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Nobody's really talking about Obi-Wan's line about the Chosen One. But it makes perfect sense from my perspective.

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Obi-Wan thinks Darth Vader is no longer the Chosen One and that that destiny has fallen to his son, Luke.

From Obi-Wan's point of view, Darth Vader is more machine than man, twisted and evil. It's Luke's destiny to destroy the Sith and bring Balance to the Force. To do that, Luke will need special training that only Obi-Wan (and Yoda) can provide.

Remember that Obi-Wan wants Luke to face Vader, hoping that Luke will kill Vader. And when Luke refuses to kill Darth Vader, Obi-Wan believes that Darth Sidious has won. Because the Chosen One will not destroy one of the two Lords of the Sith.

It's interesting to look at the way Obi-Wan and Yoda interpret the destiny of the Skywalker twins. Because at the end, Obi-Wan is wrong.

Anakin Skywalker is still the Chosen One. And there is still good within him. Despite all his wisdom and knowledge, Obi-Wan Kenobi was wrong about Anakin Skywalker.
 
GG.exe said:
Nobody's really talking about Obi-Wan's line about the Chosen One. But it makes perfect sense from my perspective.

5b064681c8860e0d92cb520c08133312.jpg


Obi-Wan thinks Darth Vader is no longer the Chosen One and that that destiny has fallen to his son, Luke.

From Obi-Wan's point of view, Darth Vader is more machine than man, twisted and evil. It's Luke's destiny to destroy the Sith and bring Balance to the Force. To do that, Luke will need special training that only Obi-Wan (and Yoda) can provide.

Remember that Obi-Wan wants Luke to face Vader, hoping that Luke will kill Vader. And when Luke refuses to kill Darth Vader, Obi-Wan believes that Darth Sidious has won. Because the Chosen One will not destroy one of the two Lords of the Sith.

It's interesting to look at the way Obi-Wan and Yoda interpret the destiny of the Skywalker twins. Because at the end, Obi-Wan is wrong.

Anakin Skywalker is still the Chosen One. And there is still good within him. Despite all his wisdom and knowledge, Obi-Wan Kenobi was wrong about Anakin Skywalker.
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Really shows Obi-Wans development as a character. In ROTS, he really does not want to kill Anakin, but now understands what must be done. Good read GG
 

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Pablo revealed some interesting details about the future of Rebels, Star Wars Television and how it might tie into the ST at some seminar. (No big spoilers). When asked if this is legit on Twitter he said ''Some of it is, some is not. I'm not gonna clarify what is and isn't real'


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#2 hints Ezra = Snoke :p (in my obsessed mind anyway)

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I am greatly pleased by #4 also; I like it when stories fit together well. A good mystery for us to think through until December. Some other interpretations to consider: the connection may be a faction rather than a character. Many have hypothesized an Inquisitorius - Knights of Ren lineage, for instance, and we have been promised a conclusion to their story within Rebels. Or, it may relate to the nature of the Force / beings in the middle, like the Bendu. Snoke, whether he is Ezra or not, seems to place great importance in the observation that Kylo can connect to both sides of the Force.

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Seems to me a connection between Ezra and Kylo. No coincidence that Ezra in Rebels finds a crossguard saber at Malachor. The first known instance of the crossguard being shown outside of the previously recently released The Force Awakens.

If that isn't a big hint, wink, nudge nudge, then I don't know what is.
 
GG.exe said:
#2 hints Ezra = Snoke :p (in my obsessed mind anyway)

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I am greatly pleased by #4 also; I like it when stories fit together well. A good mystery for us to think through until December. Some other interpretations to consider: the connection may be a faction rather than a character. Many have hypothesized an Inquisitorius - Knights of Ren lineage, for instance, and we have been promised a conclusion to their story within Rebels. Or, it may relate to the nature of the Force / beings in the middle, like the Bendu. Snoke, whether he is Ezra or not, seems to place great importance in the observation that Kylo can connect to both sides of the Force.

