Josh Carr's Ruthless Port Adelaide

[jdeezy]

If we can't get some decent talent here permanently can we at least bring in someone that knows about a winning culture at least in a consulting role to convince these players that, while yes, football might not be everything in life it would still be pretty bloody good to live up to your talents and use them for some success while you've got the chance? Basically, an anti Daddy and Boak "people first" ambassador?

Carr would've suited that but I'm unconvinced with how long he's been in the love in do it for daddy system

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Yes! There was no soft cap back then, like there is today, not that we spent many millions more than the other clubs.

We have to be prepared to pay to get great people to Alberton, and work with sponsors so part of wages falls outside the cap.

If we want a world best athletics coach to improve players running style / cadence etc, work with a sponsor to bring out someone like John Smith from California and his HSI program, and he does work with Athletics Australia so that his payment can be hidden from Port's books, but he does a decent amount of work with Port.

Same with a grappling / wrestling coach. There are plenty of good ones in Oz, but if you get the best Olympic wrestling coach in USA from the college system, get him to work with the Australian Wrestling Federation, but he does a lot of work with Port and a sponsor pays for that.

Farken break the soft cap and pay the tax.

I wrote about WCE doing this last week, to fast track development, given they have $10m cash in the bank and $62m in short term deposits and equity investments, they have their $60m facility, so they don't need all that cash. Spend it and fast track the kids. We can't spend as much as them, but stuff it spend the $$$ as well as do the tax dodge deals with sponsors.

This really depends whether the board is more interested in paying off the last of our debt before the next phase of redevelopment or giving us the best chance of success.

I have a feeling the race to pay off the debt before the redevelopment starts is getting tight so they probably can't do both.

 

[Addy23]

This really depends whether the board is more interested in paying off the last of our debt before the next phase of redevelopment or giving us the best chance of success.

I have a feeling the race to pay off the debt before the redevelopment starts is getting tight so they probably can't do both.

Fwiw if we don't pay off the debt, we can't get rid of Koch

 

[Freak Dodgeball Accident]

Would love to get Chocco back in some capacity, development role or something.

 

[Rigs]

I would just love Schofield back

 

[EskimoPAFC]

It’s bullshit the small town thinking of assistants won’t want to be here.
Sounds like koch

Seven current head coaches spent part of their playing or coaching career in Adelaide.

Only Yze and Beveridge haven’t ever been out of Melbourne out of 18 coaches.

If you present opportunity they will come.

If you are a dead man walking of course you can’t attract anyone.

Yeah I think people underestimate just how big the Hinkley effect has been for the last 5 years. As soon as it became clear he was never going to bring success to Port and would throw his assistants under the boss nobody in their right mind would want to come here. The challenge is to find a way to prove to Australia that will change under Carr.

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I wouldn't be going near Montgomery with a 10 foot pole. Good to have for a few years at most, until he wears out his welcome with everyone in the building.

Felt like he was good at managing the defensive lines but absolutely horrendous as a midfield coach. The worst I've ever seen and that's saying something. Do you think if he'd stayed in defence we'd all see him differently and he might still be at the club? Why did he move in to mid?

 

[EskimoPAFC]

I would just love Schofield back

Probably one of the few blokes I'd rather have as head coach than Carr.

 

[backtozero]

I’ll support Josh until he gives me evidence enough not to be up to the challenge he’ll be facing.

If the thread had a different title, would you reply to it differently?

 

[gbear]

Going into 2026, we can't have a coaching panel that still looks like this:

Chad Cornes - Forwards
Tyson Goldsack - Defensive
Hamish Hartlett - SANFL
Matthew Lobbe - Ruck/Development
Jason Williams - Development
Cameron Sutcliffe - Development

This would be close to the worst coaching panel in the league and an indictment on Koch, who in 2012, said what this Club needed was a fully-funded football program.

So who can we go after to support Josh?

I've seen Hodge's name mentioned - would be great to have someone with a hard edge that was actually successful on the field to look after the midfield.

It might be a good idea to have an experienced Senior Assistant, similar to Richardson in 2013 and Walsh in 2014.

I would go after Don Pyke, personally but others may not agree.

Who you got?

This is the worst coaching panel in the league, it is simply a Hinkley boys club. All of them need to be removed prior to 2026.

 

[Long live PAFC]

I would be intrigued to see what Chad, Trent, Justin, etc are doing to get better?
Is Hammer undertaking a coaching or leadership course? Are they visiting coaches and leaders or getting people in? Do they have mentors they check in with regularly?

It feels like the constant improvement required to stay at the top, red queen theory, hasn’t been enacted at port.

 

[PowerLil]

I would be intrigued to see what Chad, Trent, Justin, etc are doing to get better?
Is Hammer undertaking a coaching or leadership course? Are they visiting coaches and leaders or getting people in? Do they have mentors they check in with regularly?

It feels like the constant improvement required to stay at the top, red queen theory, hasn’t been enacted at port.

I asked Richo about Sutcliffe and Lobbe specifically at the AGM. Zero.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

I would be intrigued to see what Chad, Trent, Justin, etc are doing to get better?
Is Hammer undertaking a coaching or leadership course? Are they visiting coaches and leaders or getting people in? Do they have mentors they check in with regularly?

It feels like the constant improvement required to stay at the top, red queen theory, hasn’t been enacted at port.

