The Chopping Block?

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If they had any intention of cutting them at the end of next year they'd have been cut this year, surely. Whilst too early to tell, I think Corrie is definitely on his last legs.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Early days of course - dont shoot me for it - but which players in season 2010 are going to be most likely to be moved on at the end of the year?

Off the top of my head you'd have to say Cook and Corrie are the most vulnerable, with Presti likely to retire. But assuming we usually turn over five at a minimum, what other names may be turned over or delisted/retired off?

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

If they had any intention of cutting them at the end of next year they'd have been cut this year, surely. Whilst too early to tell, I think Corrie is definitely on his last legs.

Thats why I said dont shoot me. Its just a guess.

 

[TradeDraft]

Defintaly Corrie and Cook need to do Something to stay on the list past next season.

Leigh Brown could also need to play well to keep his spot

 

[collingwill]

barham, cook, corrie, buckley?, fraser (if he cant get his knee right) rusling (if he doesnt stay fit.)

 

[smiddaz123]

Fraser, O'Bree, Lockyer, Johnson, Presti.....I can see two of them finishing their careers.

Cook and Corrie should be gone.

 

[JOELY]

No way Leigh Brown is in trouble. Even if he has a bad season, he'll get another one to find his "form" back.

As stated the obvious ones are Corrie and Cook with a Presti retirement. O'Bree is another possible retirement, perhaps Lockyer?

Can't really imagine anymore delistings. With the GC draft next year it's a nice position to have the list in.

Reed, Blair and Francis will have to find a spot at years end to stay with us.

It's possible have a bit of trouble finding space for the minimum draft selections.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Yeah, forgot about BJ, could be his last year.

 

[Bloben]

With the compromised draft don't be suprised to see us making minimal list changes which I believe is 3 however correct me if I'm wrong.

We may delist Corrie, Cook and Presti (if retired)

We could then promote a rookie or two and possibly only pick up one kid in the draft.

 

[collingwill]

With the compromised draft don't be suprised to see us making minimal list changes which I believe is 3 however correct me if I'm wrong.

We may delist Corrie, Cook and Presti (if retired)

We could then promote a rookie or two and possibly only pick up one kid in the draft.

doubt it, we can take 17 yr olds next year can we? even if we cant we still found value at pick 70 odd this year, and im sure we'll be trying to hide talent like all the clubs will, the "hiding" wouldve started last yr id imagine.

 

[Peter Sidorkiewicz]

In the gun:

Rusling - can't afford to carry him one more year if his body breaks down again
Corrie - Only surived delisting because he had another year of contract
L Brown - N Brown and Reid are ready for full time AFL football
Fraser - Only if his knee can't hold up
Johnson - Sidebottom and Beams have developed quicker than expected and may squeeze BJ out
Cook - Lucky not be delisted at end of 2009
Rounds - Another in the final year of his contract, would need to show improvement in VFL
Barham - Ditto but has been around for longer. If he can't get his kicking right then he may not get another contract. You can't afford to keep players longer than four years (as Stanley have recently found out) if your disposal can't cut it.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Off the top of my head you'd have to say Cook and Corrie are the most vulnerable, with Presti likely to retire. But assuming we usually turn over five at a minimum, what other names may be turned over or delisted/retired off?

I agree five would be the usual minimum, but I'm not sure this draft is usual. Cook and Corrie are likely on thin ice though, I'm with you there.

With the compromised draft don't be suprised to see us making minimal list changes which I believe is 3 however correct me if I'm wrong.

Minimal list change is indeed three, but one of those can be a rookie promotion.

Say we finish top 4; our first pick will likely be around #22, our second at #39, our third at #56. If the draft is of the usual standard and depth, and keeping in mind that this draft at least has a full one-year intake of new talent (albeit that some 17-y-o's will have been taken already by the GC17 before the draft) I don't think it's unreasonable to think we'd draft three players. We are also likely to senior list Tom Young after playing a year with our VFL team. In addition to that, we may choose to promote a rookie but I suspect that to promote more than one, it would be based upon the way the seniors are performing moreso than the rookies.

So I'd be thinking, to get around five;
Cook
Corrie
A couple of retirements out of Presti/BJ/Fraser/Lockyer/O'Bree/Rusling

That's only my best guess, of course.

