Autopsy Sydney Vs Essendon Round 2. 2020

[zyzzbruh]

Are you sure skills can’t be learned at this level? Why have skills sessions at training then? Taylor Adams is one player who immediately comes to mind who couldn’t hit the side of a barn when traded and is now a very good kick.


On iPad using BigFooty.com mobile app

Imo any improvement at this level comes from improved composure. These blokes have been kicking and handling a footy since they could walk, so if they can't hit the side of a barn by now I hardly think they would with more practice.

Horse's plan was clear yesterday, move the ball forward quickly, hence the rushing and nerves from kids like Blakey Rowbottom at important moments. Their composure will improve. But there's a few blokes who have been in the system long enough that it's clear they're just hopeless with their hands and feet.

 

[RUNVS]

Imo any improvement at this level comes from improved composure. These blokes have been kicking and handling a footy since they could walk, so if they can't hit the side of a barn by now I hardly think they would with more practice.

Horse's plan was clear yesterday, move the ball forward quickly, hence the rushing and nerves from kids like Blakey Rowbottom at important moments. Their composure will improve. But there's a few blokes who have been in the system long enough that it's clear they're just hopeless with their hands and feet.

Disagree. The Swans moved the ball forward very slowly yesterday which is why every time we went forward there were 15 Essendon players in our defensive 50. I lost count of the amount of times our players would take a mark and instead of moving forward stopped and waited 15 seconds before passing it 15m to another Swan sideways, or even backwards.

 

[Kennedy Parker]

Mills is a strange case, he's in his 5th season and his stats are basically identical to his averages in his first season. For all of Heeney's faults he's at least been on the upward trajectory as the seasons go by.

You know what you're going to get from Mills and he's generally good in his role but it's hard to see what made him so highly rated in the draft.

 

[sataris]

it's hard to see what made him so highly rated in the draft.

Eddie's war on academies is the reason.

 

[Punts]

What did Mills do to you? You have had a rather strong dislike for him for years boarding on the Bedford completely unjustified dislike of McVeigh.

He stole my Ferrari now drives it like a b grade defender that he is

Overrated but let’s be honest he is no better L McDonald

 

[The King!]

Disagree. The Swans moved the ball forward very slowly yesterday which is why every time we went forward there were 15 Essendon players in our defensive 50. I lost count of the amount of times our players would take a mark and instead of moving forward stopped and waited 15 seconds before passing it 15m to another Swan sideways, or even backwards.

disagree, I thought we got back into the game attacking, we just dropped and fumbled or missed forward targets

even went down the corridor, couldn't fault the attempted game style yesterday imo

execution cost us

 

[The King!]

Mills a poor mans N Smith atm

He isn’t really a running defender either

whats the solution?

 

[Punts]

whats the solution?

Stop overrating him and thinking he is going to become some elite mid.

Leave him there and don’t expect much more

 

[The King!]

Stop overrating him and thinking he is going to become some elite mid.

Leave him there and don’t expect much more

agree with that

thought you wanted him delisted the way you were talking

he is a solid half back,

 

[zyzzbruh]

disagree, I thought we got back into the game attacking, we just dropped and fumbled or missed forward targets

even went down the corridor, couldn't fault the attempted game style yesterday imo

execution cost us

Yep, we were very fluid with our game play, didn't look like a one trick pony. The execution burnt us tho hence why horse was doing laps in the coaches box every 3 minutes, he knew we shouldve been well on top. If anything sometimes we attempted to go too quick for our own good which put it down the throat of hooker and hurley

 

[SwansProudly]

Match Review: Roo fined for striking, Swan's careless umpire contact

Two Match Review charges were laid from Sunday

www.afl.com.au

Luke Parker, Sydney Swans, has been charged with a second offence of Careless Contact with an Umpire during the third quarter of the Round Two match between the Sydney Swans and Essendon, played at the SCG on Sunday June 14.
In summary, he can accept a $750 sanction with an early plea.
Based on available evidence, the incident was assessed as Careless Contact with an Umpire. The incident was classified as a $1250 sanction as a second offence. The player can accept a $500 sanction with an early plea.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

One game back. Let's relax a little. Can't expect perfection from a young and inexperienced team.

