Mega Thread The Flat Earth Mega thread.

[darthbards]

No big deal,obviously the FES is a big organisation and I'm just one drop in the ocean.
Anyway,enjoy the FEStive season,don't go to hard or you could end up going over the edge.

At the FES we do realise we are a small organisation.
That's why we don't invade city centres or people's homes.

Our meetings are very civil and are of zero concern to the ball loving community

 

[Wedge McManus]

Why are you putting people on ignore when it was you that searched out and came to this thread?

Look,I'm more than happy to investigate any complaints you have regarding the FES and whatever actions or behaviour that were undertaken to upset you.
But hopefully you understand I need some specific details?
If these are to harrowing to explain on a public forum,please feel free to contact us via the links on our website.

Step outside, put a stick in the ground. Call a mate in another state, have he or she put a stick in the ground. If both sticks have the same shadows (or none at all) then the earth is flat. But because it isn't the shadows cast will be different.
If you have a mate in the northern hemisphere call them. Tell them to go outside and take a photo of the nights sky. Do the same at nightfall where you are. The two photos will be completely different, not because of your geographically different locations but because the northern hemisphere is pointing in a different direction to ours. Because the earth is round.

Go outside. Look into a powerful telescope at night and try and identify our closest planet neighbor. It is clearly round. As is every other known planet in our solar system. Why would every known planet in our solar system be round and ours flat?

The suggestion our planet is flat is aggressively stupid. Therefore it is obvious this is a troll thread. Why the mods haven't taken it down yet is beyond me. By allowing this nonsense to dwell here surely opens the door to other hoax BS. Which cheapens the genuine stuff on these boards.

 

[Wedge McManus]

Lol...an American on an Australian website lecturing about distance and travel.

Strangely personal thing to say from the bloke claiming to be a victim for his beliefs. Bit of a "do what I say not what I do" vibe about you

 

[RobbieK]

Strangely personal thing to say from the bloke claiming to be a victim for his beliefs. Bit of a "do what I say not what I do" vibe about you

Also strange because I'm not American and he has been told as such before.

Still waiting to hear an explanation as to how tides and currentd make a swum mile longer than a walked mile.

Maybe while they are at it they can let us know if a ton of feathers is heavier than a ton of bricks?

 

[Procrastinator35]

Also strange because I'm not American and he has been told as such before.

Still waiting to hear an explanation as to how tides and currentd make a swum mile longer than a walked mile.

Maybe while they are at it they can let us know if a ton of feathers is heavier than a ton of bricks?

No, a tonne is a tonne....However a nautical mile is different to a land mile, you silly.....The fallacy from analogy….and you can't even get your analogies commensurate for starters anyhoo…..Corr blimey.

 

[darthbards]

Step outside, put a stick in the ground. Call a mate in another state, have he or she put a stick in the ground. If both sticks have the same shadows (or none at all) then the earth is flat. But because it isn't the shadows cast will be different.
If you have a mate in the northern hemisphere call them. Tell them to go outside and take a photo of the nights sky. Do the same at nightfall where you are. The two photos will be completely different, not because of your geographically different locations but because the northern hemisphere is pointing in a different direction to ours. Because the earth is round.

Go outside. Look into a powerful telescope at night and try and identify our closest planet neighbor. It is clearly round. As is every other known planet in our solar system. Why would every known planet in our solar system be round and ours flat?

The suggestion our planet is flat is aggressively stupid. Therefore it is obvious this is a troll thread. Why the mods haven't taken it down yet is beyond me. By allowing this nonsense to dwell here surely opens the door to other hoax BS. Which cheapens the genuine stuff on these boards.

How is the FES causing you any harm?
It's not like we are taking to the streets forcing ball lovers to believe the earth is flat.

 

[Chism]

Therefore it is obvious this is a troll thread. Why the mods haven't taken it down yet is beyond me. By allowing this nonsense to dwell here surely opens the door to other hoax BS. Which cheapens the genuine stuff on these boards.

Just because you do not believe in it ( i also don't FWIW and you make some excellent points ) this place is an outlet for those thoughts and allowed to be freely discussed by the boards rules.

If you don't like the topic just don't read this thread.

 

[Wedge McManus]

Just because you do not believe in it ( i also don't FWIW and you make some excellent points ) this place is an outlet for those thoughts and allowed to be freely discussed by the boards rules.

If you don't like the topic just don't read this thread.

I get that. I do understand that to express an opinion means having to cop others. I really do. The difference here in this thread is that the earth does not need to be proven round. It's not even up for debate. This is what worries me about this precedent setting thread. If mods allow something that is less an opinion and more straight hoax then they will have to allow literally anything here, dressed up as "opinion".

Do you see what I mean? That's why this is an obvious troll. Some bright spark started a thread in the cricket forums last week spouting off that Don Bradman couldn't score a run today. It was laughable but from what I read before it got deleted, the bloke (or female) stuck to their story. Clearly a troll but the poster defended it till the end. If the cricket mods can keep common sense sacred there why not here?

 

[Chism]

I get that. I do understand that to express an opinion means having to cop others. I really do. The difference here in this thread is that the earth does not need to be proven round. It's not even up for debate. This is what worries me about this precedent setting thread. If mods allow something that is less an opinion and more straight hoax then they will have to allow literally anything here, dressed up as "opinion".

Do you see what I mean? That's why this is an obvious troll. Some bright spark started a thread in the cricket forums last week spouting off that Don Bradman couldn't score a run today. It was laughable but from what I read before it got deleted, the bloke (or female) stuck to their story. Clearly a troll but the poster defended it till the end. If the cricket mods can keep common sense sacred there why not here?

