Stats observations

[CatToTheFuture]

Mathematically speaking, the original McIntyre final 8 system was the best for the minor premier, but it had some anomalies that the public could not accept and rightfully so.
1993-1999:
Minor premier winning the premiership: 3 of 7 (42.9%)
Minor premier making the grand final: 6 of 7 (85.7%)

2000-2017:
Minor premier winning the premiership: 6 of 18 (33.3%)
Minor premier making the grand final: 14 of 18 (77.8%)

I don't see any team outside the top 4 challenging this year, and if West Coast lose to Collingwood, we should be pretty confident of an all Victorian grand final.

Not keen on the highest scoring team in the league (Melb)?

 

[red+black]

Not keen on the highest scoring team in the league (Melb)?

I'll be hoping the Dees do well but it's a tall order to get past Geelong and Richmond/Hawthorn.

I was on their bandwagon last year when they got to 5th and I thought they could be the fairytale team like the Bulldogs of 2016. But then they went to sleep and didn't even make the finals. Historically, 8th has done very well against 5th in the finals.

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Useless stat of the day.

Currently, Tom McDonald is 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL games and 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL goals.

 

[ThePezDispenser]

Useless stat of the day.

Currently, Tom McDonald is 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL games and 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL goals.

I guess the next question is whether there are any other instances?

 

[worbod]

I guess the next question is whether there are any other instances?

In the complete history of the competition, Gordon Coventry would have been number 1 for games and goals when he reitred, and for a season or two prior.

 

[Milang_Panthers]

Useless stat of the day.

Currently, Tom McDonald is 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL games and 1293rd in all time VFL/AFL goals.

This made my day haha

 

[The Swert]

I guess the next question is whether there are any other instances?

Paul Chapman is currently equal-118th most games and 118th most goals.

If Goddard, Hodge or Ablett play on next year, then Nick Riewoldt could drop to 21st most games played to match his 21st most goals kicked.

 

[worbod]

In addition, Jack Titus would have been second to Gordon Coventry for games and goals when he retired in 1943.

 

[X_box_X]

Richmond is only the third team since 2003 to go 11-0 at home during the Home and Away season.

Geelong were 11-0 at home in 2004, 2008, 2013 and 2014. They didn't win the premiership in any of those years.

Hawthorn were 11-0 in 2014 and converted that record into a premiership.

2014 is the only time in the AFL era that two teams have been undefeated at home during the Home and Away season.

 

[red+black]

Do you know who was the last team to go 11-0 at home at the one venue?

 

[X_box_X]

Probably Brisbane in 2002.

 

[Ron The Bear]

Do you know who was the last team to go 11-0 at home at the one venue?

Most h&a wins while undefeated at one venue

14 - Richmond, MCG 2018
13 - St.Kilda, Etihad 2004
10 - Essendon, Windy Hill 1946
10 - Collingwood, Victoria Park 1970
9 - 31 teams from Collingwood, Victoria Park 1898 to Essendon, Etihad 2001


Including finals

13 - St.Kilda, Etihad 2004
12 - Essendon, MCG 2000
11 - Melbourne, MCG 1955
11 - Carlton, MCG 1995
10 - Essendon, Windy Hill 1946
10 - Collingwood, Victoria Park 1970
10 - Melbourne, MCG 1959 (plus one draw)

 

[red+black]

I meant as the designated home team

 

[X_box_X]

Most h&a wins while undefeated at one venue

14 - Richmond, MCG 2018
13 - St.Kilda, Etihad 2004
10 - Essendon, Windy Hill 1946
10 - Collingwood, Victoria Park 1970
9 - 31 teams from Collingwood, Victoria Park 1898 to Essendon, Etihad 2001


Including finals

13 - St.Kilda, Etihad 2004
12 - Essendon, MCG 2000
11 - Melbourne, MCG 1955
11 - Carlton, MCG 1995
10 - Essendon, Windy Hill 1946
10 - Collingwood, Victoria Park 1970
10 - Melbourne, MCG 1959 (plus one draw)

Interesting that Brisbane were 14-0 at home in 2002 but actually lost an away game at the GABBA.

 

[red+black]

Most H&A home games at the SCG (1897-2018):

364 - Sydney
10 - North Melbourne
8 - Western Bulldogs
2 - Fitzroy, Essendon, Geelong
1 - Richmond, St Kilda

 

[red+black]

Most H&A home games at the Gabba (1981-2018):

289 - Brisbane
7 - Melbourne
4 - Gold Coast
1 - Hawthorn

 

[red+black]

Most H&A home games at Carrara (1987-2018):

80 - Gold Coast
61 - Brisbane
6 - North Melbourne
1 - Melbourne, Hawthorn, Carlton, St Kilda, Richmond

 

[red+black]

Most H&A home games at the WACA (1987-2000):

51 - West Coast
18 - Fremantle
1 - Brisbane

 

[X_box_X]

Most H&A home games at the WACA (1987-2000):

51 - West Coast
18 - Fremantle
1 - Brisbane

Haha that's a cool trivia question. What year did Brisbane play there?

