Mega Thread The 2017 'Buckley's Chances' Thread

[Leviathan Pie]

Maybe it's time to make Collingwood Great Again

Big Don for Collingwood President 2018.

 

[Countrypie]

Big Don for Collingwood President 2018.

In my opinion there will be no positive change until Ed goes

 

[doodles98]

No, you were trying to put words into his mouth by suggesting that the "it's all about the cattle" comment denied development. Any clear thinking individual would naturally assume the cattle develop. Happy for you to point me to the premiership team where the cattle were compiled in a year and didn't have years of development in the squad as a case in point where they don't.

mate, take it to the farming thread ffs!

 

[Matt_352]

If Ed is smart he will sack Nath as if he doesent and Bucks fails again next year then Ed would have to fall on his sword as well.

 

[Countrypie]

If Ed is smart he will sack Nath as if he doesent and Bucks fails again next year then Ed would have to fall on his sword as well.

Actually if Ed had guts they both go together. Simple. If you think everything is solved by BUckley leaving you're dreaming.

 

[Matt_352]

Actually if Ed had guts they both go together. Simple. If you think everything is solved by BUckley leaving you're dreaming.

Whole place needs to be cleaned out

 

[Countrypie]

Whole place needs to be cleaned out

Maybe.
I'm just a member who goes to the footy occassionally.
What would I know ?

 

[Matt_352]

Maybe.
I'm just a member who goes to the footy occassionally.
What would I know ?

Who knows

 

[jmac70]

Ed has two years left on his term and won't be going anywhere. Unless you have voting rights and are prepared to get the numbers needed to force the issue, you will just have to accept that.
Personally I think Ed deserves the opportunity to see out his term.

 

[Help My Club]

If Ed is smart he will sack Nath as if he doesent and Bucks fails again next year then Ed would have to fall on his sword as well.

I've said a number of times of late that the greatest risk to McGuire's presidency is to reappoint Buckley. So it will be fascinating to see how this pans out.

Personally if reappointing Buckley results in McGuire's presidency being at greater risk, then by all means, reappoint him.

However the counter is that even if Buckley fails again next year, McGuire may still find a way to squirm his way out of trouble. After all, some 12 months ago, who in their right mind would have thought that Buckley would be extended beyond 2017 after missing the finals again. Both Buckley and McGuire are cats.

 

[Help My Club]

Ed has two years left on his term and won't be going anywhere. Unless you have voting rights and are prepared to get the numbers needed to force the issue, you will just have to accept that.
Personally I think Ed deserves the opportunity to see out his term.

Again that word deserves!

 

[Matt_352]

I've said a number of times of late that the greatest risk to McGuire's presidency is to reappoint Buckley. So it will be fascinating to see how this pans out.

Personally if reappointing Buckley results in McGuire's presidency being at greater risk, then by all means, reappoint him.

However the counter is that even if Buckley fails again next year, McGuire may still find a way to squirm his way out of trouble. After all, some 12 months ago, who in their right mind would have thought that Buckley would be extended beyond 2017 after missing the finals again. Both Buckley and McGuire are cats.

Praying and crossing everything that Dew or Ratts are coach after rnd 23

 

[jmac70]

Again that word deserves!

Well, he does. His service to the club gives him that right.

 

[Help My Club]

Well, he does. His service to the club gives him that right.

Each to their own mate and you are well within your rights to have such an opinion.

As for me, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the terms "deserves" and "gives him that right" given where he (and others) have taken the club over the past 6 years. But that's just me.

 

[jmac70]

Each to their own mate and you are well within your rights to have such an opinion.

As for me, I'm a bit uncomfortable with the terms "deserves" and "gives him that right" given where he (and others) have taken the club over the past 6 years. But that's just me.

I'm not happy about where we are at either but Ed is not up for election so there is little point discussing his position.

 

[Help My Club]

I'm not happy about where we are at either but Ed is not up for election so there is little point discussing his position.

He is never up for election if we can be brutally candid, if you know what I mean. And therein lies the problem.

In my humble opinion, notwithstanding he is not up for election, there is always a point in discussing his position as he, along with others, should always be held to account. And whilst it may nor result in immediate action, it may result in a mindset shift out there over time which may lead to appropriate change in time.

