TallTimberBailey Mock Draft 2011

[TallTimberBailey]

Now the Draft Order has finalised. Here is the rest of my Phanton Draft.

Have made a couple of changes.

National Draft

Round One
1. GWS – John Patton (KPF)
2. GWS – Stephen Conigilo (MID)
3. GWS – Dom Tyson (MID)
4. GWS – Billy Longer (RUCK)
5. GWS – Will Hoskin-Elliot (MID)
6. Port Adelaide – Chad Wingard (MID)
7. GWS – Matthew Buntine (DEF)
8. Brisbane Lions – Liam Sumner (MID)
9. GWS – Taylor Adams (MID)
10. GWS – Todd Elton (KPF)
11. GWS –Fraser McInness (KPD)
12. Brisbane Lions – Adam Tomilson (KPD)
13. GWS – Nick Haynes (MID)
14. GWS – Daniel Markworth (FWD)
15. Richmond – Elliot Kavanagh (MID)
16. Fremantle – Toby Greene (MID)
17. Western Bulldogs – Alex Forster (DEF)
18. North Melbourne – Sam Docherty (DEF)
19. Essendon – Devon Smith (MID)
20. Fremantle – Shane Kersten (KPF)
21. Sydney Swans - Tom Mitchell (F/S) (MID)
22. Carlton – Julian Dobosz (KPF)
23. West Coast – Zyrus (Waylen) Manson (KPF)
24. Gold Coast – Michael Talia (KPD)
25. St Kilda – Myles Bolger (RUCK)
26. Richmond – Mitchell Grigg (MID)
Priority selections
27. Adelaide – Andrew Boseley (KPD)
28. West Coast – Jordan Lockyer (KPD)
29. Fremantle – Brandon Ellis (DEF)

Uncontracted player compensation selection
30. Brisbane Lions – Henry Schade (KPD)

Round Two
31. Essendon – Sebastian Ross (MID)
32. Geelong – Hayden Crozier (MID)
33. Hawthorn – Murray Newman (FWD)
34. Geelong – Jackson Paine (KPF)
35. St Kilda – Sam Kerridge (MID)
36. Melbourne – Cameron Ellis-Yolmen (MID)
37. St Kilda – Sam Frost (KPD)
38. Hawthorn – Josh Waldhunter (MID)
39. Western Bulldogs – Nick Murphy (KPF)
40. North Melbourne – Fletcher Roberts (KPF)
41. Adelaide – Brad McKenzie (MID)
42. St Kilda – Kyal Horsely (MID)
43. Sydney Swans – Jack Newnes (MID)
44. Carlton – Haiden Schloithe (FWD)
45. Port Adelaide – Thomas Sheridan (MID)
46. Adelaide – Alex Woodward (MID)
47. Brisbane Lions - Mitch Brewer (RUCK)
48. Geelong – Brody Mihocek (KPD)

Round Three
49. Western Bulldogs – Clay Smith (MID)
50. Collingwood – Jackson Merrett (MID)
51. Port Adelaide – Tom Curran (KPF/D)
52. Melbourne – Shane Nelson (MID)
53. Hawthorn – Marley Williams (MID)
54. Melbourne – Josh Tynan (DEF)
55. Richmond – John McCarthy (MID)
56. GWS - Tom Downie (RUCK)
57. Western Bulldogs – Sam Gordon (KPF)
58. Fremantle – Simon Tunbridge (KPF)
59. Essendon – Brett O’Hanlan (FWD)
60. St Kilda – Bradley Hill (MID)
61. Sydney Swans – Michel Bussey (KPF/D)
62. Carlton – Dylan Buckley (F/S) (MID)
63. West Coast – Ashton Hams (rookie upgrade)**
64. Adelaide – Jordan Murdoch (FWD)
65. Collingwood – Jackson Coleman (KPF)
66. Geelong – Elliot Yeo (MID)

Round Four
67. Collingwood – Jarrod Witts (NSW) (RUCK)
68. St Kilda - Aaron Hall (FWD)
69. Brisbane Lions - Mitch Golby (rookie upgrade)**
70. Western Bulldogs –Luke Dalahaus (rookie uprade) **
71. Fremantle – Joshua Bootsma (DEF)
72. Fremantle - PASS
73. Western Bulldogs – Matthew Panos (rookie upgrade)**
74. North Melbourne - Cam Pedersen (rookie upgrade)**
75. Essendon - Stuart Crameri (rookie upgrade)**
76. St Kilda – Jason Blake (KPP)
77. Hawthorn - Luke Breust (rookie upgrade)**
78. Geelong - Jack Crisp (FWD)