Do you think our coaching personnel have the ability to bring out this young and inexperienced team's best?

 

[Kapanis]

Do you think our coaching personnel have the ability to bring out this young and inexperienced team's best?

Not sure do you?

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Man, this board and it's expectations...

Last year when we played every week and we lacked skill, fitness and cohesion. Now we play our second game in 10 months and we lose our minds because we lacked skill, fitness and cohesion.

But every team played their second game in 10 months.

Not disagreeing with much of your rant, but I don't get this point, which others have made too.

 

[SBD Gonzalez]

Not sure do you?

I have my doubts. If it's a fresh approach that is needed, I'm not sure their track record suggests they're that willing to adapt, and implement something new.

 

[Kapanis]

I have my doubts. If it's a fresh approach that is needed, I'm not sure their track record suggests they're that willing to adapt, and implement something new.

The general concensus on this board is Horse hasn't done anything new on many levels, I totally disagree. However, I think it's time for a change of coach. No idea if this group under John can do what's needed.

 

[RUNVS]

I have my doubts. If it's a fresh approach that is needed, I'm not sure their track record suggests they're that willing to adapt, and implement something new.

Agreed. When was the last time John Longmire developed a star player, and I mean a player that is top 10% in the competition? I am sure there are one or two but I can't personally think of any, and Longmire has been coach for 10 years now.

Maybe Rampe?

 

[S120]

Agreed. When was the last time John Longmire developed a star player, and I mean a player that is top 10% in the competition? I am sure there are one or two but I can't personally think of any, and Longmire has been coach for 10 years now.

Maybe Rampe?

I mean, what counts as Longmire having developed them?

Even the concept of the head coach taking responsibility for the development is a stretch to me, but are we saying which players have gone from not top 10% in their position to being top 10% during Longmire's coaching period?

 

[RUNVS]

I mean, what counts as Longmire having developed them?

Even the concept of the head coach taking responsibility for the development is a stretch to me, but are we saying which players have gone from not top 10% in their position to being top 10% during Longmire's coaching period?

Yes, pretty much that. I was thinking possibly Kennedy but a high portion of his development happened under Paul Roos.

Papley possibly. I think he would be top 10% as a small forward.

So perhaps Papley and Rampe? It isn't a big list for 10 years of coaching.

In saying that I could be forgetting someone.

 

[The King!]

Longmire was there with Roos the whole time though

he’s signed on, move on At least until round 7-8 surely

 

[Donza]

Yes, pretty much that. I was thinking possibly Kennedy but a high portion of his development happened under Paul Roos.

Papley possibly. I think he would be top 10% as a small forward.

So perhaps Papley and Rampe? It isn't a big list for 10 years of coaching.

In saying that I could be forgetting someone.

Not withstanding that JL is a head coach... and has one of the most expensive footy departments going around to "develop" players .

 

[Donza]

Longmire was there with Roos the whole time though

he’s signed on, move on At least until round 7-8 surely

Parker, Rampe, Hanners, KJ,McVeigh, Heeney, Mills, Nick Smith, Nick Malceski ...even Teddy richards and heath grundy!

 

[Kummerspeck]

Agreed. When was the last time John Longmire developed a star player, and I mean a player that is top 10% in the competition? I am sure there are one or two but I can't personally think of any, and Longmire has been coach for 10 years now.

Maybe Rampe?

Parker, Rampe, Kennedy and Hannebery have all played the vast majority of and had the best periods in their career under Longmire.

 

[RUNVS]

Parker, Rampe, Hanners, KJ,McVeigh, Heeney, Mills, Nick Smith, Nick Malceski ...even Teddy richards and heath grundy!

Most of whom were developed under Paul Roos, and there is no way Mills and Heeney are in the top 10% in the competition, and Parker is very boarderline.

 

[The King!]

Parker, Rampe, Hanners, KJ,McVeigh, Heeney, Mills, Nick Smith, Nick Malceski ...even Teddy richards and heath grundy!

well you can credit him with roos combined and give them okeefe bolton hall kirk etc etc

ive been a critic but not sure what we saw on the weekend to question horse on