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Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2
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The win you have when your not having a win credit to the bummers you can only beat what’s in front of you
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I'll take the opportunity to bag * over the opportunity to bag barrett...........
I'm guessing Willo needed to step away from AFL due to the pressures, commitment etc, and has sought a change in environment for a fresh start. VFL would be much easier to manage with MH issues than AFL.
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Surprised that folks don't seem to be talking about Vossy/the Club seemingly keeping the door ajar for Liam Jones now that the AFL have removed the vax mandate.
Seemed an interesting turnaround from his responses earlier in the year. I wonder if this year's KPD injury struggles have something to do with it?
ED: This was in today's pre-game presser.
Seemed an interesting turnaround from his responses earlier in the year. I wonder if this year's KPD injury struggles have something to do with it?
ED: This was in today's pre-game presser.
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The response to the Jones/Covid no injections now required starts around 8.5 minutes into the presser - paraphrasing:
"Voss specifically states that the situation is complicated
but stated that Jones decided to retire and the Club respected that decision but teh Club has a responsibility to look after itself
so the Club will pursue every means it can to see what if anything it can get "
my take:
the leverage the Club has over the Jones situation is that Jones can't actually apply to play AFL for 18 months after retirement.
So if the AFL are going to give Jones dispensation to play - then Carlton has every right to seek some sort of compensation.
Voss has previously made it clear that the Club has moved on from Jones - as in very clear.
We have great leverage and played the long game well. We tried to get an extra pick last year and the afl said “rules are rules.”
No worries. Well, rules are rules. The guy can’t play….unless of course you have a deal for us.
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Essendon having a chat to Jones - yeah nah Jonesy and up yours EssenDONE.
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Anyone we want to trade for at Essendon for unders? You want Jones, well let him play for you if you give us '......' for a 3rd round pick .....[emoji848]
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Seruously....Like what? Now aligned with a VFL team and no affiliation with high stress AFL team....
Good on him, hope he does well and enjoys himself.
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100% and I hope we are looking at bringing in a KPD, as has been reported, we will supposedly be hitting the draft this year, which means any additions will need to be free agents or delisted free agents, as we are a club in its premiership window, age shouldn’t be much of a barrier, just the quality.
We currently don’t have a third tall marking defender, the two quality ones we do have, have both been injured for 2 and 3 years, a Jones type, would provide some much needed depth to our list And allow us to hit the draft and not rush any draftees development.
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Yeah, I know he's been pretty firm in the past, that's why the seeming equivocation caught be by surprise. But I didn't clearly hear the question on my first listen. It turns out that it was in response to a question about the club seeking compensation for Liam, so I guess he wasn't referring to the possibility of Jones being allowed back.
Just to fix up your quoting of what Vossy said: "Yeah, we're exploring it, so we'll certainly ask that question. We'll work with them pretty closely over the next little while to see what that looks like for us. And obviously Jonesy chose to retire, so that's added some complexity into it. But - we need to? - what that looks like, I mean it's a really complex situation, so we'll explore it and see what our options are, that's for sure."
Even so.
Retires... for all of 15 minutes, then joins another club? Fishy as ****
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This is the type of weekly reporting that turns me off listening to football media. Last week, im pretty sure they had carlton in their 'top 4 seeds', whately maybe had us number 2.
Then we play shit against the cats and we are no longer in the top 4......the fact we lost to Pies, Rich and Saints still had us at top 4.....yeah, makes sense
Football media is pathetic and the weekly chop and changing based on one game is the reason people shouldnt listen to it.
(it comes up on my newsfeed from time to time and if im bored ill take a look to see their inconsistencies)
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Whately had us at 2 after the Freo win. Not sure he kept us there after the Saints loss.
This is the type of weekly reporting that turns me off listening to football media. Last week, im pretty sure they had carlton in their 'top 4 seeds', whately maybe had us number 2.
Then we play s**t against the cats and we are no longer in the top 4......the fact we lost to Pies, Rich and Saints still had us at top 4.....yeah, makes sense
Football media is pathetic and the weekly chop and changing based on one game is the reason people shouldnt listen to it.
(it comes up on my newsfeed from time to time and if im bored ill take a look to see their inconsistencies)
We haven't won 2 games in a row for 2 months now. Top 4 is beyond us.
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agree, im just happy to make the 8 but their weekly swapping based on one performance is embarrassing really - i mean its a headline grab and conversation starter but like all afl analysis, they change their opinion as often as the tides change
Interesting article in the HS stating that perhaps Ben might be better than Harry moving forward.
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yeah, don't think the fixture will be doing us any favours from here.........
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Irrespective of what media types want to say, even 8th is a good result for us. They built us up as top 4 fancies and potential grand finallists now will say we've disappointed by slipping to 8th (should we slip to 8th that is). In reality the fanbase and internal staff would have taken any finals spot in the pre-season given we have a new coach, gameplan and philosophy.
To get immediate finals results would be an amazing result, don't let media commentators distract us from that. They built us up now want to tear us down. Let them worry about that while we just enjoy the journey.
To get immediate finals results would be an amazing result, don't let media commentators distract us from that. They built us up now want to tear us down. Let them worry about that while we just enjoy the journey.
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I could do that.Of course not you.
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it really is odious watching a mod rally the "poor us" troops in here...........
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