anybody able to get a list of teams and totals on who have lost when they've led in the final quarter of the match for past 5 or so years?
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If you mean - led at any time during the last quarter - you'll have to compile your own from here: http://stats.rleague.com/afl/seas/season_idx.html
Scoring progressions are listed for matches starting from 2008.
With one Tom Lynch kicking 10 goals a couple of weeks ago, and another Tom Lynch kicking 2 only a couple of hours later, I was wondering how many other instances have there been of more than one player with the same name kicking goals in the same round/on the same day, and what the highest combined total would be (i.e. has the Tom Lynch total of 12 been bettered?)
Maybe Nathan Brown? - there were three of them playing at one point, and one at least was a handy goalkicker.
Maybe Nathan Brown? - there were three of them playing at one point, and one at least was a handy goalkicker.
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My database isn't set up to do this query. I've gone out of my way to avoid recording different players under the same name!
On a related front, I can say that the most goals kicked in a round by players with the same surname is 18 by the Johnsons in R21 2006 (excluding of course the Fannings in 1947
).The most players with the same surname in one round is 11, again by the Johnsons, in R8 2005. The next most prolific names have been Smith & Williams (7), and Brown & Jones (6).
Will see what I can do about addressing your specific question, but no promises.
Edit: Beaten on Fanning quip
List is as accurate as I can make it without spending hours to ensure it's definitive:
Goals|Player|Year|Round|Date|Clubs|Breakdown
\12|Tom Lynch|2013|7|12/5/2013|Ad,GC|10 & 2
\10|Josh Kennedy|2011|9|22/5/2011|WC,Sy|10 & 0
\9|John Murphy|1971|17|24/7/1971|Fi,Sy|6 & 3
\9|Josh Kennedy|2012|1|24/3/2012 & 1/4/2012|WC,Sy|7 & 2
\8|Keith Miller|1941|17|23/8/1941|St,Ge|8 & 0
\8|Don McKenzie|1967|15|5/8/1967|WB,Es|8 & 0
\7|Jack Ryan|1932|8|25/6/1932|Ha,Fi|6 & 1
\7|John Murphy|1972|14|8/7/1972|Fi,Sy|7 & 0
\7|Peter Brown|1978|11|17/6/1978|Ca,Fi|6 & 1
\7|Nathan Brown|2002|18|8/4/2002|WB,Me|7 & 0
\12|Tom Lynch|2013|7|12/5/2013|Ad,GC|10 & 2
\10|Josh Kennedy|2011|9|22/5/2011|WC,Sy|10 & 0
\9|John Murphy|1971|17|24/7/1971|Fi,Sy|6 & 3
\9|Josh Kennedy|2012|1|24/3/2012 & 1/4/2012|WC,Sy|7 & 2
\8|Keith Miller|1941|17|23/8/1941|St,Ge|8 & 0
\8|Don McKenzie|1967|15|5/8/1967|WB,Es|8 & 0
\7|Jack Ryan|1932|8|25/6/1932|Ha,Fi|6 & 1
\7|John Murphy|1972|14|8/7/1972|Fi,Sy|7 & 0
\7|Peter Brown|1978|11|17/6/1978|Ca,Fi|6 & 1
\7|Nathan Brown|2002|18|8/4/2002|WB,Me|7 & 0
And the Jason Dunstalls had a good day against Richmond in 1992 IIRC
Many thanks Ron and SJ, great work - forgot about the Josh Kennedys.
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Can anybody provide the stats for the most 'contested possessions' in a single game by a single player, or say a top 10/20?
Also, related to this, how long has the contested possession stat been recorded?
Cheers.
EDIT: Just found out on my own forum regarding start of CP stats (=1999).
Also, related to this, how long has the contested possession stat been recorded?
Cheers.
EDIT: Just found out on my own forum regarding start of CP stats (=1999).
Heh, I've done the opposite, can't see any you've missed. Of course, all the Teds, Eds, Teddys, Edwards and Eddy-babies would also take me a few tedious hours of homework to untangle.
Actually, I just noticed you included noughts, so Don McKenzie 8 & 0 on 5/8/1967.
