The Crystal Ball Thread - 2013

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

I saw this on the Essendon page, so I figured we could also have a bit of fun/discussion with it.
Use your crystal ball and predict the following:

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Daniel Kerr
Runner Up: Sam Mitchell
Coleman: Lance Franklin
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Trent Cotchin
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Adelaide, Carlton, Fremantle, Geelong.
Bottom 10 (in order): North, Essendon, Richmond, St. Kilda, Brisbane, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Fremantle
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Voss
Surprise of the season: West Coast freekick count even at Patterson Stadium.
Disappointment of the season: Kurt Tippett to dominate in Sydney's forwardline.
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16-7
Carlton most improved player: Dennis Armfield
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[blueboy25]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Isaac Smith
Runner Up: Collingwood
Coleman: Tom Hawkins
John Nicholls Medal: Bryce Gibbs
Brownlow: Sam Mitchell
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Carlton, Sydney, Fremantle, Geelong, Adelaide
Bottom 10 (in order): North, Essendon, Richmond, St. Kilda, Brisbane, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Hardwick
Surprise of the season: AFL decide to buy Etihad Stadium early
Disappointment of the season: melbourne continue to struggle both on field and off
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17-5
Carlton most improved player: Lachie Henderson
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Jospeh
Carlton scapegoat: Robbie Warnock

 

[Aphrodite]

C4[2]Yo`DooR You forgot the all important "Who will finish 9th".

 

[Silvagnis]

Premiers: West Coast
Norm Smith: Scott Selwood
Runner Up: Hawthorn
Coleman: Josh Kennedy
John Nicholls Medal: Matthew Kreuzer
Brownlow: Josh Kennedy (Sydney)
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Collingwood, Sydney, Adelaide, Carlton, Geelong, Fremantle
Bottom 10 (in order): North, Essendon, Richmond, Brisbane, Port, St Kilda, GC, Bulldogs, Melbourne, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Brisbane
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Kevin Sheedy
Surprise of the season: Eddie McGuire keeping his fat trap shut about the business of other clubs
Disappointment of the season: Collingwood's and Richmond's retreads failing to deliver
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16/5/courageous draw with Richmond
Carlton most improved player: Matthew Kreuzer
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Bryce Gibbs

 

[slashin_velvet]

Premiers: West Coast
Norm Smith: Priddis
Runner Up: Hawthorn
Coleman: Tom Hawkins
John Nicholls Medal: Bryce Gibbs
Brownlow: Sam Mitchell
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Sydney, Collingwood, Fremantle, Carlton, Geelong, Adelaide Bottom 10 (in order): Richmond, Essendon, North, Brisbane, St Kilda, GC, Port, Bulldogs, Melbourne, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Fremantle (even thought their ladder position wont change much - they will be more competitive)
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Brendan McCartney
Surprise of the season: Plans for another new team is in the works.
Disappointment of the season: Collingwood being a stronger team
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16/6
Carlton most improved player: Kane Lucas
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Marcus Davies

 

[pepalenko]

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: Andrew Walker
Runner Up: Hawthorn
Coleman: Jack Reiwoldt
John Nicholls Medal: Chris Judd
Brownlow: Josh Kennedy (Sydney)
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Carlton, Sydney, Adelaide, Collingwood, Geelong, Fremantle
Bottom 10 (in order): Richmond,North, Essendon, Brisbane, Port, St Kilda, GC, Bulldogs, Melbourne, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Brisbane
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Guy McKenna
Surprise of the season: Lachie Henderson is AA CHB
Disappointment of the season: No StKilda scandal
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17/4
Carlton most improved player: Matthew Watson
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Joseph

 

[King of Ruin]

I saw this on the Essendon page, so I figured we could also have a bit of fun/discussion with it.

