Doomsday/Prophecies The Bible - signs of the end

[tb_fanboy]

http://www.endoftheworldprophecy.com/fulfilledprophecy.asp#rumorsofwars

The worlds biggest religion is pointing to the end. I strongly believe the second coming is close, but I have no idea.

 

[Chief]

I strongly believe a thread is heading to QT.

 

[The rabbi]

http://www.endoftheworldprophecy.com/fulfilledprophecy.asp#rumorsofwars

The worlds biggest religion is pointing to the end. I strongly believe the second coming is close, but I have no idea.

Yep, seen it all before.

"But of that day and hour no one knows, no not even the angels in heaven, but my Father only. Matthew" 24:36

"It is not for you to know the times or seasons which the Father has put in his own authority." Acts 1:7

This stuff has been around since Adam. It represents one extreme section of Christianity and this article does not even identify it's author or who it represents.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Yeah nah. All these 'prophecies' show is that this kinda thing has been going on for at least 2 thousand years lol.

 

[Hodgepodge]

Yep, seen it all before.

Was he wearing Hypercolor?

 

[The rabbi]

I wonder if they will have the courage to be driving this car on the 22nd of May.

 

[LIONOFZION]

I wonder if they will have the courage to be driving this car on the 22nd of May.

I'm hoping The Lord can bring it forward by a couple of weeks as I'm being audited on the 13th.

Not to worry, God has a habit of making fools out of wannabe-prophets.

 

[Evil Pleb]

Just as in the days of Noah, the vast majority will take no note until it's upon them. Only then will they believe that God exists. The current events occuring on an unprecedented scale are foretold in the bible, but prophecies are mocked and ignored. By the time that the unbelievers finally believe, it'll be too late for them to have a change of heart, for at that time they will be acutely aware that their existence is about to end.

Interesting coincidence is that the contemporaries of Noah laughed, mocked and ignored him before the global flood, and it seems that just like the people of those days, people today take no note and have a similar attitude. There's no wondering why God will justly destroy such people. Good ridance.

 

[Suspense]

yep

 

[Monniehawk]

Just as in the days of Noah, the vast majority will take no note until it's upon them. Only then will they believe that God exists. The current events occuring on an unprecedented scale are foretold in the bible, but prophecies are mocked and ignored. By the time that the unbelievers finally believe, it'll be too late for them to have a change of heart, for at that time they will be acutely aware that their existence is about to end.

Interesting coincidence is that the contemporaries of Noah laughed, mocked and ignored him before the global flood, and it seems that just like the people of those days, people today take no note and have a similar attitude. There's no wondering why God will justly destroy such people. Good ridance.

There does seem to be an inordinate amount of time as well as the number of 'doomsday prophets' between Noah and 2011. The doom-sayers have been very active throughout millennia and, given that nothing is forever, the imminent destruction of the earth will be proven correct at some time.
The point being that even the scriptures state emphatically that we will not know exactly when. They only give some general idea of events that precede the Rapture, and that is so general as to be almost useless. History is littered with periods of such mayhem and literally millions of cranks have seeped into the streets (mis)interpreting these definitive 'signs' of the end of times. If people today claim to have anything more concrete, then like their predecessors, they are almost certainly mentally pleasuring themselves.
Re: the highlighted text.
For your sake, I do hope you are authorised to speak for your god and that you can justify to him why you are so gleeful at the thought of his creations being destroyed - according to your own wishes!
I mean, is it really god who wants this to happen or your just own thoughts usurping those of your god?

 

[John]

 

[Evil Pleb]

There does seem to be an inordinate amount of time as well as the number of 'doomsday prophets' between Noah and 2011. The doom-sayers have been very active throughout millennia and, given that nothing is forever, the imminent destruction of the earth will be proven correct at some time.
The point being that even the scriptures state emphatically that we will not know exactly when. They only give some general idea of events that precede the Rapture, and that is so general as to be almost useless. History is littered with periods of such mayhem and literally millions of cranks have seeped into the streets (mis)interpreting these definitive 'signs' of the end of times. If people today claim to have anything more concrete, then like their predecessors, they are almost certainly mentally pleasuring themselves.
Re: the highlighted text.
For your sake, I do hope you are authorised to speak for your god and that you can justify to him why you are so gleeful at the thought of his creations being destroyed - according to your own wishes!
I mean, is it really god who wants this to happen or your just own thoughts usurping those of your god?

