Stats questions

[UpForGrabs]

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Pretty sure they're only counted if you play on. Don't know the answer to the second part.

It's always got me intrigued. It's kind of like in cricket if a bowler bowls three wides in an over, the over goes for nine balls (even though only six were legal). The batsman still has nine balls added to the tally of balls faced, even though three of them weren't legal and had to be bowled again.

Just a couple of the loopholes in sports, I guess

 

[red+black]

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I thought wides were not counted towards a batsman's tally as he could not score from them. No balls should be unless they were also a wide. I've always thought that a no-ball and wide delivery should be called wide rather than no-ball for the same reason, the batsman cannot score from a wide.

 

[UpForGrabs]

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Yeah, you're probably right.

As for being able to be stumped off a wide - that's another kettle of fish.

 

[damuzzdu]

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Quick one for the stats gurus.

Has there even been an occurrence of teams drawing twice in a row H&A or even in finals ?

ie week 1 drawing against Team X them drawing again following week against Team Y.

How about...probably even more unlikely....

How about the teams that drew, both drawing the following week obviously against different opponents ??

TIA
Muzz

 

[Ron The Bear]

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Quick one for the stats gurus.

Has there even been an occurrence of teams drawing twice in a row H&A or even in finals ?

ie week 1 drawing against Team X them drawing again following week against Team Y.

How about...probably even more unlikely....

How about the teams that drew, both drawing the following week obviously against different opponents ??

TIA
Muzz

Carlton, R1 & 2 1911 v Es & SM
Carlton, R4 & 5 1921 v Fi & SM

 

[damuzzdu]

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Wow Thanks Ron.

Even finding 2 I am slightly shocked, i was expecting Zero.

So it is 90 years since it happened...with more teams now in chances it might happen again before i die.

 

[RogersResults]

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Quick one for the stats gurus.

Has there even been an occurrence of teams drawing twice in a row H&A or even in finals ?

ie week 1 drawing against Team X them drawing again following week against Team Y.

How about...probably even more unlikely....

How about the teams that drew, both drawing the following week obviously against different opponents ??

TIA
Muzz

Near Misses: Consecutive matches with either a draw or 1 point result.

Essendon 16 18 114 Richmond 18 5 113 - 1946 R19
Essendon 14 16 100 Collingwood 13 22 100 - 1946 Semi Final

Fitzroy 9 9 63 St Kilda 9 8 62 - 1961 R11
Fitzroy 6 8 44 Melbourne 6 8 44 - 1961 R12

Melbourne 10 10 70 Sydney/SM 9 15 69 - 1921 R4
Melbourne 13 12 90 St Kilda 12 18 90 - 1921 R5

Melbourne 6 13 49 Collingwood 7 7 49 - 1957 R13
Melbourne 11 7 73 Essendon 9 18 72 - 1957 R14

St Kilda 13 2 80 WB/Footscray 11 13 79 - 1956 R13
St Kilda 9 12 66 Carlton 8 18 66 - 1956 R14

Sydney/SM 9 7 61 Carlton 8 13 61 - 1913 R2
Sydney/SM 8 9 57 Richmond 9 2 56 - 1913 R3

WB/Footscray 4 11 35 Fitzroy 3 16 34 1 1976 R21
WB/Footscray 15 17 107 Carlton 15 17 107 0 1976 R22

West Coast 13 14 92 Brisbane 14 8 92 0 1992 R5
West Coast 14 13 97 Richmond 14 12 96 1 1992 R6

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[Lids Fan]

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hi guys, im looking for stats from the 09 season. But i want more than just kicks, handballs etc. i want clearances, inside 50, rebound 50 etc.
cheers in advance

 

[*Paul*]

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Something like this then?

[B][U]Start  Finish  #Yrs  Field  Subs  I/C[/U][/B]

1946   1977      32     18     2    0
subs - player subbed off cannot return to field
i/c - player subbed off can return to field

I notice in 1977, judging by the blank stat returns, replacements didn't always
make it onto the field. These have been counted as games for the player in the records though - which is fair enough I suppose, if they were fresh players i.e. not having played any games previously on the day. Would they have?

 

[Ron The Bear]

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I notice in 1977, judging by the blank stat returns, replacements didn't always make it onto the field. These have been counted as games for the player in the records though - which is fair enough I suppose, if they were fresh players i.e. not having played any games previously on the day. Would they have?

Don't think it was customary, although I have a vague recollection of a player (other than David Hale this year) being called up to the seniors after playing in the curtain-raiser.

Jack Dyer spent his debut match on the bench - it was the Depression and clubs saved a few bob as interchange players who didn't get a run only received half match payments. I'm under the impression that it was rare for players to go off injured in that era, lest the 19th man impress and take their spot in the team.

 

[worbod]

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Does anybody happen to know the dates when North Melbourne played their night series matches in 1982? All I know is they played the Grand Final against Sydney on July 20.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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Does anybody happen to know the dates when North Melbourne played their night series matches in 1982? All I know is they played the Grand Final against Sydney on July 20.