Ken would feel too threatened by them if they tried to improve

 

[Windy Cindy]

We need coaches in the box that other clubs would want to take, not also rans that nobody gives a stuff about

I looked at geelongs box and it has rahily (potential head coach); king (potential head coach); kelly (has coached at afl before) and not to mention Chris Scott

Chris Scott

Age

49

Ht

182cm

Wt

89kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.6

4star

K

11.2

4star

HB

5.4

4star

M

5.1

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

0.4

3star

No current season stats available

D

13.2

4star

K

10.2

4star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.2

3star

T

2.8

5star

G

0.4

3star

and then there's our bunch of no hopers

if carr rolls out with everything exactly the same, hes in big trouble

 

[1954]

It works. It’s just not good enough.

Agreed GP that game plan regularly comes unstuck when the oppo brings the heat, and particularly in finals.

At the Gabba yesterday Melbourne had to win an insane amount of hard ball gets and often in 1 v 2 or 2 v 3 situations particularly when the game was on the line in the last 10 minutes of the game which enabled them to continually send the ball into their forward 50, and even when a brisvegas defender got the ball he was regularly forced to kick to a pack on the outer wing where Max Gawn was lurking, and he kept taking marks and sending it back where it came from.

Given a similar set of circumstances the Power line up with kern coaching would have lost that same game by at least 3 or 4 goals.

Back to the thread question.

I agree that Josh Carr needs to get the reins before the season is over so he can assess if any of the current assistants are worth keeping.
I also agree that a Richardson or Walsh type senior assistant is essential.

 

[GremioPower]

If the thread had a different title, would you reply to it differently?

Of course.

 

[Chewy316]

Felt like he was good at managing the defensive lines but absolutely horrendous as a midfield coach. The worst I've ever seen and that's saying something. Do you think if he'd stayed in defence we'd all see him differently and he might still be at the club? Why did he move in to mid?

He's a good coach. But he absolutely wears everyone thin very quickly. It's why he never lasts long in any one spot during his coaching career.

 

[gbear]

I asked Richo about Sutcliffe and Lobbe specifically at the AGM. Zero.

They are 2 losers of the highest order. Achieved nothing in their careers to warrant them being AFL coaches.

 

[Papa G]

2026 Dream Team

Janus - Forwards
Expat Power - Defensive
Willsy10 - SANFL
Strand Victor - Ruck/Development
Travis Boak

10

Travis Boak

Age

37

Ht

183cm

Wt

86kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

11.6

4star

HB

12.0

5star

M

3.7

4star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.6

5star

D

22.0

5star

K

11.0

4star

HB

11.0

5star

M

2.4

3star

T

4.4

5star

CL

4.9

5star

D

16.4

4star

K

7.4

3star

HB

9.0

5star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

- Development
Drugs Are Bad Mackay? - Development (Huge Coup)

 

[backtozero]

Of course.

Why? You're misrepresenting what it's about.

This isn't about the supporters supporting Josh, it's about having qualified and skilled people around him, like a fully-funded, multi-million dollar organisation is supposed to have, in order to give him the best chance to succeed.

 

[240volt]

We need coaches in the box that other clubs would want to take, not also rans that nobody gives a stuff about

I looked at geelongs box and it has rahily (potential head coach); king (potential head coach); kelly (has coached at afl before) and not to mention Chris Scott

and then there's our bunch of no hopers

if carr rolls out with everything exactly the same, hes in big trouble

I wouldn’t blame Carr if we roll out the same deadbeats next year.
Koch and co control the purse stings and they’re as tight as a fishes arse.

 

[The Hobo]

For a start Carr could construct a gameplan based on sound principles, I suggest a good defensive underpinning should be its foundations.

I firmly believe it's the fundamentals that have let Ken down time and time again. Our goalkicking has been horrendous for a number of years and have cost us many games including finals. Our general skills have been pretty average - and our fitness in the last few years has been putrid.

Addressing the coaching staff (not just the bloke at the top) is paramount to success. Ken had some great assistants and support staff over time, and they culminated in pretty decent attempts at a premiership. Yes we never got there, but got close a few times with those assistants.

 

[240volt]

I firmly believe it's the fundamentals that have let Ken down time and time again. Our goalkicking has been horrendous for a number of years and have cost us many games including finals. Our general skills have been pretty average - and our fitness in the last few years has been putrid.

Addressing the coaching staff (not just the bloke at the top) is paramount to success. Ken had some great assistants and support staff over time, and they culminated in pretty decent attempts at a premiership. Yes we never got there, but got close a few times with those assistants.

We have got close on the back of a handful of players carrying the side.
We’ve had too many deficiencies down back and up forward to be a serious challenger.
Basically if an opposition team breaks even with our midfield they’re home and hose.
If you want to be serious about winning anything you need forwards that kick goals and defenders that can work as one unit like it used to be with the old Port teams.
We have players back there that can’t even bend over or stick a tackle.

 

[tribey]

I asked Richo about Sutcliffe and Lobbe specifically at the AGM. Zero.

Sutcliffe’s glow-up after getting delisted in his prime by one of the worst Freo teams of all-time should be studied.

Again, can only assume he’s mates with Davies from their time together at WWT because there is literally no other explanation.

 

[GremioPower]

Why? You're misrepresenting what it's about.

Why, you ask. Well, my original post would be different precisely because it wasn’t on the actual topic.