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Seems to me a connection between Ezra and Kylo. No coincidence that Ezra in Rebels finds a crossguard saber at Malachor. The first known instance of the crossguard being shown outside of the previously recently released The Force Awakens.

If that isn't a big hint, wink, nudge nudge, then I don't know what is.
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Could possibly end up being that Ezra is a member of the Knights of Ren, would be an awesome tie in to the show
 
copy-paste. fantastic comment...

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The thing is, Rebels doesn't need to go darker to be a more interesting show for teens and adults. There's plenty of shows out there that aren't dark in the least that have attracted a large teen and young adult following. Avatar: The last Airbender, My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic, Adventure Time, Gravity Falls, Star VS The Forces of Evil... all popular with teens and adults, and all in varying levels of maturity... most with a less mature base than Rebels. What the show needs isn't more maturity, it needs better writing. It needs to take itself more seriously. Rebels still feels like it wants the Ghost crew to be bumbling across the galaxy instead of being a leading cell of the now very real Rebel Alliance they are a part of. The show is just so flippant with the way it conducts itself. The Declaration of Rebellion was treated like it was just some random pep talk. The death of Maul was treated like an after thought. Ahsoka's fate has gone unresolved because the director doesn't know what he wants to do with her. They're just so undecided about what they want this show to be at a point in the show's life where it should have been decided by now. Is this about the Ghost crew and their view of the building of the Rebellion? Or is it about various characters throughout the galaxy and their intertwining with the history of the Rebellion? The Rebels crew hasn't taken the time to flesh out characters enough to make them interesting and have relied on cameos of other, more interesting, characters who overshadow the Ghost crew every time they appear.
 

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Spoilers apparently already online (Reddit)

I have not watched the episode this is from reddit.
"Konstantine and Sato die when Sato sacrifices himself. Thrawn lives, it seems like he'll still be the villain next season. The Rebels flee Atollon and head for Yavin. Kallus survives and goes with the Rebels. Bendu disappears into the Force after being shot point blank by Thrawn."

concerning the Rebel losses and the Bendu.
"They were pretty bad. They took out some Imperial ships, but it was definitely a major Rebel loss.
Bendu just wanted everyone off his lawn. He even tried to take down the Ghost as it fled."

LOL at the Bendu, doesn't seem like he really cares about anyone and he seems to disappear just as he did when Maul showed up earlier in the season.
as for Sato I assume by sacrifice he means he crashes his ship.hmmm so they are going to Yavin and not Dantooine, kinda disappointing.
 
Wild speculation on my part:

Thrawn is too smart to simply ignore his encounter with The Bendu. I think Rebels is planting seeds for Thrawn's exit next season without having to kill him off. Thrawn's need to study and understand more about the Bendu and his encounter with it could be a story arc next season. If Thrawn was to discuss those events with Palpatine the Emperor could command him to abandon his hunt for the Rebels and instead lead an expedition into the Unknown Regions.

Thrawn remains there for the rest of the Galactic Civil War and then helps found The First Order.
 
This was just...just...I have no words. (And not in a good way) First, I'm glad the main characters survived. But I'm pretty disappointed in the way they handled Thrawn. They completely humiliated him.

- How could Thrawn not find the location of the planet on the map? Did Ezra's distraction actually work?
- Thrawn might technically have scored a victory, but it is a hollow one. The rebel leaders escaped, Bendu mocked him, Kallus escaped, Konstantine is dead, his fleet couldn't stop the rebels from escaping, and why did Thrawn have to go to the surface in the first place? He could have quarantined the planet instead.

He might have won, but he has nothing to show for it. The rebels and their ships just move to another planet and the whole cycle starts again. It didn't feel like a victory at all, more like a humiliating defeat.

One thing I liked was Bendu, and how he attacked both the Empire and the Rebels.
 

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GG.exe said:
Nobody's really talking about Obi-Wan's line about the Chosen One. But it makes perfect sense from my perspective.

