The BigFooty Liverpool Army - Part 10
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Aquillaini clearly has groin soreness, runs up and down the lines and he tells Rafa how hes feeling. If hes okay he gets his 20 mins if he isnt he warms the pine. Not like Rafa has him keeping a star of his sub bench by taking that chance. Will play on Wednesday i say and thatll decide if he needs surgery or not
It was a poor game. I have never seen such a boring first half in football in my life. The a-league is more entertaining purely for comical errors.
It is as obvious as dogs balls that we lack flair and creativity without Xabi and when Torres isn't on the pitch. Yossi tries hard but doesn't have the support around him. Yossi plays the best when he has Torres and Gerrard to link up with.
A few of the positives are that our defence is standing firm and agger has strung a few games together (fingers crossed).
I watched the fulham sunderland game last night and I would love to see Dempsey in a liverpool shirt. IMO he is very underated. He is quick and works his ass off and his first touches last night were absolute quality. I don't think I saw him give possession away and his work in close with subtle touches was amazing. He would link up nicely with torres, gerrard, yossi and aquilani and I also think his game would step up another notch with that quality around him.
Sign him RAFA. He is the good kind of American, tap into that market.
It is as obvious as dogs balls that we lack flair and creativity without Xabi and when Torres isn't on the pitch. Yossi tries hard but doesn't have the support around him. Yossi plays the best when he has Torres and Gerrard to link up with.
A few of the positives are that our defence is standing firm and agger has strung a few games together (fingers crossed).
I watched the fulham sunderland game last night and I would love to see Dempsey in a liverpool shirt. IMO he is very underated. He is quick and works his ass off and his first touches last night were absolute quality. I don't think I saw him give possession away and his work in close with subtle touches was amazing. He would link up nicely with torres, gerrard, yossi and aquilani and I also think his game would step up another notch with that quality around him.
Sign him RAFA. He is the good kind of American, tap into that market.
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Got 15 mill. Thatd be Dempseys worth
He'd offer $10m cash
Or give them Babel + cash for Dempsey. I can see fulham taking that.
^ I'd definitly take that. Ryan is never going to deliver in a red shirt.
As shambolic as the game on the w/e was, geez had N'Gog hitthe ball 3 inches lower we astoundingly would have won.
It's getting to the point now where we can forget Champions League and are in a battle for a Europa League spot for next season
As shambolic as the game on the w/e was, geez had N'Gog hitthe ball 3 inches lower we astoundingly would have won.
It's getting to the point now where we can forget Champions League and are in a battle for a Europa League spot for next season
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He'd offer $10m cash
Or give them Babel + cash for Dempsey. I can see fulham taking that.
The idea Babel is worth 9 mill is insane (well so say the papers). Id go with 5.
Times come to consider selling Mascherano. DCM is easier to replace than a Agger or Torres and if ya need the money than ya gotta get it somehow. Maybe include Yaya in any deal
What scares me the most is that if we sold Mascherano, then Lucas will become a permanent fixture as the DCM.
I agree babel is not worth 9 mil, but he has perceived value as other clubs may think he is quality but hasn't been given a chance and/or his head is not in the right place to achieve full potential.. Well I hope so anyway
Talk on the liverpool website that contract discussions with Mash are taking place. However it is preliminary so I wouldn't read too much into it.
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What scares me the most is that if we sold Mascherano, then Lucas will become a permanent fixture as the DCM.
I agree babel is not worth 9 mil, but he has perceived value as other clubs may think he is quality but hasn't been given a chance and/or his head is not in the right place to achieve full potential.. Well I hope so anyway
Talk on the liverpool website that contract discussions with Mash are taking place. However it is preliminary so I wouldn't read too much into it.
Which smacks of increase that bid to me....
I don't remember what we are paying him. Is it his current contract where he is on fcvk all? Or did we revise that initial offer? I do remember him being on peanuts (not salted though, we can't afford that).
pretty sure its only like 45 000 a week, compared to the top earners like gerrard, torres and soon to be reina who are on 90 000 +
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Just offering Babel and Lucas should get him across. I dont think i can stand to watch another game featuring Lucas in a red shirt so the sooner he goes the better off i will feelHe'd offer $10m cash
Or give them Babel + cash for Dempsey. I can see fulham taking that.
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Masch deserves 60 or 70k a week though. He is one of the best defensive midfielders in the world and has returned to form recently. He is an absolute monster who destroys everything when on song.
As for Dempsey?? Seriously? He is so, so average. We already have an upgraded version of Dempsey, Dirk Kuyt.
As for the Blackburn game, what a pile of rubbish. We had our first shot on goal in the 57th minute. That's ****ing atrocious. 4-2-3-1 works with Torres and Gerrard. If Torres is out, we need to move to 4-4-2 and use Gerrard in central midfield with Masch. That way Gerrard is involved more and his creativity and drive pushes the team on. Two up front with Kuyt and N'Gog wouldnt be horrible and against teams like Blackburn and without Torres, this is what should be done.