Other dates were April 6

http://news.google.com.au/newspaper...IBAJ&pg=2255,3527246&dq=north+melbourne&hl=en

June 1

http://news.google.com.au/newspaper...AIBAJ&pg=2381,618789&dq=north+melbourne&hl=en

and June 29

http://news.google.com.au/newspaper...g=4019,6728520&dq=north+melbourne+night&hl=en

 

[brett128]

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Just wondering where I can find some decent match statistics on state football leagues. I've only managed to find http://www.w*************.au as a decent source of match data on the WAFL. Is there anymore out there?

I'm not bothered if I have to pay a bit for the info either.

Also, I can't find any historical h2h and line odds on state football matches at all. Anyone have an idea where I can get them from? Again, unpaid or paid, I'm not fussed.

Cheers.

 

[damuzzdu]

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If Collingwood, Geelong, St.Kilda, WB all end making the Top4 in 2011 will this be the 1st time in since competition was expanded in 1986 ?

What is longest run of same 4 teams occupying the same top 4 spots (thou not in exactly same order) after H&A in V/AFL history. ?

 

[SJ]

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How many sets of brothers have coached at VFL/AFL level? What about against eachother?

 

[RogersResults]

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If Collingwood, Geelong, St.Kilda, WB all end making the Top4 in 2011 will this be the 1st time in since competition was expanded in 1986 ?

What is longest run of same 4 teams occupying the same top 4 spots (thou not in exactly same order) after H&A in V/AFL history. ?

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Fitzroy
1904-1905-1906 (8 teams competing)

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Sydney/SM
1909-1910-1911 (10 teams competing)

Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Melbourne
1925-1926 (12 teams competing)

Carlton
Collingwood
Geelong
Richmond
1930-1931 (12 teams competing)

Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
St Kilda
1965-1966 (12 teams competing)

Collingwood
Geelong
St Kilda
WB/Footscray
2009-2010 ((16 teams competing)

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[RogersResults]

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How many sets of brothers have coached at VFL/AFL level? What about against each other?

1958-1962 Norm Smith - Melbourne, Len Smith - Fitzroy
1964-1965 Norm Smith - Melbourne, Len Smith - Richmond
(coached against each other.)
Previously Norm had been coach of Fitzroy 1949-1951 before taking over at Melbourne 1952-1965 and was later coach of Sth. Melbourne 1969-1972

1964-1971 Bob Rose - Collingwood, 1975-1977 Kevin Rose - Fitzroy

I can't think of any others.


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[Ron The Bear]

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1958-1962 Norm Smith - Melbourne, Len Smith - Fitzroy
1964-1965 Norm Smith - Melbourne, Len Smith - Richmond
(coached against each other.)
Previously Norm had been coach of Fitzroy 1949-1951 before taking over at Melbourne 1952-1965 and was later coach of Sth. Melbourne 1969-1972

1964-1971 Bob Rose - Collingwood, 1975-1977 Kevin Rose - Fitzroy

I can't think of any others.


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Bob Rose coached Footscray 1972-75 so would've coached against Kevin in 1975.

In the early 20th century, Vic (Sy & Fi) & Alan Belcher (Es) were brothers, but didn't coach at the same time.

 

[Ron The Bear]

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Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Fitzroy
1904-1905-1906 (8 teams competing)
...

Also for the three seasons 1899-1901, Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong and Fitzroy made up the top four at the end of the home & away rounds.

 

[damuzzdu]

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Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Fitzroy
1904-1905-1906 (8 teams competing)

Carlton
Collingwood
Essendon
Sydney/SM
1909-1910-1911 (10 teams competing)

Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
Melbourne
1925-1926 (12 teams competing)

Carlton
Collingwood
Geelong
Richmond
1930-1931 (12 teams competing)

Collingwood
Essendon
Geelong
St Kilda
1965-1966 (12 teams competing)

Collingwood
Geelong
St Kilda
WB/Footscray
2009-2010 ((16 teams competing)

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Also for the three seasons 1899-1901, Collingwood, Essendon, Geelong and Fitzroy made up the top four at the end of the home & away rounds.

Interesting stats guys tks.

Collingwood was/is involved in every occassion

Collingwood 7 times
Essendon 5
Geelong 5
Carlton 3
St. Kilda & Fitzroy 2 each
Sydney, Melbourne, Richmond. Footsrcay/WB 1 each

 

[Gazza_11]

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Wasn't sure where else to post this, but does anyone know Ben Cousins best beep test score?

 

[foley_falcon]

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Is Collingwood's pick 45 in this years draft the latest ever first pick in a draft for a club?

 

[worbod]

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Does anybody happen to know the dates when St Kilda played their night series matches in 1982 and 1983?

 

[RogersResults]

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Does anybody happen to know the dates when St Kilda played their night series matches in 1982 and 1983?

1982 "Escort" Cup 4th May v Footscray at Waverly Park.
8th June v Sydney at Waverly Park.

1983 "Sterling" Cup 3rd May 1983 v Richmond at Waverly Park

Why?

 

[worbod]

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I'm wanting to research Mark Scott's career and then make a post on the VFL/AFL Reserves & Under-19 Records? thread.