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Dry Rot said:
For those that are interested, it looks like a nasty mutant N3H2 winter and a vaccine mis-match.

http://www.google.org/flutrends/au/#AU

http://fluboard.rhizalabs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=8148
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Interesting- I copped a dose of some sort of flu last week, and it was the sickest I can remember being, had three days off work, including 24 hours where I couldn't sleep, couldn't get out of bed, couldn't lie prone and ran a crazy fever- was absolutely weak as a kitten afterwards.

Over it now, but it is the only time in my life I have seriously considered going to an ER over a case of the sniffles.
 
Total_Juddshanks said:
Interesting- I copped a dose of some sort of flu last week, and it was the sickest I can remember being, had three days off work, including 24 hours where I couldn't sleep, couldn't get out of bed, couldn't lie prone and ran a crazy fever- was absolutely weak as a kitten afterwards.

Over it now, but it is the only time in my life I have seriously considered going to an ER over a case of the sniffles.
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I felt similar. I kept breaking the fever only for it to return.
 

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Dry Rot said:
Keep an eye out for a new swine flu emerging now in summer in Indiana USA - H3N2v
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USA has been copping a very nasty flu season with a mutant version of H3N2. See http://www.google.org/flutrends/us/#US - see how it was much worse than swine flu in 2009.

It came early and hard in the USA. It has been the worse flu season since 2003-04. The current vax (which we will be getting) doesn't really help against it. It kills old people and infants.

Meanwhile, there is a mutant H1N1 in Africa and Europe. The current vax may not protect against that either.

The mutant version of H3N2 has been picked up here in late 2012 sequences. It's here, and next winter is looking ugly.
 
I was actually in Mexico City back in April 2009 when the H1N1 outbreak started..

It was pretty crazy, the military were out in force handing out facemasks (though, I am rather sure these things don't stop you catching it, rather, they stop you spreading it if you already have it... but I digress)

It was certainly interesting returning back to Australia and the paranoia that was abound.. especially considering that I worked in a medical centre back then and had all these hypercondriacs came in thinking that they had the 'flu (or even worse, reluctant patients coming in because their workplace was making them proove that they didn't have the 'flu before allowing them back at work... )

All these people that had otherwise not left the country paranoid about it, yet I was there in Mexico as it happened and I didn't catch it at all...
I also loved the news report about the first Australian to die from the flu.. I distinctly remember it, a middle aged overweight and diabetic, but otherwise healthy, man died from complications after contracting the flu... TELL ME.. how can you be 'otherwise healthy' when you are overweight and diabetic? Contradiction of terms and just the media playing on people's fears...

Also, there was a shitload of Tamiflu that was about to go out of date after the bird flu never eventuated from a few years before. People were coming in by the hundreds to get a script for a $70 tablet... it was a rort, I tell you...
 

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Going to be a plague sooner or later. I see there have been a handlful of SARS related deaths from the Persian Gulf countries recently.

With 7 Billion on the planet I'm confident we will survive as a species.

The damage from the panic could easily be greater that the disease itself.

I wonder what little goodies North Korea (and others) have in their laboratories too.

Buy your face masks and Tamiflu now!!!!!!
 
Tasmaniac said:
Going to be a plague sooner or later. I see there have been a handlful of SARS related deaths from the Persian Gulf countries recently.

With 7 Billion on the planet I'm confident we will survive as a species.

The damage from the panic could easily be greater that the disease itself.

I wonder what little goodies North Korea (and others) have in their laboratories too.

Buy your face masks and Tamiflu now!!!!!!
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no point getting tamilfu
 
Tasmaniac said:
Going to be a plague sooner or later. I see there have been a handlful of SARS related deaths from the Persian Gulf countries recently.

With 7 Billion on the planet I'm confident we will survive as a species.

The damage from the panic could easily be greater that the disease itself.

I wonder what little goodies North Korea (and others) have in their laboratories too.

Buy your face masks and Tamiflu now!!!!!!
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You work in the pharmaceutical industry don't you? Every year they bring out these scare tactics.
 
mantis said:
You work in the pharmaceutical industry don't you? Every year they bring out these scare tactics.
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mmm. A few years ago, I had the injection, then was nursing on a ward where I would daily be rostered to nurse swine flu patients.PPE was not sufficient, therefore I got Swine Flu. It was sure a very very unpleasant experience.
 

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campbell said:
mmm. A few years ago, I had the injection, then was nursing on a ward where I would daily be rostered to nurse swine flu patients.PPE was not sufficient, therefore I got Swine Flu. It was sure a very very unpleasant experience.
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All flu's are an unpleasant experience, but the pharmaceutical companies put out the pandemic scare to sell their expensive drugs. Yes some people die from the flu, but most of them have underlying health issues, so they are more susceptible.
 
mantis said:
All flu's are an unpleasant experience, but the pharmaceutical companies put out the pandemic scare to sell their expensive drugs. Yes some people die from the flu, but most of them have underlying health issues, so they are more susceptible.
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mmmm. I know of young people under 30 who were ventilated, no previous medical problems......Swine Flu last time it was here, was nt just unpleasant it was deadly.


and I heard tamiflu was resistant ,so not worth using nowdays.
 
campbell said:
mmmm. I know of young people under 30 who were ventilated, no previous medical problems......Swine Flu last time it was here, was nt just unpleasant it was deadly.


and I heard tamiflu was resistant ,so not worth using nowdays.
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Mostly resistant with N1 flus. Not resistant vs H3 or bird flus, still works.

Relenza still avoids resistance. I saved someone some extreme grief last last year with it. It works.

mantis said:
All flu's are an unpleasant experience, but the pharmaceutical companies put out the pandemic scare to sell their expensive drugs. Yes some people die from the flu, but most of them have underlying health issues, so they are more susceptible.
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I can't tell whether you are more ignorant, silly or stupid.
 
I'm a realist not an alarmist, who gets sucked into pharmaceutical companies propaganda to sell their expensive drugs.
 
mantis said:
All flu's are an unpleasant experience, but the pharmaceutical companies put out the pandemic scare to sell their expensive drugs.
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Bullshit


mantis said:
Yes some people die from the flu, but most of them have underlying health issues, so they are more susceptible.
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How do you explain the high proportion of young and healthy folk dying from swine flu? (vs old and health compromised ones)
 

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