5b064681c8860e0d92cb520c08133312.jpg


Obi-Wan thinks Darth Vader is no longer the Chosen One and that that destiny has fallen to his son, Luke.

From Obi-Wan's point of view, Darth Vader is more machine than man, twisted and evil. It's Luke's destiny to destroy the Sith and bring Balance to the Force. To do that, Luke will need special training that only Obi-Wan (and Yoda) can provide.

Remember that Obi-Wan wants Luke to face Vader, hoping that Luke will kill Vader. And when Luke refuses to kill Darth Vader, Obi-Wan believes that Darth Sidious has won. Because the Chosen One will not destroy one of the two Lords of the Sith.

It's interesting to look at the way Obi-Wan and Yoda interpret the destiny of the Skywalker twins. Because at the end, Obi-Wan is wrong.

Anakin Skywalker is still the Chosen One. And there is still good within him. Despite all his wisdom and knowledge, Obi-Wan Kenobi was wrong about Anakin Skywalker.
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Probably my favorite touch of that episode was the whole Obi has given up on Anakin.

GG.exe said:
This was just...just...I have no words. (And not in a good way) First, I'm glad the main characters survived. But I'm pretty disappointed in the way they handled Thrawn. They completely humiliated him.

- How could Thrawn not find the location of the planet on the map? Did Ezra's distraction actually work?
- Thrawn might technically have scored a victory, but it is a hollow one. The rebel leaders escaped, Bendu mocked him, Kallus escaped, Konstantine is dead, his fleet couldn't stop the rebels from escaping, and why did Thrawn have to go to the surface in the first place? He could have quarantined the planet instead.

He might have won, but he has nothing to show for it. The rebels and their ships just move to another planet and the whole cycle starts again. It didn't feel like a victory at all, more like a humiliating defeat.

One thing I liked was Bendu, and how he attacked both the Empire and the Rebels.
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I came into that ep. hoping for something different yet I was satisfied with it overall.

One thing really saved it for me overall which was Tarkin asking for prisoners to make examples of, whereas Thrawn was originally pushing for the kill them all angle. This was a good throw back to A New Hope/Rouge 1 where Tarkin wanting to make examples out of places/people failed, and you could see Thrawn try to fulfill that with the whole ground assault; trying to invoke surrender and whatnot.

I didn't like it, but it did fit his character giving a pretty artsy solution for the planet thing. The whole planet existing on Thrawns maps, then apparently not existing in Imperial records though was a pretty shit loose end. The whole thing with Kallus was done interestingly, however, i'm disappointed Thrawn didn't play the long game with that; turn him into a triple agent. Mind you I'm glad he survived seeing he has some potential for character development (and has been one of the better characters introduced).

I also wasn't a fan of Thrawn putting Konstantine in a position where he mattered if he followed orders, after doing the whole working out the weak links thing in the first half of the season. That said, with Kallus defecting, it was a good time to kill him off. The Bendu also felt a little cheap, but it was something that i'm glad they resolved at least instead of leaving him as that character that appeared 2-3 times and then had no real role to play.

All in all, this is potential for one of those episodes that really becomes better (or worse) next season. The important thing is the rebellion was severely weakened from this battle, and the Imperials score a crushing defeat. I do hope Thrawn returns as the bad guy for S4 seeing he's easily the best evil Rebels has right now, especially seeing he has probably tasted his first not total victory in a long time. Leaves it open for a good bit of character development.

If they ditch Thrawn here, the episode becomes much weaker overall.
 
What LF ought to understand more is that there are Imperial fans and Rebel fans. There are Sith fans and Jedi fans. Yet SW stories are mostly thru the eyes of the Rebels/Jedi as protagonists. Following along THEIR emotions, their struggles, their journey. Which is why a lot of fans get frustrated when the Empire is often made to look bumbling and silly. I'm an Empire/Sith/DarkSide fan. I want to see a more 50:50 struggle and perception taken in all movie/tv/books. Then "Star Wars" would take itself a little more seriously than it appears to.
 

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