Round Five
79. GWS – Cameron Valentine (FWD)
80. Gold Coast – Alik Mangin (rookie upgrade)**
81.Port Adelaide – PASS
82. Adelaide – Aiden Riley (rookie upgrade)**
83. Fremantle - Nick Lower (rookie upgrade)**
84. North Melbourne – Luke Delaney (rookie upgrade)**
85. Sydney – Nathan Gordon (rookie upgrade)**
86. Geelong – Jed Bews (F/S) (MID)

Round Six
87. GWS - Rick Ladson (MID)
88.Gold Coast – Jackson Allen (QLD ZONE)
89. Adelaide – Matt Wright (rookie upgrade)**
90. GWS – Paul Bevan (MID)
91. Gold Coast - Alex Sexton (QLD ZONE)

Pre-Season Draft:
1. Port Adelaide – Leon Davis
2. Fremantle – Zac Dawson

 

[benblinkau]

Would love ellis at 45 for port! Nice draft!

 

[Wrenny]

Good draft for Richmond! Dont think we'll go for a ruck with 55 will be a KP

 

[brewser]

Hope you are correct with Mitch Brewer at 47

 

[The_Bulldogs_Bite]

I can't see us taking Forster.

We need quality mids, preferably quick.

 

[Burns2008]

yeah that would be ok, i would be happy with the 2 jacksons

 

[dermott]

You should have let Patton and Coniglio slip to 33 and 38 respectively. Who do you barrack for?

 

[ilikepotatoes]

skipped pick 29

 

[Sin City]

Ellis at 45 hey. How come you've got him that low?

 

[yakka man]

skipped pick 29

29 is too the right, Murray Newman

Good draft for Freo, although I can't see us selecting Murray Newman with Hayden Crozier, Brandon Ellis and Shane Nelson. Also Frost and Paine.

 

[UpTheGuts]

Swap Downie for Kerridge or O'Hanlon and would be deliriously happy

 

[TallTimberBailey]

Ellis at 45 hey. How come you've got him that low?

Ellis turned out to be the slider.

Was looking at him with on of the Geelong picks and St Kilda picks.

Also considered @ North P.40 but had Docherty with there P.18.

I think he could be a good player.....great value @ p.45.

Also good value: Tom Sheridan @ p.51, Clay Smith p.58, Elliot Yeo p.66, Shane Nelson p.49

 

[cotter101]

Hope you are correct with Mitch Brewer at 47

So am I.

Its fair to say I rate him higher than other

 

[spotthedog1]

I would expect Buntine to go to the Lions at 8 if he is there... I think he's worth it, and Voss apparently rates the guy.

"(Brisbane coach) Michael Voss, who was watching, was taken aback by his ability to play the game."

Source:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/matthew-buntine-is-a-born-leader/story-fnau1fjg-1226183939445

Of course, as this has been published, I am now expecting GWS to take him at 5 or 7 so that Brisbane don't...

 

[cotter101]

I would expect Buntine to go to the Lions at 8 if he is there... I think he's worth it, and Voss apparently rates the guy.


Source:http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/matthew-buntine-is-a-born-leader/story-fnau1fjg-1226183939445

Of course, as this has been published, I am now expecting GWS to take him at 5 or 7 so that Brisbane don't...

Its up to Hadley who we pick, not Voss. Hadley has taken risks before and could do again.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Kerridge is too low.

Ellis at 45 surely won't happen.

Bussey's had a poor year for a guy with his talent, I'd be pretty disappointed with that pick.

We also need to focus on defenders and key defenders in particular, and another ruck possibly also.

If the draft went the way you've listed we'd probably take Ellis or Kerridge, Paine, Schade or maybe Downie, Yeo's fine value with the last.

 

[TallTimberBailey]

I would expect Buntine to go to the Lions at 8 if he is there... I think he's worth it, and Voss apparently rates the guy.


For me Pick 8 was best available: Sumner vs Buntine and i dont think Lions could pass up on Sumner. Will be a very good, quick midfielder!!!!

Add Tomilson @ p.12 - Key position Player and i highly rate brody Brody Mihocek from Tasi.

Mihocek could play a similar role to Buntine would. Both very good readers of the play. 3rd Tall in Defence.

Buntine - 189cm, 84 kg
Mihocek - 191cm, 86kg

 

[spotthedog1]

Its up to Hadley who we pick, not Voss. Hadley has taken risks before and could do again.

True, but at the same time, I'm sure Hadley, Kerr and Voss all sit down and discuss the clubs needs/wants. And if Voss says 'I like X and think he'd do well here', you'd think that'd bump him up their lists by a point or two...

 

[spotthedog1]

For me Pick 8 was best available: Sumner vs Buntine and i dont think Lions could pass up on Sumner. Will be a very good, quick midfielder!!!!

Add Tomilson @ p.12 - Key position Player and i highly rate brody Brody Mihocek from Tasi.