 

[DaVe86]

Corrie and Cook are the obvious 2 that will need a massive year to survive.

There's a few rookies coming up to their 2nd year so they'll need a big year as well. Francis, Blair, Reed and Keefe have their last years so not all 4 will be promoted. Probably only 1 will get promoted...others may be re-rookied. Early days, but I think Blair and Keefe will still be on the list in 2011.


Rusling needs to string some games together or its over.


Guys like Macaffer, Wellingham and McCarthy need to push on. If they take a step back, guys will push them down the pecking order. You'd think all 3 would need to play senior footy next year to retain their spots.


Then a few newer guys like Rounds and Blight need to show improvement but will most likely be given 3 years to make a showing.


Leigh Brown and Ben Johnson will have to maintain their form. If either drops off even 5%, they will be on the chopping block with so many guys coming through to take their roles.


Presti and O'Bree I think will play on in 2011. Presti is the most likely to retire, but O'Bree may be pushed aside.



With so many promising rookies, you'd still be wanting a minimum of 4-5 list changes at years end so we can promote a few rookies and still have around 3 picks. Who knows, we may even lose a player to GC.

 

[mdc]

Guys like Macaffer, Wellingham and McCarthy need to push on. If they take a step back, guys will push them down the pecking order. You'd think all 3 would need to play senior footy next year to retain their spots.

Wellingham maybe, but unlikely. The other two won't even come up in discussion regardless of the year they have.

 

[knightwheelrqr]

Ryan Cook - Don't see him making it for Collingwood, at another team maybe, but he just seems to make poor decisions and is far too hesitant.
Anthony Corrie - Will need to break into the AFL side semi-regularly to be retained.
Simon Prestigiacomo - I expect will retire at the end of next season.
Sean Rusling - I think he can make it, but he will only be on our list if he gets his body right which we can only hope he does.
Chris Dawes - Will want to break into the side for a couple more games and continue his development if he wants to be retained.
Luke Rounds - Depending on his development next year could be on the chopping block, though I think he will be retained for atleast another season.

Also the outside chance for retirement (should have another 1-2 years in them after this year): O'Bree, Lockyer, Fraser, Johnson.

Can only see 3-4 list changes occuring next season with the introduction of Gold Coast 17, so don't expect anything major to occur.

Most likely jsut: Cook, Corrie and the retirement of Prestigiacomo at this stage.

 

[collingwill]

Ryan Cook - Don't see him making it for Collingwood, at another team maybe, but he just seems to make poor decisions and is far too hesitant.
Anthony Corrie - Will need to break into the AFL side semi-regularly to be retained.
Simon Prestigiacomo - I expect will retire at the end of next season.
Sean Rusling - I think he can make it, but he will only be on our list if he gets his body right which we can only hope he does.
Chris Dawes - Will want to break into the side for a couple more games and continue his development if he wants to be retained.
Luke Rounds - Depending on his development next year could be on the chopping block, though I think he will be retained for atleast another season.

Also the outside chance for retirement (should have another 1-2 years in them after this year): O'Bree, Lockyer, Fraser, Johnson.

Can only see 3-4 list changes occuring next season with the introduction of Gold Coast 17, so don't expect anything major to occur.

Most likely jsut: Cook, Corrie and the retirement of Prestigiacomo at this stage.

i hope your wrong, especially if he has another good year, i think as a permanent FB he could push on for another year.

 

[smiddaz123]

Absolutely no chance Dawes will be delisted. None at all.

 

[TradeDraft]

Ryan Cook - Don't see him making it for Collingwood, at another team maybe, but he just seems to make poor decisions and is far too hesitant.
Anthony Corrie - Will need to break into the AFL side semi-regularly to be retained.
Simon Prestigiacomo - I expect will retire at the end of next season.
Sean Rusling - I think he can make it, but he will only be on our list if he gets his body right which we can only hope he does.
Chris Dawes - Will want to break into the side for a couple more games and continue his development if he wants to be retained.
Luke Rounds - Depending on his development next year could be on the chopping block, though I think he will be retained for atleast another season.

