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Game Day The 2025 Draft Day Thread

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And a song to sing as we watch,

Hey Matty Clarke by Kevin (Random260) Wilson :

Hey Matty Clarke you campaigner, where the **** is Sharp
I’ve looked at all these other spuds and there’s no one that I like
I wrote you a ****ing letter and posted about it twice
You dopey ****ing Richmond fart, you forgot my ****ing Sharp

If I wanted a stupid ruckman type, I would’ve bloody asked
And this half back flank and temu mid, you can shove right up your arse
You’ve stuffed the bloody order up, it’s enough to make you spew
But it’s not just me who’s snakey, SGIO is dirty too

Next time I come to see ya, I’m going to punch you in the guts
And I’ll sack the other recruiting knobs and kick Toddy in the nuts
You just wait 'til next year when you go back to the draft
And me and me little GIO come stomping through the door
And we'll say, yeah, you wait for it

Hey Pyke and Woosh you smell his breath
And check his bloodshot eyes
And don't listen to him eagles fans 'cause he tells ****ing lies
He's just a ****ing useless campaigner and he's not even very bright
'Cause the stupid ****in' w***er, forgot me ****in' Sharp

Hey Matty Clarke you campaigner, where the **** is Sharp
I’ve looked at all these other spuds and there’s no one that I like
I wrote you a ****ing letter and posted about it twice
You dopey ****ing Richmond fart, you forgot my ****ing Sharp
A Quick Ai rendition: https://suno.com/s/blQP3cSnulhqYb5g
It's funny how it interrupted the lyrics XD
 
WC's trading dept may f××k up more than they should, but their drafting guys have shown over the last few years they know what they are doing
Have they though? Excluding Harley, the most unanimous #1 pick in history, since the flag we’ve nailed Hough at 31 and Shanahan at 30 and that’s it.

Archer Reid may still show to be a great pick but even then the counter argument is Logan Morris with the very next pick.
 
Have they though? Excluding Harley, the most unanimous #1 pick in history, since the flag we’ve nailed Hough at 31 and Shanahan at 30 and that’s it.

Archer Reid may still show to be a great pick but even then the counter argument is Logan Morris with the very next pick.
They had f**k all to play with 19 and 20. Chesser will prove OKbut with someone else, Ginbey's been great, Hewitt has talent as all have seen, 23 was a great draft and 24 is too early to tell.
Burgiel is the only miss and there was stuff all after him.

So stop.posting shit/rubbish
 

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They had f**k all to play with 19 and 20. Chesser will prove OKbut with someone else, Ginbey's been great, Hewitt has talent as all have seen, 23 was a great draft and 24 is too early to tell.
Burgiel is the only miss and there was stuff all after him.

So stop posting rubbish
Challenging a statement with little to no evidence to support it is not posting rubbish.

Before this period we’ve shown a great ability to identify talent late so saying we had “f**k all” in 19 and 20 doesn’t excuse the fact that precisely 0 of 11 of those players remain on the list. Gov, Barrass, Cox were all great late/rookie selections in times gone by.

Chesser did not deliver what we would have expected when drafted, Ginbey has been good, HewEtt has shown glimpses but they also cost pick 2 and I wouldn’t say 23 was a “great” draft given the preface of the post excluded Harley who blind Freddie would have picked.
 
Probably a silly idea but:

To get rid if the bids and garbage, I would give every club access to pre-list one club tied player per season. We could have added Williams, GC get Uwland or Patterson etc.

The draft goes back to 18 picks per round. Free agency compo or assistance packages may result in the chance to pre-list a second player.

And tighten up the academy rules so players are being developed, if they aren't in the academy by their 16th birthday then they are in the open pool.
 
Have they though? Excluding Harley, the most unanimous #1 pick in history, since the flag we’ve nailed Hough at 31 and Shanahan at 30 and that’s it.

Archer Reid may still show to be a great pick but even then the counter argument is Logan Morris with the very next pick.
Still a bit early to say whether we have nailed picks or not from 2023 until now. Ginbey we nailed. Harley still a question mark imo
 
Challenging a statement with little to no evidence to support it is not posting rubbish.

Before this period we’ve shown a great ability to identify talent late so saying we had “f**k all” in 19 and 20 doesn’t excuse the fact that precisely 0 of 11 of those players remain on the list. Gov, Barrass, Cox were all great late/rookie selections in times gone by.

Chesser did not deliver what we would have expected when drafted, Ginbey has been good, HewEtt has shown glimpses but they also cost pick 2 and I wouldn’t say 23 was a “great” draft given the preface of the post excluded Harley who blind Freddie would have picked.

Our drafting has been very good recently.