Ew you were on the Essendon page

 

[Dramoth]

Ew you were on the Essendon page

just quietly... I think that he actually works for them

Ok... my shot at this:

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: Mitch Robinson
Runners up: Collingwood
Coleman: Josh Kennedy (WCE)
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Carlton, Sydney, Collingwood, Adelaide, Fremantle, North Melbourne
Bottom 10 (in order): Richmond, Geelong, St Kilda, Brisbane, Essendon, GC, Port, Bulldogs, Melbourne, GWS
Wooden spoon: GWS
Most improved team: Brisbane
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: James Hird
Surprise of the season: Casboult coming second in the Coleman
Disappointment of the season: Collingwood beating us in the second meeting
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16/6
Carlton most improved player: Levi Casboult
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph/Marcus Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph/Marcus Davies

 

[le dominateur]

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: Chris Judd
Runners up: Collingwood
Coleman: Buddy (HAW)
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Collingwood, Sydney, West Coast, Carlton, Geelong, Hawthorn, Adelaide, Fremantle
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Richmond, St Kilda, North Melbourne, Brisbane, GC, Melbourne, Footscray, Port, GWS
Wooden spoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: Adelaide / Hawthorn
First coach sacked: McKenna
Surprise of the season: Pendlebury suspended
Disappointment of the season: Losing to the Saints again
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16/6
Carlton most improved player: Touhy
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Bryce Gibbs

 

[The Toad]

Premiers: Sydney
Norm Smith: Adam Goodes
Runners up: Hawthorn
Coleman: Buddy (HAW)
John Nicholls Medal: Bryce Gibbs
Brownlow: Marc Murphy / Scott Pendlebury
Top 8 (in order): Collingwood, Sydney, Hawthorn, Carlton, Geelong, West Coast, St Kilda, Fremantle
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Richmond, Adelaide, North Melbourne, Brisbane, GC, Melbourne, Footscray, Port, GWS
Wooden spoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: Adelaide
First coach sacked: McKenna
Surprise of the season: Pendlebury suspended
Disappointment of the season: Losing to the Saints again
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17/5
Carlton most improved player: Lucas
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Dennis Armfeild

 

[Squida25]

I hope I'm wrong about a few of these

Premiers: Collingwood
Norm Smith: Scott Pendlebury
Runners up: Fremantle
Coleman: Lance Franklin
John Nicholls Medal: Chris Judd
Brownlow: Gary Ablett
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Collingwood, Fremantle, Sydney, West Coast, Carlton, Adelaide, Geelong
Bottom 10 (in order): Richmond, North Melbourne, Essendon, GC, St Kilda, Port, Melbourne, Brisbane, Bulldogs, GWS
Wooden spoon: GWS
Most improved team: Fremantle
Biggest slide: Adelaide
First coach sacked: Hardwick
Surprise of the season: Adelaide miss Tippet (on field)
Disappointment of the season: Losing an away final
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16-7
Carlton most improved player: Garlett
Carlton best debutant: Buckley
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Gibbs

 

[#BeNavy]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Sam Mitchell
Runner Up: Sydney
Coleman: Lance Franklin
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Trent Cotchin
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast, Collingwood, Fremantle, Adelaide, Carlton, Geelong.
Bottom 10 (in order): Richmond, Essendon, St. Kilda, North Melbourne, Brisbane, Melbourne, Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs, Port Adelaide, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: North Melbourne
First coach sacked: Brad Scott
Surprise of the season: Melbourne to admit to tanking in '09
Disappointment of the season: Richmond - fail to make finals again and finish the dreaded 9th.
Carlton win/loss ratio: 14-9
Carlton most improved player: Kane Lucas
Carlton best debutant: Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Marcus Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Marcus Davies

 

[Blues177]

Premiers: Hawthorn​

Norm Smith: Dayne Beams​

Runner Up: Collingwood​

Coleman: Jack Riewoldt​

John Nicholls Medal: Andrew Carrazzo​

Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury​

Top 8 (in order): Collingwood, Hawthorn, West Coast, Sydney, Geelong, Essendon, Carlton, Fremantle.​

Bottom 10 (in order): Adelaide, Nth Melb, Richmond, St Kilda, Brisbane, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, Western Bulldogs, GWS​

Woodenspoon: GWS​

Most improved team: Essendon​

Biggest slide: Adelaide​

First coach sacked: Mc Kenna​

Surprise of the season: Sheedy to return to Essendon in some capacity by October.​