 

[Matt_352]

Dear Santa Ive been good. All I want is a brand new coach. Stewie Dew thanks Santa.

 

[VicPark Bitter]

would buck's demise signal the end for Ed as well?

McGuire is indelibly linked to Buckley's coaching tenure.
the succession plan has become an albatross around McGuire's neck.
McGuire is torn between doing what he thinks is in the best interests of the Collingwood footy club or
trying to save his own legacy.

 

[noideaatall]

Ed has two years left on his term and won't be going anywhere. Unless you have voting rights and are prepared to get the numbers needed to force the issue, you will just have to accept that.
Personally I think Ed deserves the opportunity to see out his term.

I was hoping Ed would announce this would be his last term, feared he might have delusions of grandeur though. If this forum is any gauge of Collingwood supporters/members then the tide has really turned against him over the last 12 months. Much is speculation though and, except for his comment for being the only one with vision on the coaching matter, he hasn't done a great deal wrong over this period. I would have no less than he should support Bucks throughout his term, which he has done. The decision as to who coaches the pies next year is critical though and I agree with others who have posted that resigning Buckley pretty much puts his head on the block too. What I wouldn't like to see is some massive clean out of the board/president/club staff. I agree with jmac70, Ed deserves the opportunity to see out his term.

 

[piepark]

I have a feeling the 'review' will potentially state the following things:

1) Club governance and football departments could have been better managed therefore Bucks hasn't been able to perform to the best of his abilities. So after the review the club will say everything will be fixed behind the scenes and Bucks probably gets a 2 year extension with a new supporting structure around him (Admin and Football Departments);

OR

2) Review has created a big brand new position called Director of Football coaches or something that sounds important to encompass Netball, Mens Football and Womens football. Bucks is offered this important job so as to effectively 'look after him' rather than see him leave. Then the senior job becomes vacant and Bucks is involved in the recruitment of the new coach which will probably be Roosy or someone else?

These are just my thoughts and like most people I have no knowledge of what is going to happen, I am just speculating.

What I do know is you don't start 'organisational' reviews unless you know the outcome. No business will surrender the future of their organisation to a 'review' without knowing where it is going to finish.

 

[Help My Club]

Dear Santa Ive been good. All I want is a brand new coach. Stewie Dew thanks Santa.

Young Matt

Santa will consult with big Ed and get back to you. No guarantees though young fella.

 

[jmac70]

He is never up for election if we can be brutally candid, if you know what I mean. And therein lies the problem.

In my humble opinion, notwithstanding he is not up for election, there is always a point in discussing his position as he, along with others, should always be held to account. And whilst it may nor result in immediate action, it may result in a mindset shift out there over time which may lead to appropriate change in time.

I highly doubt that discussion such as this will result in any change. When his terms finishes he may well be challenged based on results, of course if our fortunes improve he will no doubt stand unopposed again. The reality is that the vast majority of Collingwood members support his position as president.

 

[jmac70]

I was hoping Ed would announce this would be his last term, feared he might have delusions of grandeur though. If this forum is any gauge of Collingwood supporters/members then the tide has really turned against him over the last 12 months. Much is speculation though and, except for his comment for being the only one with vision on the coaching matter, he hasn't done a great deal wrong over this period. I would have no less than he should support Bucks throughout his term, which he has done. The decision as to who coaches the pies next year is critical though and I agree with others who have posted that resigning Buckley pretty much puts his head on the block too. What I wouldn't like to see is some massive clean out of the board/president/club staff. I agree with jmac70, Ed deserves the opportunity to see out his term.

I'm not convinced members have turned against him, at least that's not the vibe I am getting from other social club members.

 

[Frank Gallagher]

Fact is being an AFL coach is a performance based, if you don't get the results you get replaced, many coaches have been sacked with better records than Buckley, i can forgive 2014 and 2015 because we were clearly rebuilding, but not only haven't we improved 2 years on from 2015 we've continued to decline, he needs to go now, if the board agrees to an extension it will confirm what most of us already know, and that's the board are simply Ed's hand puppets.

 

[CFC2010]

The disrespect for Eddie on this thread is rivalling that for Bucks.

Dear mods please ban me permantely from this thread and the one for Bucks in 2018......this time don't lift my ban like someone did this year.