 

[red+black]

Most H&A home games at Princes Park (1897-2005):

933 - Carlton
153 - Hawthorn
94 - Fitzroy
28 - Western Bulldogs
13 - South Melbourne
11 - North Melbourne
10 - Melbourne
9 - Richmond
7 - Essendon
1 - St Kilda

 

[red+black]

Haha that's a cool trivia question. What year did Brisbane play there?

R3, 1988 - https://afltables.com/afl/venues/waca_gm.html#1980

Then played there again in R16, also against West Coast, but as the 'away' team.

 

[red+black]

Geelong Home Games in Geelong

- last time Geelong had 11 of 22 home games in Geelong: never
- last time Geelong had 10 of 22 home games in Geelong: 1995-96 and 1987-88
- last time Geelong had 50% home games in Geelong: 1953-69
- last time Geelong had >50% home games in Geelong: 1949 and 1947

 

[red+black]

I loved State of Origin back in the 80s but since we introduced clubs from WA and SA there seems no point now. Clubs don't want it, coaches don't want it, elite players don't want it. Furthermore, I hated having a weekend with just one game, especially if that game was not in Victoria. For that reason, the ridiculous 7-1 (2004), 6-2 (2005-06, 2008) and 5-3 (2007, 2009-10) round splits were shelved.

Unlike NRL State of Origin, the best form of Australian Rules football is the regular game between clubs, rather than match-ups between composite sides.

This current bye weekend sucks and football fans are missing their dose of sport. There have been suggestions of a play-off weekend and I am confident this will happen before too long. Just like Good Friday football was inevitable.

So I thought I'd look at possible playoff matchups, beginning with the 18-team competition in 2012.

What I like about play-offs:
- only teams 1 to 6 get the week off
- harder for 7 and 8 to win their Elimination Final (or 9 or 10), not to mention the premiership
- while 7 and 8 do not get a home final, they would get a home playoff
- teams 9-12 still have something worth fighting for late in the season
- the AFL will like the opportunity for a possible extra 1-2 games at Docklands

PLAYOFF WEEKEND
2012: 7-FR (14-8) v 10-CA (11-11) @ Subiaco ; 8-NM (14-8) v 9-SK (12-10) @ Docklands
2013: 7-PA (12-10) v 10-AD @ Football Park ; 8-CA (11-11) v 9-NM (10-12) @ Docklands
2014: 7-ES (12-1-9) v 10-AD (11-11) @ Docklands ; 8-RI (12-10) v 9-WC (11-11) @ Docklands
2015: 7-AD (13-8) v 10-GE (11-1-9) @ Football Park ; 8-NM (13-9) v 9-PA (12-10) @ Docklands
2016: 7-WB (15-7) v 10-PA (10-12) @ Docklands ; 8-NM (12-10) v 9-SK (12-10) @ Docklands
2017: 7-ES (12-10) v 10-WB (11-11) @ Docklands ; 8-WC (12-10) v 9-ME (12-10) @ Subiaco
2018: 7-GW (13-1-8) v 10-PA (12-10) @ Showgrounds ; 8-GE (13-9) v 9-NM (12-10) @ Docklands

Observations:
9 playoff games at Docklands in 7 seasons
2013 - all Adelaide playoff, Brisbane just miss playoffs by percentage (albeit 18.5%)
2015 - Adelaide v Geelong playoff in the year that their H&A match was historically cancelled
2017 - St Kilda miss playoffs by 0.14%

 

[red+black]

# of Geelong H&A Games (/22) in Melbourne (1987-2018

8 (4 times) - 1993*, 1997, 1999, 2018
9 (18 times) - any year not mentioned
10 (8 times) - 1987, 1990, 1991, 1995, 1998, 2000, 2005, 2010
11 (2 times) - 1989, 1994

* only 20 H&A games in 1993

 

[red+black]

SANFL 1984. - After 6 rounds, Port Adelaide were 6-0 and on top of the ladder. Norwood were 1-5 and equal last.

Port Adelaide finished the season as minor premiers with a 17-5 record, Norwood won 12 of their last 16 games to finish 13-9 and in 5th position. Port Adelaide won their 2nd semi final convincingly and went through to the grand final. Norwood miraculously made the grand final from an elimination final, defeating South Adelaide 137-90, Central District 105-92 and Glenelg 107-89.

Yes, Norwood managed to do the (almost) impossible, defeating Port Adelaide 100-91 and winning the grand final from 5th. They remain the only club in VFL, AFL, SANFL or WAFL history to achieve this unique feat.

VFL teams to make a Grand Final from 5th in a Final 5 system:
Collingwood (1980) - lost by 81 points
Essendon (1983) - lost by 83 points
Melbourne (1988) - lost by 96 points