Disappointment of the season: Carlton losing to Hawthorn by a big margin again.​

Carlton win/loss ratio: 12-9-1... Draw vs the pies​

Carlton most improved player: Nick Duigan​

Carlton best debutant: Nick Graham​

Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Marcus Davies​

Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph​

 

[LanceRomance]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Sam Mitchell
Runner Up: West Coast
Coleman: Travis Cloke
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, West Coast, Fremantle, Sydney, Adelaide, Carlton, Collingwood, Brisbane.
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, North, Richmond, Geelong, St. Kilda, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: McKenna
Surprise of the season: Brisbane to dominate all higher rated opponents at the GABBA
Disappointment of the season: Richmond not making the 8
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17-5
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs
Carlton best debutant: Graham
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: David Ellard (though I suspect he will be traded)
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[BrandonG]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Kade Simpson
Runner Up: Carlton
Coleman: Tom Hawkins
John Nicholls Medal: Bryce Gibbs
Brownlow: Marc Murphy/Trent Cothcin
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Carlton, Westcoast, Geelong, Collingwood, Sydney, Richmond, Essendon
Bottom 10 (in order): Adelaide, Fremantle, North, Saints, GC, Brisbane, Melbourne, Port, Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton / GC
Biggest slide: Adelaide
First coach sacked: Vossy
Surprise of the season: Geelong to go out in straight sets
Disappointment of the season: Lose a game or two against sides below us.
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17-5
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs
Carlton best debutant: Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Marcus Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[Jeremias]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Lance Franklin
Runner Up: West Coast
Coleman: Lance Franklin
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Scott Pendlebury
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Collingwood, West Coast, Sydney, Fremantle, Carlton, Adelaide, Geelong
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Richmond, North Melbourne, St Kilda, Brisbane, GC, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton/GC
Biggest slide: North Melbourne
First coach sacked: Michael Voss
Surprise of the season: Fremantle - have them finishing 5th as above, but every chance of finishing in the top 3.
Disappointment of the season: Richmond not managing to finish 9th
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16/6
Carlton most improved player: Simon White
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Marcus Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[checkpoints]

Premiers: Sydney
Norm Smith: Josh Kennedy (SYD)
Runner Up: Carlton
Coleman: Lance Franklin
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Sam Mitchell
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Sydney, West Coast, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood, Adelaide, Geelong
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Richmond, North Melbourne, St Kilda, Brisbane, GC, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton/GC
Biggest slide: North Melbourne
First coach sacked: Michael Voss
Surprise of the season: Fremantle - Finishing 4th
Disappointment of the season: Losing to the Saints
Carlton win/loss ratio: 15/7
Carlton most improved player: Simon White/Bryce Gibbs/Kane Lucas
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay/Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Marcus Davies
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[juzza316]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Lance Franklin
Runner Up: Collingwood
Coleman: Taylor Walker
John Nicholls Medal: Chris Judd
Brownlow: Trent Cotchin
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Collingwood, Sydney, Fremantle, West Coast, Carlton,Adelaide, Richmond
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Geelong, North Melbourne, Brisbane, Stkilda, GC, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Western Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Richmond
Biggest slide: Stkilda
First coach sacked: None
Surprise of the season: Fremantle - Finishing 4th
Disappointment of the season: First week finals exit for Blues
Carlton win/loss ratio: 14 -8
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs (hopefully)
Carlton best debutant: Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Bryce Gibbs (if hes not the most improved, he'll be the scapegoat)

 

[Franc de Borges]

Premiers: Fremantle
Norm Smith: Nat Fyfe
Runner Up: Sydney
Coleman: Taylor Walker
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Sydney, Fremantle, Carlton, Collingwood, West Coast, Hawthorn, Adelaide, Richmond
Bottom 10 (in order): Geelong, Essendon, Melbourne, St. Kilda, Brisbane, North Melbourne, Port Adelaide, Gold Coast, GWS, Western Bulldogs
Wooden Spoon: Western Bulldogs
Most improved team: Fremantle
Biggest slide: North Melbourne
First coach sacked: None
Surprise of the season: Hawthorn miss top 4
Disappointment of the season: Jordan Russell flourishes at Collingwood
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17-5
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs
Carlton best debutant: Tom Temay
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Sam Rowe
Carlton scapegoat: Marcus Davies

