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Opinion The 'Carlton related stuff that doesn't need it's own thread' thread Part 2

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Yep.

We either need some of the players we have - LOB, Dow, Stocker, Ramsay, Philp, Setterfield, Cuningham, Kemp, Caroll, Durdin, Williams, Martin, Williamson, SPS - to take the next step, or we need to replace those without AFL capablities in other positions.
Hopefully we can find an A grader out of Kemp, Philp, Stocker or Carroll. I think the AA captain Cripps days are already gone due to his past workload.
 

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On tackling though Saints have Billy Slater .? I’d bring in Cameron Smith . Tough as and a beautiful kick with premiership integrity. Just my feelings .


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I think he's moved to the Sunshine Coast permanently. Won't be too bothered being an AFL assistant coach I would have thought.
 
He was just on 360 and good to know many of us feel exactly the same way. We are hurting. 20 years....
Thougjt everything he said tonight was spot on.

Love it when brings up the standards they had, what they expected of one another & that they wanted to be winners.
If you didn’t cut it, ta-ta.

They played hard off-field but bonded & didn’t take short cuts in their endeavours to bring excellence to the CFC.

Bring that back!

A quick little drive-by on the leadership manager at the club being an employee & yes man to keep his wage. Needs to be external for true feedback.
 
Do people look back and see a lack of integrity? Or do they see a great captain, leader and winner?

No one cares that Diesel and Rhys-Jones were thugs or the dodgy sh*t our players from the 70s and 80s got up to, people care about the premierships we won.
The dodgy shit you refer to Make today's AFL bad boys look like choir Boys. the game has been significantly sanitised, however every team needs some wild boys where Mongrel comes naturally. Just need to control them better.
 

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Love it when brings up the standards they had, what they expected of one another & that they wanted to be winners.
If you didn’t cut it, ta-ta.

They played hard off-field but bonded & didn’t take short cuts in their endeavours to bring excellence to the CFC.

Bring that back!

A quick little drive-by on the leadership manager at the club being an employee & yes man to keep his wage. Needs to be external for true feedback.
My favorite bit too.
 

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Do people look back and see a lack of integrity? Or do they see a great captain, leader and winner?

No one cares that Diesel and Rhys-Jones were thugs or the dodgy sh*t our players from the 70s and 80s got up to, people care about the premierships we won.
Leigh Mathews was one of the dirtiest players in the game.

Still named player of the century and is on most peoples top 5, if not top 1, lists.
 
I liked what Sellers had to say and didn't disagree with anything he said. Apart from the players he also spoke about team selection. He said there was no "ïntegrity of selection" and "who have they dropped?". Basically saying that they never drop high profile players only the no-namers. Spot on.


Its the only thing I agree with .

Murphy and Betts need to be dropped this week - no questions asked. Out. If they are named in the team then this club is finished for the season.

If SPS is in the back line - we will be smashed, it means we have not learned, and done nothing. It's not SPS's fault - its just indicative of our failure to make the changes required.
 
That article doesn't explore the performances at all. It's just a fancy whinge saying other clubs have also performed under expectations and St Kilda especially so.

Doesn't excuse our performances at all and the constant patterns everyone can see. Calling mcclure a nuff says more about your knowledge than anything else.


McClure does the same thing every single year no matter what our position is - its literally how I view him - just having a constant bash and a whinge.

As far your comments on the article are concerned - rubbish. You're just dismissing absolute facts.

Seriously - we finished 11th last year and people expected us to rise to 8th with realistic expectations - and you and mark are blowing up because we did not beat the Home and Away Premiers and the Grand Final winner - seriously ?

Those are your expectations - Carlton has failed because we failed to beat the two best teams in the competition (by a MASSIVE MARGIN) - it really is so far beyond ridiculous its funny.

There is absolutely NO QUESTION who has zero footy knowledge.

There are serious problems right now at Carlton and they are Murphy, Betts getting games when they should not be, and players out of position - SPS is so ridiculous its not funny. Dow's game structure is a travesty as is LOB.

Something is going on in this regard and that is what is destroying the players confidence - I 100% think it is politics at Carlton - like it ALWAYS IS.
 
Do people look back and see a lack of integrity? Or do they see a great captain, leader and winner?

No one cares that Diesel and Rhys-Jones were thugs or the dodgy sh*t our players from the 70s and 80s got up to, people care about the premierships we won.
I care. Plenty of people do.
 
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