Hough, Williams, Ginbey, Hewett, Long, A.Reid, C.Hall, Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis all likely go higher if redrafts were done today
 
Our drafting has been very good recently.

Hough, Williams, Ginbey, Hewett, Long, A.Reid, C.Hall, Shanahan, Gross, Grego, Davis all likely go higher if redrafts were done today
Hough and Shanahan as I said absolutely agree. Perhaps some of the others go higher but wouldn't call them nailed picks. As expected or slightly exceeded expectations sure there’s a couple, but not nailed. There’s also plenty that go lower.
 
Interested to hear more about this, top 11 were very strong but can’t say even in hindsight I’d rather someone else on the list, or the pick splits.
Question marks for me are his professionalism and whether he'll be better than the collective output of Curtin, Langford and whoever else we take with pick 11 in 2023
 
BZ the club defender like at you go. I think you just like taking the piss. Are you a Docker supporter deep down? Old South boy? Loved Old East?
I'm not even 'defending' the decisions made, considering I said numerous times I'd also have moved Cripps on for Banfield.

Some people are too emotional about missing out on a kid at the end of the draft to notice that though.
 

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So what have I missed?

According to AFL.com.au's complete list of INS and OUTS,
we have added 8 players and lost 10. I can make that work by filling two spots with LTI additions (were they Maric and Brock?) but what happened to our 4 additional rookie spots?
Didn't we have a bunch of other club discards training on with us?
Were they automatically added? Were we pre-committed to them? Did I imagine the whole thing?
If they were added why weren't they on the AFL list?
 
Hough and Shanahan as I said absolutely agree. Perhaps some of the others go higher but wouldn't call them nailed picks. As expected or slightly exceeded expectations sure there’s a couple, but not nailed.
If that’s the bar, fine me the club that has “nailed” as many/more picks outside 30 since 2021?

Most clubs don’t have 1.

Bulldogs, Saints and WC have clearly been the best performed since then.

I’d say being at worse top 3 in that period gives a fair indication they know what they’re doing.
 
So what have I missed?

According to AFL.com.au's complete list of INS and OUTS,
we have added 8 players and lost 10. I can make that work by filling two spots with LTI additions (were they Maric and Brock?) but what happened to our 4 additional rookie spots?
Didn't we have a bunch of other club discards training on with us?
Were they automatically added? Were we pre-committed to them? Did I imagine the whole thing?
If they were added why weren't they on the AFL list?

They're being added on Monday when the SSP window opens.
 

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So did we keep a spot open for a train on?

Nope.

We have a Cat B spot unfilled after deciding not to list Walley. Unsure if we can fill it now other than with some random Irishman or US basketballer

So what have I missed?

According to AFL.com.au's complete list of INS and OUTS,
we have added 8 players and lost 10. I can make that work by filling two spots with LTI additions (were they Maric and Brock?) but what happened to our 4 additional rookie spots?
Didn't we have a bunch of other club discards training on with us?
Were they automatically added? Were we pre-committed to them? Did I imagine the whole thing?
If they were added why weren't they on the AFL list?

List doesn’t include the three DFAs we’ll add on Monday

McGovern and Sheed listed as ours but they were effectively replaced by McCarthy and Newton
 
If that’s the bar, fine me the club that has “nailed” as many/more picks outside 30 since 2021?

Most clubs don’t have 1.

Bulldogs, Saints and WC have clearly been the best performed since then.

I’d say being at worse top 3 in that period gives a fair indication they know what they’re doing.
It’s not just the over 30 picks, it’s all picks other than the ones I’ve mentioned. Anyway, there’s a thread for retrospective picks now.
 
It’s not just the over 30 picks, it’s all picks other than the ones I’ve mentioned. Anyway, there’s a thread for retrospective picks now.
Over 30 picks is the best way to assess a clubs ability to rank players, given not everyone can have access to Harley Reid.

I’d like you to refute the statement that since 2021 the eagles haven’t drafted well and justify it.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs

Click on the clubs, find me the teams that have drafted better outside 30.
 
Over 30 picks is the best way to assess a clubs ability to rank players, given not everyone can have access to Harley Reid.

I’d like you to refute the statement that since 2021 the eagles haven’t drafted well and justify it.

https://www.draftguru.com.au/clubs

Click on the clubs, find me the teams that have drafted better outside 30.
That’s absurd. If we ranked Phoenix Gothard at #1 and took him instead of Harley I think it’s fair to say that would demonstrate an inability to rank players.

In regard to your request as I said, we’ve nailed two, maybe three picks where to date they have shown far more than could be expected but feel free to sift through draft guru yourself.
 

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