 

[JustaBattler]

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: M. Kreuzer
Runner Up: Sydney
Coleman: Tom Hawkins
John Nicholls Medal: Marc Murphy
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Sydney, West Coast, Hawthorn, Carlton, Fremantle Collingwood, Adelaide, Geelong
Bottom 10 (in order): Don't care
Wooden Spoon: Don't care
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: North Melbourne
First coach sacked: None
Surprise of the season: Collingwood out first game in semis
Disappointment of the season: Beating Collingwood by less than 10 goals
Carlton win/loss ratio: 17-5
Carlton most improved player: Bell/Warnock
Carlton best debutant: Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Ellard
Carlton scapegoat:

 

[HARKER]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: ???? Roughead
Runner Up: Carlton
Coleman: Riewoldt
John Nicholls Medal: Bryce Gibbs
Brownlow: Sam Mitchell
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, Collingwood, Carlton, West Coast, Adelaide, Fremantle, Sydney, Geelong
Bottom 10 (in order): ??????
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: Sydney
First coach sacked: ??????
Surprise of the season: ??????
Disappointment of the season: ??????
Carlton win/loss ratio: 16 - 6
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs..........Kane Lucas
Carlton best debutant: Sam Rowe...........Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Davies & Cachia
Carlton scapegoat: No scapegoats.................only heroes

 

[King of Ruin]

Just leave half of it out Harks

 

[Carlton_Blues]

Premiers: Hawthorn
Norm Smith: Sam Mitchell
Runner Up: WCE
Coleman: Taylor Walker
John Nicholls Medal: Chris Judd
Brownlow: Trent Cotchin
Top 8 (in order): Hawthorn, WCE, Collingwood, Fremantle, Sydney, Carlton, Adelaide, Richmond
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Geelong, North Melbourne, Brisbane, St Kilda, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, GC, Western Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS
Most improved team: Fremantle
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Guy McKenna
Surprise of the season: Fremantle
Disappointment of the season: Umpires
Carlton win/loss ratio: 14 - 8
Carlton most improved player: Bryce Gibbs
Carlton best debutant: Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[T2B_]

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: Aaron Joseph
Runner Up: WCE
Coleman: Josh Kennedy
John Nicholls Medal: Chris Judd
Brownlow: Marc Murphy
Top 8 (in order): Carlton, WCE, Collingwood, Fremantle, Sydney, Hawthorn, Adelaide, Richmond
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Geelong, North Melbourne, Brisbane, St Kilda, Melbourne, Port Adelaide, GC, Western Bulldogs, GWS
Woodenspoon: GWS/Port
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: St Kilda
First coach sacked: Crazy Vossy
Surprise of the season: Geelong
Disappointment of the season: Umpires
Carlton win/loss ratio: 18/4
Carlton most improved player: Aaron Joseph
Carlton best debutant: Troy Menzel
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph
Carlton scapegoat: Aaron Joseph

 

[The Facepainter]

Premiers: Carlton
Norm Smith: Bryce Gibbs
Runner Up: WCE
Coleman: Josh Kennedy
John Nicholls Medal: Mitch Ribinson
Brownlow: Gary Ablett
Top 8 (in order): WCE, Carlton, Hawthorn, Sydney, Fremantle, Richmond, North Melbourne, Collingwood
Bottom 10 (in order): Essendon, Geelong, Adelaide, Brisbane, Gold Coast, Port Adelaide, St.Kilda, GWS, Melbourne, Western Bulldogs
Woodenspoon: Western Bulldogs
Most improved team: Carlton
Biggest slide: Adelaide
First coach sacked Mcartney
Surprise of the season: Fremantle
Disappointment of the season: Collingwoods bubble still not bursting
Carlton win/loss ratio: 18/4
Carlton most improved player: Luke Mitchell
Carlton best debutant: Dylan Buckley
Most likely to be delisted at season's end: Aaron Joseph/ David Ellard/Marcus Davies or all 3
Carlton scapegoat: Brett Ratten