Ah, most of my similar names are differentiated by a middle initial, e.g.
Kennedy, Josh J.
Kennedy, Josh P.
I stripped off the initial for the purposes of the query using Left([Player], Instr([Player], ".") - 3) in VBA. I've got the McKenzies from that day as
McKenzie, Don
McKenzie, I. Don
So 'McKenzie, I. Don' was converted to plain old 'McKenzie', and no match showed up.
Has anyone got any info on how Adelaide's effort on the weekend ranks on an all-time list for 'shortest time in front when going on to win'?
I believe they were ahead for less than a minute of actual game time and in fact trailed from the second minute of the game till that point.
I was explaining the 'score worm' for this game to my son the other day (he's six, and rapidly developing a keen interest in the stats surrounding footy) and was struck by how 'unique' it appeared to be.
For example, is there a game on record where the team that won the game never led during the actual game time? Where a goal/point kicked after the siren delivered the win to a team that had never been in front before?
Thanks,
S.
I believe they were ahead for less than a minute of actual game time and in fact trailed from the second minute of the game till that point.
I was explaining the 'score worm' for this game to my son the other day (he's six, and rapidly developing a keen interest in the stats surrounding footy) and was struck by how 'unique' it appeared to be.
For example, is there a game on record where the team that won the game never led during the actual game time? Where a goal/point kicked after the siren delivered the win to a team that had never been in front before?
Thanks,
S.
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If the answer can't be extracted from a database, below is a list of the possible candidates - winners that trailed at the first three quarter breaks and won by 1 to 6 points.
Someone might like to research here: http://stats.rleague.com/afl/seas/season_idx.html - choose season/round/match/match stats/scoring progression
The 294 matches in this category 1897-2007 is a more difficult research project.
I have the figures mentioned by RR, but it's a bit of pain trying to work with them. But the two closest approaches I could see by taking shortcuts are here:
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/2008/031320080608.html#prog
and here:
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/stats/games/2010/071520100430.html#prog
Didn't do the laborious work of manually checking pre-2008
Since 2008
17 Hawthorn
16 North Melbourne
16 Fremantle
15 West Coast
15 Port Adelaide
14 Richmond
13 Brisbane Lions
12 Western Bulldogs
12 Essendon
11 Adelaide
10 Collingwood
9 Sydney
9 St Kilda
8 Melbourne
8 Carlton
6 Geelong
4 Gold Coast
1 Greater Western Sydney
Thanks, Bel. Great get there.
Just checked the info on that game (Rd 22 Haw v StK) on the stats.rleague.com site.
So Hall kicked a goal after the siren to win it?
Does anyone know where there might be match reports on this game available online?
Amazing result in any case...
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Thanks, Paul.
And thanks to RR for drawing attention to the 'possible' games from 2008 till the present.
And to the 294 games in this category for 1897-2007!
Belnakor's already seemingly found the clubhouse leader - St Kilda's win over Hawthorn in Round 22 2001.
All in all, football really is an amazing game.
Great work, SJ.
Love this stellar moment of understatement in the midst of the match report...
'Barry Hall's fourth goal, kicked after the final siren, completed as unlikely a victory as 2001 has produced.'
In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it could be, by one measure at least, as unlikely a victory as the entire history of the game has produced.
wikipedia has an "after the siren kicks" page which is where i stumbled upon it (was actually thinking longmuir's kick in 2005 was the only time Freo were in front but we actually led at 1/4 time)
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Cheers. Thanks for that. Now that you mention it, I do remember a discussion about this at some point, can't remember where, but it does ring a bell.
Great work, SJ.
Love this stellar moment of understatement in the midst of the match report...
'Barry Hall's fourth goal, kicked after the final siren, completed as unlikely a victory as 2001 has produced.'
In the absence of evidence to the contrary, it could be, by one measure at least, as unlikely a victory as the entire history of the game has produced.
Maybe somebody will have a video of the match to confirm that St Kilda was never ahead of Hawthorn at any stage of the match.
10 of the matches in the list of 36 matches where the match was won with a goal after the siren were ones where the winning team trailed at the first 3 quarter breaks. None of the matches won with a behind after the siren were.