Also the outside chance for retirement (should have another 1-2 years in them after this year): O'Bree, Lockyer, Fraser, Johnson.

Can only see 3-4 list changes occuring next season with the introduction of Gold Coast 17, so don't expect anything major to occur.

Most likely jsut: Cook, Corrie and the retirement of Prestigiacomo at this stage.

I most Surprised at these 2, as Rounds is only in his 2nd year. Dawes I agree needs to get more games in the AFL. Though it depends what we get in the Trade and Draft if he does not come out

 

[Old Spice]

Corrie
Cook
Leroy / Presti (r)
Obree (r)
Johnson

 

[Mickaman]

In the gun:

Rusling - can't afford to carry him one more year if his body breaks down again
Corrie - Only surived delisting because he had another year of contract
L Brown - N Brown and Reid are ready for full time AFL football
Fraser - Only if his knee can't hold up
Johnson - Sidebottom and Beams have developed quicker than expected and may squeeze BJ out
Cook - Lucky not be delisted at end of 2009
Rounds - Another in the final year of his contract, would need to show improvement in VFL
Barham - Ditto but has been around for longer. If he can't get his kicking right then he may not get another contract. You can't afford to keep players longer than four years (as Stanley have recently found out) if your disposal can't cut it.

Agree with maybe Barham getting a 1 year extension unless really stinking it up in the magoos all year.

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Then a few newer guys like Rounds and Blight need to show improvement but will most likely be given 3 years to make a showing.

Both are absolutely safe as houses, barring life-threatening injury or serious criminal charges. Bottom-aged kids have to be given more time, just think how long we've given Cook and Stanley. Both Rounds and Blight showed more in their first season than those two did in 2006.

Possible exception being Thoolen, but we're not comparing apples with apples in that scenario.

 

[Bay Pie]

Cook & Corrie.

I think Presti and possibly O'Bree will retire. Fraser may also retire should his knee troubles continue.

Even if Reid comes on, L.Brown will be retained as backup due to Prestis' retirement.

Ben Johnson is the other older guy who will, in all likelihood, get overtaken by some young guys.

That's our standard 5 we seem to turn over each year.

 

[collingwill]

Cook & Corrie.

I think Presti and possibly O'Bree will retire. Fraser may also retire should his knee troubles continue.

Even if Reid comes on, L.Brown will be retained as backup due to Prestis' retirement.

Ben Johnson is the other older guy who will, in all likelihood, get overtaken by some young guys.

That's our standard 5 we seem to turn over each year.

i cant see johnson, obree, presty, lockyer retiring, or at least being asked to move on, them players IMO are the key to us becoming a super team over the next 2 years, even if they slip slightly from where they are now we could not ask for better depth players, especially seeing all the hard work they've done over a long period of time i doubt they'd call it quits now where we're about to bear fruit.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Ryan Cook - Don't see him making it for Collingwood, at another team maybe, but he just seems to make poor decisions and is far too hesitant.
Anthony Corrie - Will need to break into the AFL side semi-regularly to be retained.
Simon Prestigiacomo - I expect will retire at the end of next season.
Sean Rusling - I think he can make it, but he will only be on our list if he gets his body right which we can only hope he does.
Chris Dawes - Will want to break into the side for a couple more games and continue his development if he wants to be retained.
Luke Rounds - Depending on his development next year could be on the chopping block, though I think he will be retained for atleast another season.

Also the outside chance for retirement (should have another 1-2 years in them after this year): O'Bree, Lockyer, Fraser, Johnson.

Can only see 3-4 list changes occuring next season with the introduction of Gold Coast 17, so don't expect anything major to occur.

Most likely jsut: Cook, Corrie and the retirement of Prestigiacomo at this stage.

Thats a pretty fair and balanced assessment at this stage. Doubt Lockyer will be retired off though after his 2009, and theres no hope in Hell that Rounds will be delisted.

Dawes, Ruslling Wellingham and Goldsack are all possibilities for their names to be thrown around in trade week, along with more senior players Fraser and Johnson. But I doubt that any of them apart from Johnson will be delisted outright.

 

[lukey69]

corrie
presti(retired)
obree( retired)
tarks (to old)
rounds(dud)