Mihocek could play a similar role to Buntine would. Both very good readers of the play. 3rd Tall in Defence.

Buntine - 189cm, 84 kg
Mihocek - 191cm, 86kg

See, that's why i love these phantom drafts - always interesting to see the differing opinions...

Personally, I agree - best available at 8... But I think Buntine is miles better than Sumner...

As I understand it, Mihocek will be a 3rd tall, playing similar to Staker's roll in Brisbane (primarily in the backs, but able to slot forward if necessary). Buntine is a half back who will end up running through the mids in a Goddard like role... Very different players in my books.

 

[Daz]

If we passed on Ellis and McKenzie @ pick 40 I'd probably put a brick through my TV.

 

[cotter101]

See, that's why i love these phantom drafts - always interesting to see the differing opinions...

Personally, I agree - best available at 8... But I think Buntine is miles better than Sumner...

As I understand it, Mihocek will be a 3rd tall, playing similar to Staker's roll in Brisbane (primarily in the backs, but able to slot forward if necessary). Buntine is a half back who will end up running through the mids in a Goddard like role... Very different players in my books.

Staker is ageing and wont play in 2012 and possibly some of 2013 and he will be close to 29 then. We have Lester,Karnezis Cornelius(Potential KPP) as our younger 3rd talls.

 

[TallTimberBailey]

Kerridge is too low.

Ellis at 45 surely won't happen.

If the draft went the way you've listed we'd probably take Ellis or Kerridge, Paine, Schade or maybe Downie, Yeo's fine value with the last.

I will be re-visiting my draft when Second List Lodgement is done with. Ellis & Kerridge will have to sneak up the order but not sure where.

With the first two geelong picks P.32, P34 i can see Crozier and Paine being very good additions to your FWD line with Steve J, Pods, Hawkins and Hopefully M.Brown if/when he can get fit.

Pure_Ownage - Geelong not interested in Crozier??

 

[spotthedog1]

Staker is ageing and wont play in 2012 and possibly some of 2013 and he will be close to 29 then. We have Lester,Karnezis Cornelius(Potential KPP) as our younger 3rd talls.

And Retzlaff and Lisle...

Don't see why this would prevent us from taking Buntine. We aren't exactly swimming in talls, but we've still got a few with ~5 years to go... and we don't have to get every need this draft - we can draft next year, and the year after, and so on... I think, no matter what, pick 8 has to be Best Available for the Lions... Buntine is a good half back/mid, who could be a leader for years. We could do with another half back, and the best other options are Docherty and Forster (both of whom we would be significantly overpaying with pick 12, and won't get at 30). It's solid, and suits us well...

I'm finding it interesting reading a lot of your posts Cotter... I differ quite heavily from your viewpoints... which is nothing against you - quite the opposite, I find it interesting seeing your thoughts, which i find original (oftentimes, these forums don't have a whole lot of that).

 

[cotter101]

And Retzlaff and Lisle...

Don't see why this would prevent us from taking Buntine. We aren't exactly swimming in talls, but we've still got a few with ~5 years to go... and we don't have to get every need this draft - we can draft next year, and the year after, and so on... I think, no matter what, pick 8 has to be Best Available for the Lions... Buntine is a good half back/mid, who could be a leader for years. We could do with another half back, and the best other options are Docherty and Forster (both of whom we would be significantly overpaying with pick 12, and won't get at 30). It's solid, and suits us well...

I'm finding it interesting reading a lot of your posts Cotter... I differ quite heavily from your viewpoints... which is nothing against you - quite the opposite, I find it interesting seeing your thoughts, which i find original (oftentimes, these forums don't have a whole lot of that).

Retzlaff ans Lisle are most likely to become KP players if anything, I was talking about Brodie Michoeck.(I would heavily consider Buntine at 8 if he was there)

Forster and Docherty I would rate close to of just above Buntine. I have Forster going at 12 to us, I have no problem going best available at 8.

I am actually finding yours fairly interesting to, and seem to disagree with most of them, Every person has their own opinion and that's what we are doing. Also nothing against you.

 

[spotthedog1]

Retzlaff ans Lisle are most likely to become KP players if anything, I was talking about Brodie Michoeck.(I would heavily consider Buntine at 8 if he was there)

Forster and Docherty I would rate close to of just above Buntine. I have Forster going at 12 to us, I have no problem going best available at 8.

I am actually finding yours fairly interesting to, and seem to disagree with most of them, Every person has their own opinion and that's what we are doing. Also nothing against you.

Ah, in that case, no issue at all. I rate Mihocek too, and would be happy with him at 30... he is a reasonable chance to get there, so could be a good pick up for us...

Wouldn't be happy with Forster at 12 though...