Funny to me is that the bible says that people will respond how you've done. That people will say that things will go on just as they've always done. So your response is typical and unsurprising.

My wishes are for the bible's promised peace that will come once the wicked and ungodly are destroyed.

I don't speak for God, but the bible does say that those who don't know God and those that don't obey God, will be destroyed. So whether I take delight or not in seeing the earth rid of people who disobey, hate or simply do not know God is irrelevant because destruction is very soon to come upon such ones whether they acknowledge it or not. For such destruction upon the wicked is part of God's plan to fix the problems on the earth.

So, I stick by my comment of good riddance, because while I wish that people would take heed and therefore remain alive, it's already prophesied that that's not going to be the case. So if those ones who don't want to listen get destroyed, good riddance.
The bible says that God wants no creation to be destroyed, but all to attain repentance, so as to continue living. But, the bible indicates that the vast majority will not obey God and therefore will be destroyed for the sake of God's Kingdom and the righteous ones. Does not the bible say that those who're not for God are against Him.

EDIT add: Whilst the bible says that no-one knows the day nor the hour, it does describe the conditions of the time in which the end is to occur. If you understood Revelation, you'd understand why some national and international political events are occurring at this time too, and how it relates to the coming end of Earthly Demonic rule.

 

[Niximus]

Pleb, with all these 'signs' what is the latest date you would expect this by?
The end of the year? two years? Forty years?

 

[Monniehawk]

Funny to me is that the bible says that people will respond how you've done. That people will say that things will go on just as they've always done. So your response is typical and unsurprising.

So is that one!

My wishes are for the bible's promised peace that will come once the wicked and ungodly are destroyed.

There are 144,000 remaining as "the remnant", according to some interpretations of Revelations. You plan to be amongst them with your attitude?

I don't speak for God, but the bible does say that those who don't know God and those that don't obey God, will be destroyed.

Oh! But you do! Your comments are beyond proselytising.

Does not the bible say that those who're not for God are against Him.

No. That is a misinterpretation of Luke. It was Christ who spoke regarding following Jesus. He offered a similar ultimatum that you outline.
But then that opens another argument of whether Christ is God....
....and literalistic interpretations of the Bible.

EDIT add: Whilst the bible says that no-one knows the day nor the hour, it does describe the conditions of the time in which the end is to occur. If you understood Revelation, you'd understand why some national and international political events are occurring at this time too, and how it relates to the coming end of Earthly Demonic rule

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I pointed that out, yet you are adamant that we are within that region. This has been repeated throughout the aeons, with the same conviction and the same fervour! One can only muse on the relative timelines - a day a month a millennium, or even more.
If your god is one of fear, you're welcome to him.
Millions have chosen other concepts of their deity.

 

[rayven]

JW's have claimed various times and each date has passed without consequence.........

However I read somewhere recently to watch for something happening on the 19th of this month...rekon that was when the UN legalised war against libya?

China and Russia are old foes seem not to be supporting that, an old enemy of both (france) is rumoured to be involved because of domestic political purposes..........

Yemen, bahrain, Syria and Suadi Arabia all heating up, this has all the ingredients of big s**t fight................

Oil price rising,pressure on food soon to squeeze with the contamination of several large producing area's in japan...........

Thousands of nuclear weapons out there, in the 70's and 80's scientists reckoned we could be a couple of above ground detonations away from chain reaction like thing around the atmosphere...........


After a lull for a few decades, this world is getting very intrigueing.............

 

[Monniehawk]

However I read somewhere recently to watch for something happening on the 19th of this month...rekon that was when the UN legalised war against libya?

No. Harry Bellafonte's 101st birthday!
Go Harry!

Thousands of nuclear weapons out there, in the 70's and 80's scientists reckoned we could be a couple of above ground detonations away from chain reaction like thing around the atmosphere...........

From my long (but totally unreliable) memory, that is probably the Cobalt Bomb, a theoretical device designed to produce a relatively small explosion but high radioactivity that would wipe out life on earth. Some referred to it as the Doomsday Bomb.
Fukushima currently offering a reprise.
..and Kylie Minogue records running a close second.

 

[rayven]

No. Harry Bellafonte's 101st birthday!
Go Harry!

