The Australian Uncapped XI

[Blue Dimension]

What exactly has Hughes done to justify this....

...getting A-team selection?...

Hrmmmm

He's a very classy opener, young, and has come into the scene last domestic season scoring quite well.

What exactly has Nick Jewell done to justify his selection from some of you? That would be a more relevant question.

 

[LondonCalling]

Hrmmmm

He's a very classy opener, young, and has come into the scene last domestic season scoring quite well.

What exactly has Nick Jewell done to justify his selection from some of you? That would be a more relevant question.

It's barely plausible that he's got A-team selection. It makes sense to give him a go, given he's that young, and had some decent wraps on him from u/19 level, but otherwise, he hasn't set the world on fire at first class level.

Nick Jewell's at least consistently been around for a few years now, consistently eeked out 1000 run seasons at first class level without looking too flash (usually overshadowed by Hodge, Hussey and White), has the maturity on his side, and still has a fair bit of upside to him.

 

[Chris25]

What exactly has Hughes done to justify this, other than his ton in the Shield final that came on the back of better innings from better teammates?

Has he made double figures since getting A-team selection?

Well he has averaged 43.64 in 10 matches. That's pretty impressive for 19 year old. Compare that to the 31 year old Jewell's 38.29 in 41 matches. So Hughes is younger and averaging more. I know Hughes hasn't played as many matches, but seriously Jewell is 31. Maybe we should look to the future?

Oh and since getting A-team selection, he has played one game. You don't make judgments on just one game, when you do that suddenly someone like Jewell starts getting talked about.

 

[LondonCalling]

Well he has averaged 43.64 in 10 matches. That's pretty impressive for 19 year old. Compare that to the 31 year old Jewell's 38.29 in 41 matches. So Hughes is younger and averaging more. I know Hughes hasn't played as many matches, but seriously Jewell is 31. Maybe we should look to the future?

Oh and since getting A-team selection, he has played one game. You don't make judgments on just one game, when you do that suddenly someone like Jewell starts getting talked about.

You forgot the A-team test series, where he averaged 16 in 3 innings (48 runs, with 43 coming in one innings)

I agree with the sentiment that we should look to the future, and so far, in doing so, he hasn't shown enough to justify why we've chosen him as the future.

 

[Chris25]

Remember this is the uncapped team. Jaques, Katich, Marsh and Watson, and maybe even Rogers, would all be ahead of him at the moment. But of the remaining opening batsmen in the country, Hughes is at the top of the list.

And I would say that his stats show why he has been chosen for the future. He had one average Australia A series, so? He is averaging 43 at FC level, and in 3 innings against Pakistan in the U-19's he scored 324 runs.

 

[LondonCalling]

One average A series, and been pretty abysmal in his 3 domestic games (both forms of the game so far) so far as well.

6 games, and only one halfway respectable knock.

Surely there's better prospects his age though.

 

[Chris25]

145 not out so far. Is that good enough for you?

 

[LondonCalling]

Was wondering when/if someone would say anything.

Yeah, fair knock this.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

Was wondering when/if someone would say anything.

Yeah, fair knock this.

Bad timing for you.

 

[mayhem20202]

Nick Jewell's at least consistently been around for a few years now, consistently eeked out 1000 run seasons at first class level without looking too flash

1000 run seasons?? I don't think so. 742, 694 in his last 2 seasons. There is a big gulf between 700 and 1000. That is a difference of 20 runs to your average.

 

[Gunnar Longshanks]

The Uncapped Test XI has taken a bit of a battering this summer.

Bollinger, Siddle and McDonald are now out of the mix.

 

[happy_eagle]

Test side
Hughes
Marsh
Klinger
D.Hussey
M.North
Butterworth
Paine
Magoffin
Nannes
Hilfenhaus
Mcgain

 

[The Passenger]

pretty tough to do a team. not going to bother with one-dayers as most guys get a go at some stage or another.

Phil Hughes
Michael Klinger
Marcus North
David Hussey
Luke Pomersbach
Dominic Thornely
Luke Ronchi
Ashley Noffke
Steve Magoffin
Bryce McGain
Ben Hilfenhaus

there is plenty of depth in the bowling - Nannes, McKay, Denton, Wright, Dorey all back ups...

EDIT: In - Ronchi, Out - Paine (oversight)

 

[LondonCalling]

Hughes
Klinger
North
Hussey
Pomersbach
Voges
Ronchi
Noffke
Magoffin
McGain
Hilfenhaus
12th: Ferguson

 

[Miguel Sanchez]

If that team was ever to play, the WA side would be decimated.