I know everybody hates NEZ but you gotta be fair to the lad, when he came on, he was the most creative player on the pitch. Hugged the sideline and was prepared to run at defenders and try to make something happen. I think he is very average and obviously not good enough to play for us but when he came on, he did more in 10 minutes than Riera did the entire game.
Arsenal becomes a huge game now. At home, hopefully Torres is back. It's a must win to stay in touch with Villa, Spurs and City for 4th place.
This season is a nightmare.
As for Dempsey?? Seriously? He is so, so average. We already have an upgraded version of Dempsey, Dirk Kuyt.
As for the Blackburn game, what a pile of rubbish. We had our first shot on goal in the 57th minute. That's ****ing atrocious. 4-2-3-1 works with Torres and Gerrard. If Torres is out, we need to move to 4-4-2 and use Gerrard in central midfield with Masch. That way Gerrard is involved more and his creativity and drive pushes the team on. Two up front with Kuyt and N'Gog wouldnt be horrible and against teams like Blackburn and without Torres, this is what should be done.
I know everybody hates NEZ but you gotta be fair to the lad, when he came on, he was the most creative player on the pitch. Hugged the sideline and was prepared to run at defenders and try to make something happen. I think he is very average and obviously not good enough to play for us but when he came on, he did more in 10 minutes than Riera did the entire game.
Arsenal becomes a huge game now. At home, hopefully Torres is back. It's a must win to stay in touch with Villa, Spurs and City for 4th place.
This season is a nightmare.
Cant agree at all with your thoughts on Masch. He is nothing more than an honest trier but thats where it ends there. For a holding midfielder he gets pushed off the ball far too easily and hasnt got the strength required to play that role. His skills arnt the greatest either as he turns the ball over too often and hasnt got a left foot or if he has he very rarely uses it.
I would definately consider him as trade bait for the Jan transfer window
Mascherano is an interesting one. For a snapshot as to his importance, see how, in his absence, we got overrun in the midfield against Chelsea at Anfield in the quarter-final of last season's Champions League. He does break up a lot of play for us which is crucial. Nearly all the top teams worldwide possess quality defensive midfielders in the Mascherano mould.
On the other hand, he is somewhat limited offensively, as he is not a great passer of the ball (though he is not terrible either) and rarely gets into scoring positions. He also lacks that powerful build and stature and heading ability which would make him a threat from free-kicks, corners etc.
I would like to see how he goes playing in the middle with Aquilani (if he ever plays). Alonso and Mascherano complemented each other very well as they were both nominally defensive midfielders but actually couldn't have been more different: Alonso the deep-lying distributor and Mascherano the destroyer. Aquilani from reports is apparently more "offensive" and mobile than Alonso which would probably heighten the importance of Mascherano.
Given the choice I would rather keep him than sell him.
On the other hand, he is somewhat limited offensively, as he is not a great passer of the ball (though he is not terrible either) and rarely gets into scoring positions. He also lacks that powerful build and stature and heading ability which would make him a threat from free-kicks, corners etc.
I would like to see how he goes playing in the middle with Aquilani (if he ever plays). Alonso and Mascherano complemented each other very well as they were both nominally defensive midfielders but actually couldn't have been more different: Alonso the deep-lying distributor and Mascherano the destroyer. Aquilani from reports is apparently more "offensive" and mobile than Alonso which would probably heighten the importance of Mascherano.
Given the choice I would rather keep him than sell him.
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No surprises from that, Rafa has just been his usual overcautious self.
Aquaman better start tonight or I will get even angrier with Rafa.
No surprises from that, Rafa has just been his usual overcautious self.
Aquaman better start tonight or I will get even angrier with Rafa.
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Torres should get some minutes as a sub so that gives him a bit of preperation for the crucial Arsenal clash we have coming up.
are people gonna get up to watch it? i'm on uni holidays, won't have work thursday, yet dunno if there's a point. it'd be worth it to see aquilani start, but other than that i imagine we'll field a second rate side and with nothing on riding on the game will be quite unexciting
are they even showing it live?
cant imagine it being the preferred match with other groups still open.
as for masch you cant doubt that he is one of the top defensive midfielders. id say de rossi and essien are the only two players clearly ahead of him. everyone is saying his passing is poor, but you are only pointing that our because we are missing alonso and therefore are expecting him to be a play maker and a defensive mid.
cant imagine it being the preferred match with other groups still open.
as for masch you cant doubt that he is one of the top defensive midfielders. id say de rossi and essien are the only two players clearly ahead of him. everyone is saying his passing is poor, but you are only pointing that our because we are missing alonso and therefore are expecting him to be a play maker and a defensive mid.
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Lineup for La Viola?
Diego
Darby Skrtel Kyrgiakos Aurelio
Lucas Spearing
Kuyt Aquilani Dossena
Ngog
Reina
Johnson
Agger
Plessis
Benayoun
Eccleston
Torres
Diego
Darby Skrtel Kyrgiakos Aurelio
Lucas Spearing
Kuyt Aquilani Dossena
Ngog
Reina
Johnson
Agger
Plessis
Benayoun
Eccleston
Torres
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Sounds good, nice to see Rafa will throw some younger players in there.
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