On harry,

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From my long (but totally unreliable) memory, that is probably the Cobalt Bomb, a theoretical device designed to produce a relatively small explosion but high radioactivity that would wipe out life on earth. Some referred to it as the Doomsday Bomb.

No something about we loaded up on so many tests we could set off all the s**t sitting in the atmosphere with another detonation........

Fukushima currently offering a reprise.

there problems are only just starting..................

..and Kylie Minogue records running a close second.

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[Monniehawk]

LOVE IT!!
(BTW, there are two more continents I left out, but we can forget Antarctica anyway. The penguins are having five bob each way 'cos they are black and white!)

 

[Evil Pleb]

So is that one!
There are 144,000 remaining as "the remnant", according to some interpretations of Revelations. You plan to be amongst them with your attitude?
Oh! But you do! Your comments are beyond proselytising.
No. That is a misinterpretation of Luke. It was Christ who spoke regarding following Jesus. He offered a similar ultimatum that you outline.
But then that opens another argument of whether Christ is God....
....and literalistic interpretations of the Bible.

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I pointed that out, yet you are adamant that we are within that region. This has been repeated throughout the aeons, with the same conviction and the same fervour! One can only muse on the relative timelines - a day a month a millennium, or even more.
If your god is one of fear, you're welcome to him.
Millions have chosen other concepts of their deity.

Such a question regarding the remnant wouldn't even need to be asked if you've comprehended what's said in the bible pertaining to such a question.

You say that I'm speaking for God, just because you think I've gone beyond proselytizing. I think I've made myself clear where I speak for myself and where I say 'the bible says / states'. But, if you want to believe otherwise, that's your prerogative.

I'm sure it's you who has misinterpreted the scripture. It's a clear cut statement, which is supported by other scriptures. Yes, Jesus was the one who stated: "He that is not on my side is against me,..." To answer your question that such a scripture possibly leads to questions about whether Jesus is God or not, (John 14:10) is spoken by Jesus, and says: "Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and He is in union with me? THE THINGS I SAY ARE NOT OF MY OWN ORIGINALITY;..." This shows that Jesus was acting as God's mouthpiece while on the Earth. Also, God said to Moses: "You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live." Many saw Jesus and didn't die from it. So if Jesus really was God, that would be a contradiction.

How could prophesying and talk of the end times possibly have been going on for eons, when humankind has only been around for a bit over 6000 years. If you understood the bible, you would understand relative time from God's stand point.
If you believe the God of the bible is a God of fear, it only further displays that you haven't understood the bible's explanation of God's character and actions; and especially haven't understood the main point that's at the core of every issue within the bible and why things have been allowed to transpire for 6000 odd years the way they have. Given your lack of understanding, I think I'll treat your interpretations of scripture with an extra helping of salt.

I pity the mislead because their chosen deity will not provide refuge from what's soon to occur when the Almighty God takes action against wicked mankind. People have a chance to attain repentance before the figurative ark door closes. When God does act, no-one living who's capable of deciding for themselves will be able to claim ignorance or point the finger at someone else for not taking heed of the warning given within the bible.

 

[Evil Pleb]

Pleb, with all these 'signs' what is the latest date you would expect this by?
The end of the year? two years? Forty years?

I don't speculate on such.

 

[Niximus]

I don't speculate on such.

Of course, that way you can never be wrong, it's always just around the corner.....

 

[Monniehawk]

Such a question regarding the remnant wouldn't even need to be asked if you've comprehended what's said in the bible pertaining to such a question.

You say that I'm speaking for God, just because you think I've gone beyond proselytizing. I think I've made myself clear where I speak for myself and where I say 'the bible says / states'. But, if you want to believe otherwise, that's your prerogative.

I'm sure it's you who has misinterpreted the scripture. It's a clear cut statement, which is supported by other scriptures. Yes, Jesus was the one who stated: "He that is not on my side is against me,..." To answer your question that such a scripture possibly leads to questions about whether Jesus is God or not, (John 14:10) is spoken by Jesus, and says: "Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and He is in union with me? THE THINGS I SAY ARE NOT OF MY OWN ORIGINALITY;..." This shows that Jesus was acting as God's mouthpiece while on the Earth. Also, God said to Moses: "You are not able to see my face, because no man may see me and yet live." Many saw Jesus and didn't die from it. So if Jesus really was God, that would be a contradiction.

