against Cats if Crows were to finish 4th.. A 5th 6th finish does get us a home final. Granted if we win, the next one will be away, but probably at the G...with lots of room for crow supporters. (or do I have this all arse up?)

 

[Punchy Bassett]

It's about the home-ground advantage in the Semi's.

Look at the umpiring today and tell me the home ground doesn't make a difference.

It doesn't at Football Park where umpires have been instructed to 'not be influenced by a home crowd', that rule didn't apply today.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Why a trick question?
Again, consistent in 05, 06 & 07 and will be next year.

Anyway, i'm not the only one who picked up that it appeared you were referring to one game so that's evidence enough IMO

You don't think the B&F, decided by the coaching panel is a fair indicator of the type of season a player has had?

Great, you've picked out the 3 years that he managed to get himself out on the park more often than not. Well done. He still never finished top 10 in the B&F or averaged more than 19 touches a game in any of those years. So yes, he was consistent in those years; consistently good/average. Are we happy with him being a good/average player? I'm not.

Evidence of what??? My opinion is based on his career to date, not one game. How many times do I have to say it before you stop trying to tell me what it is that I'm thinking

I wouldn't flog him off for nothing, but I most certainly think it's time to put his name on the table and see what interest there is.

 

[Crowing Around]

You don't think the B&F, decided by the coaching panel is a fair indicator of the type of season a player has had?

Great, you've picked out the 3 years that he managed to get himself out on the park more often than not. Well done. He still never finished top 10 in the B&F or averaged more than 19 touches a game in any of those years. So yes, he was consistent in those years; consistently good/average. Are we happy with him being a good/average player? I'm not.

Evidence of what??? My opinion is based on his career to date, not one game. How many times do I have to say it before you stop trying to tell me what it is that I'm thinking

I wouldn't flog him off for nothing, but I most certainly think it's time to put his name on the table and see what interest there is.

Do you need to go back to year 3 and learn to read an entire post?

And that's where you're wrong - he wasn't a good/average player - far better than that. And durr i picked those years because that's a fair assessment of Reilly's ability and proof that he can be up there!

Again, read the posts - evidence that your intial post was an unfair assessment of the situation

Well thankfully the future of our players is not decided by you, but a competent coaching staff!
His value (despite your assessments of it not being important) goes way beyond his ability on the playing field and IMHO if it keeps Victorian players like Maric, Mackay, Douglas and in future Dangerfield in our team, that's more than enough reason to keep him.

 

[Truck Rutten]

Do you need to go back to year 3 and learn to read an entire post?

We're not a club that's chock full of superstars. He simply wasn't good enough to finish top 10 in the B&F in any of those years. This is a guy who's never averaged more than 19 touches per game over a season, and who only twice in his career has notched up a 30 disposal game. There's no denying he's got some high quality attributes and he's given glimpses of how good he could potentially be, but to date he just doesn't get enough of the ball, doesn't play anywhere near enough good games and has been injured too often.

And that's where you're wrong - he wasn't a good/average player - far better than that. And durr i picked those years because that's a fair assessment of Reilly's ability and proof that he can be up there!

History doesn't agree with you. You keep saying how great you think he is but provide nothing to substantiate this view. Please tell me that you're not just a deluded Crows tragic who thinks every player on our list is God's gift to footy, or a teenage girl who likes Brent because he's cute. The reality is, on what he's delivered to date he's just one of our middle tier players. Hardly untradeable material.

Again, read the posts - evidence that your intial post was an unfair assessment of the situation

No thanks, the first time was more than enough.

Well thankfully the future of our players is not decided by you, but a competent coaching staff!

You have no idea if his name will be on the trade table or not. Stop trying to pretend that you do.

His value (despite your assessments of it not being important) goes way beyond his ability on the playing field and IMHO if it keeps Victorian players like Maric, Mackay, Douglas and in future Dangerfield in our team, that's more than enough reason to keep him.

This is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard and it's perpetuated entirely by nuffties on BF in an attempt to help justify Brent's position on our list. No player is going to stay just because Reilly encourages them to and no player would leave as a result of him being traded, should it ever happen. I'm sure he may have a word with the young interstate draftees and give them advice about settling in over here, but if he's not around to do it then it will be someone else. The people who bang on about this make it sound like we've never wanted to hang on to any of our interstate draftees and that if we did ever trade him it would somehow tarnish the club as being disloyal. What utter rubbish.

 

[Crowing Around]

We're not a club that's chock full of superstars. He simply wasn't good enough to finish top 10 in the B&F in any of those years. This is a guy who's never averaged more than 19 touches per game over a season, and who only twice in his career has notched up a 30 disposal game. There's no denying he's got some high quality attributes and he's given glimpses of how good he could potentially be, but to date he just doesn't get enough of the ball, doesn't play anywhere near enough good games and has been injured too often.


History doesn't agree with you. You keep saying how great you think he is but provide nothing to substantiate this view. Please tell me that you're not just a deluded Crows tragic who thinks every player on our list is God's gift to footy, or a teenage girl who likes Brent because he's cute. The reality is, on what he's delivered to date he's just one of our middle tier players. Hardly untradeable material.


No thanks, the first time was more than enough.


You have no idea if his name will be on the trade table or not. Stop trying to pretend that you do.

This is one of the most absurd things I've ever heard and it's perpetuated entirely by nuffties on BF in an attempt to help justify Brent's position on our list. No player is going to stay just because Reilly encourages them to and no player would leave as a result of him being traded, should it ever happen. I'm sure he may have a word with the young interstate draftees and give them advice about settling in over here, but if he's not around to do it then it will be someone else. The people who bang on about this make it sound like we've never wanted to hang on to any of our interstate draftees and that if we did ever trade him it would somehow tarnish the club as being disloyal. What utter rubbish.

At the end of the day - i was right, he wasn't delisted, traded or even considered to so run along and good luck graduating from high school