You could even make a case for Sean Marsh over Klinger.

I think Paine has gone past Ronchi though.

 

[Cotchin 9]

Hughes
Klinger
North
Hussey
Pomersbach
Voges
Ronchi
Noffke
Magoffin
McGain
Hilfenhaus
12th: Ferguson

Why Pomersbach? Done shit all this Season except that innings in Adelaide.

 

[dont bowl there]

Pomersbach would easily be the most overrated player in domestic cricket.

 

[saintsownthedome]

Pomersbach is playing for the WA 2nd XI this week. Probably a fair way from the Australian T20 Team.

 

[oc37]

pretty tough to do a team. not going to bother with one-dayers as most guys get a go at some stage or another.

Phil Hughes
Michael Klinger
Marcus North
David Hussey
Luke Pomersbach
Dominic Thornely
Luke Ronchi
Ashley Noffke
Steve Magoffin
Bryce McGain
Ben Hilfenhaus

there is plenty of depth in the bowling - Nannes, McKay, Denton, Wright, Dorey all back ups...

EDIT: In - Ronchi, Out - Paine (oversight)

Has Noffke played a test?
anyway
Batsmen
Player 2008 average Career
Phil Hughes 56.15 53.48
Michael Klinger 90.60 36.39
Marcus North 44.09 44.23
David Hussey 37.25 54.75
Nick Jewell 41.88 37.37
Dominic Thornely 42.81 43.01
Tim Paine 34.02 31.04

2008 wickets career average
Bowlers
Ryan Harris 27 wickets 32.98
Dirk Nannes 28 wkts 24.54
Brett Geeves 25 34.57
Ben Hilfenhaus 25 29.13


I have ruled McGain and Noffke out with injury

 

[LondonCalling]

Don't forget Paine's no longer in the Tassie FC team either. His ODD form is disgraceful, but Pomersbach hasn't been completely awful in the FC arena.

 

[goodie]

carseldine maybe?

 

[BOMBERSG8]

Hughes
Klinger
Carseldine
D. Hussey
Quiney
North
Ronchi
Harwood
Magoffin
Harris
McGain

 

[The Governor]

Here is myUncapped Test XI

Phillip Hughes
Aaron Finch
Michael Klinger
David Hussey
Marcus North
Moses Henriques
Tim Paine (WK)
Stephen Smith
James Pattinson
Josh Hazzelwood
Dirk Nannes

It is amazing that Aaron Finch cannot get a game for Victoria. HE is the best young right hand top to middle order batsman since Michael Clarke and Ricky Ponting to have graduated from the Centre of Excellence in Brisbane and the Victorian selectors cannot give him a game.

Australian cricket is at a worrying state. NSW, South Australia and Tasmania are playing the youngsters whist Greg Shipperd is continuing to ignore Aaron Finch, Michael Hill and Aiden Bizzard in the 4 day form of the game.

Would not Australian cricket be in a better state if Victoria plays Michael Hill, Aaron Finch, James Pattinson and Aiden Bizzard in the four day game and give them some slack. THey will fail but if the selectors pick them and stick by them, they will develop into good players.

When was the last time Victoria blooded young players into the shield side and benefitted from the exercise? From 1981 to 1985, Ian Redpath decided to gamble on the following:

Dean Jones, Merv Hughes, TOny Dodemaide, Michael Dimmatina, Simon Davis, Simon O'Donnell and Paul Pistol Reiffel.

These young players represented Australia at One Day, Test and Australia A level.

And, it took 2 to 5 years for that crop of players to wear the Baggy Green test cap or Australian One Day International cap.

I think it is about time for Cricket Australia to hold a meeting with all state coaches and give them the incentive to play young players for the long term benefit of Australian cricket.

At the moment, I am struggling to name an Uncapped XI with the best 18 to 23 year olds who have not played test cricket.

THE GOVERNOR

 

[happy_eagle]

They are still at Grade cricket, its not like they are missing out of cricket altogether

Who would you drop from the victorian side for these players
Blizzard in the 4 day comp. Please he cant even crack the one day side because of his "hit and get out" aproach

Rogers
Jewell
Hodge
Hussey
White
Mcdonald
Croswaithe
Wright
Mcgain
Harwood
Nannes

None of those players deserve to be dropped

 

[fraser25]

Don't forget Paine's no longer in the Tassie FC team either.

Missed the last match due to injury IIRC.