How could prophesying and talk of the end times possibly have been going on for eons, when humankind has only been around for a bit over 6000 years. If you understood the bible, you would understand relative time from God's stand point.
If you believe the God of the bible is a God of fear, it only further displays that you haven't understood the bible's explanation of God's character and actions; and especially haven't understood the main point that's at the core of every issue within the bible and why things have been allowed to transpire for 6000 odd years the way they have. Given your lack of understanding, I think I'll treat your interpretations of scripture with an extra helping of salt.

I pity the mislead because their chosen deity will not provide refuge from what's soon to occur when the Almighty God takes action against wicked mankind. People have a chance to attain repentance before the figurative ark door closes. When God does act, no-one living who's capable of deciding for themselves will be able to claim ignorance or point the finger at someone else for not taking heed of the warning given within the bible.

OK. Straight from the JW text book?
A couple of points:
It is plain that I don't regard the xtian god as one of fear. I was querying your interpretation. Fear of the apocalypse is a suspect motivation for recruiting believers. You spoke, and continue to speak (as highlighted above), only of the punitive actions of your god. That one-dimensionality worries me.
You do sound as tho you are speaking for god. Maybe you aren't, but you do sound like it.
When I was xtian, I was a monotheist.
My correction of your "with me" statement still stands. Your explanation above only supports that, I think. Still, it is a minor transgression, I admit.

As for the 6000 years thing... well, truly.....

 

[evo]

To answer your question that such a scripture possibly leads to questions about whether Jesus is God or not, (John 14:10) is spoken by Jesus, and says: "Do you not believe that I am in union with the Father and He is in union with me? THE THINGS I SAY ARE NOT OF MY OWN ORIGINALITY;..." This shows that Jesus was acting as God's mouthpiece while on the Earth.

Interestingly, that could be read another way- a way that the eastern philosophies/religions would agree with.

It could be read as saying that the 'self' doesn't really exist. 'We' are our causes, so to speak; the manifestation of karma. "I am God; God is me".

That's the way the gnostics would probably read it.

How could prophesying and talk of the end times possibly have been going on for eons, when humankind has only been around for a bit over 6000 years. .

hehehe

 

[rayven]

What if man had been threw what we have for the 6000 years? What if that man had worked out man like we work out various other specie's today?

The recordings of that could be interpreted as a prediction by some as history lessons by others........

What if someone like Constantine rewrote those recordings like how various empires have rewrote other histories or recorded them how they best see it benifiting THEM.


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[cancat]

I wonder if they will have the courage to be driving this car on the 22nd of May.

Strangely if that occurs they may be even more fervent about their beliefs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/When_Prophecy_Fails

Sequence of events
Festinger and his colleagues infiltrated Mrs. Keech's group and reported the following sequence of events:[3]

• Prior to December 20. The group shuns publicity. Interviews are given only grudgingly. Access to Keech's house is only provided to those who can convince the group that they are true believers. The group evolves a belief system—provided by the automatic writing from the planet Clarion—to explain the details of the cataclysm, the reason for its occurrence, and the manner in which the group would be saved from the disaster.
• December 20. The group expects a visitor from outer space to call upon them at midnight and to escort them to a waiting spacecraft. As instructed, the group goes to great lengths to remove all metallic items from their persons. As midnight approaches, zippers, bra straps, and other objects are discarded. The group waits.
• 12:05 A.M., December 21. No visitor. Someone in the group notices that another clock in the room shows 11:55. The group agrees that it is not yet midnight.
• 12:10 A.M. The second clock strikes midnight. Still no visitor. The group sits in stunned silence. The cataclysm itself is no more than seven hours away.
• 4:00 A.M. The group has been sitting in stunned silence. A few attempts at finding explanations have failed. Keech begins to cry.
• 4:45 A.M. Another message by automatic writing is sent to Keech. It states, in effect, that the God of Earth has decided to spare the planet from destruction. The cataclysm has been called off: "The little group, sitting all night long, had spread so much light that God had saved the world from destruction."
• Afternoon, December 21. Newspapers are called; interviews are sought. In a reversal of its previous distaste for publicity, the group begins an urgent campaign to spread its message to as broad an audience as possible.