I am hearing you but they are 2 totally different unrelated topics.

Some people do seriously believe the earth is flat and they even tell everyone they have members all over the globe as well.......

We cater for opinions on here and in this sub forum discussion is allowed on the topic and it is what it is.

 

[Wedge McManus]

I am hearing you but they are 2 totally different unrelated topics.

Some people do seriously believe the earth is flat and they even tell everyone they have members all over the globe as well.......

We cater for opinions on here and in this sub forum discussion is allowed on the topic and it is what it is.

Ok mate. I take on board your comments. I'll keep quiet on it from now on. But a fair few of the "advocates" are deadset trolling. And the genuine ones had better be commensurately tolerant of the other side of the argument. That's my peace. I'll stay out of here

 

[Procrastinator35]

Ok mate. I take on board your comments. I'll keep quiet on it from now on. But a fair few of the "advocates" are deadset trolling. And the genuine ones had better be commensurately tolerant of the other side of the argument. That's my peace. I'll stay out of here

A good first step would be for you to learn the difference between human perception versus human conception.

From the human perspective the earth is indeed flat.....Hence the basis & rationale for the argument to begin with.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

I put a marble on the ground today and it didn't move.

 

[Procrastinator35]

I put a marble on the ground today and it didn't move.

Interesting.

Did you know that we're all actually walking around hanging upside down on a big marble?....True story.

 

[Harvey Manfrenjensenden]

Interesting.

Did you know that we're all actually walking around hanging upside down on a big marble?....True story.

My friend in Altona put a stick in the ground and then I put a stick in the ground in East Bentleigh.

Turns out he's poor

 

[Procrastinator35]

My friend in Altona put a stick in the ground and then I put a stick in the ground in East Bentleigh.

Turns out he's poor

He should feel consoled by the fact that at least he's not a stick in the mud....Careful you don't poke someone's eye out.

 

[RobbieK]

No, a tonne is a tonne....However a nautical mile is different to a land mile, you silly.....The fallacy from analogy….and you can't even get your analogies commensurate for starters anyhoo…..Corr blimey.

I pointed out earlier the difference and the cause of it.

You said the difference between the two was down to tides and currents and that people can walk faster than they swim. Can you explain how these effects "lengthen" a mile at sea? Or explain why these issues would effect a plane?

 

[Procrastinator35]

I pointed out earlier the difference and the cause of it.

You said the difference between the two was down to tides and currents and that people can walk faster than they swim. Can you explain how these effects "lengthen" a mile at sea? Or explain why these issues would effect a plane?

You also stipulated that the difference that accounts for the nautical mile was due to the earth's sphericality….and yet, a land mile remains constant, right the way down from the Northern tip of Canada to the Argentine Patagonian region.....That's a lot of 'sphericality' to account for & justify any difference.

 

[RobbieK]

You also stipulated that the difference that accounts for the nautical mile was due to the earth's sphericality….and yet, a land mile remains constant, right the way down from the Northern tip of Canada to the Argentine Patagonian region.....That's a lot of 'sphericality' to account for & justify any difference.

What is a "land mile"?

There are two unrelated units of measurement here. A mile and a nautical mile. The former is based off a commonly accepted length of an adult's pace. The latter is based on a one minute arc of latitude. Both measure distance, be it over land or sea, they just do so with different units which are based off a different foundational principle.

As a mile is based on a set distance between two points in space, a straight line, why should it ever change in distance?

 

[deanc]

Are you going to tell your grand daughter you concentrate on topics you don't even believe in lol.

I'm thinking of starting up an Anti-Gravity Club. The AGC we be commonly known as the 'floaters'.
Any tips on getting this off the ground, pun intended?

I mean do you guys at FES base your rhetoric on debunking actual science or do you just focus more on faith and belief like most religions do?

Grateful your advice.

 

[Procrastinator35]

What is a "land mile"?

There are two unrelated units of measurement here. A mile and a nautical mile. The former is based off a commonly accepted length of an adult's pace. The latter is based on a one minute arc of latitude. Both measure distance, be it over land or sea, they just do so with different units which are based off a different foundational principle.

As a mile is based on a set distance between two points in space, a straight line, why should it ever change in distance?

Obviously we're speaking theoretically here....As the Crow flies, so to speak....It wouldn't.

 

[darthbards]

I'm thinking of starting up an Anti-Gravity Club. The AGC we be commonly known as the 'floaters'.
Any tips on getting this off the ground, pun intended?

I mean do you guys at FES base your rhetoric on debunking actual science or do you just focus more on faith and belief like most religions do?

Grateful your advice.

At the FES we have differing views regarding why we don't just "float" about.
One field of thought is the earth is effected by a repulsion force from a parallel universe while another is that the earth is effected by a magnetic field. This has been discussed in great detail during the thread.

Interestingly old science spends billions of dollars annually on LIGO,but despite the huge budget they have come up with zero,sounds like a bit of a scam to be honest.

If you want to go the anti gravity route,I'd suggest you try to uncover what is really going on at LIGO and go from there.

 

[RobbieK]

Obviously we're speaking theoretically here....As the Crow flies, so to speak....It wouldn't.

So why were you suggesting it should?

You seem to have an issue with the fact that the word "mile" is contained within both "mile" an "nautical mile". The fact the word is used in both terms doesn't make them in any way related, beyond the fact that they are both units of measurement. There isn't a "land mile" and a "nautical mile" in the sense that one length, a mile, is different depending on whether you are on land or on sea. You can measure by miles over water. You can measure by nautical miles over land. The relationship is similar to that between a yard and a meter - both are measuring distance, both measure a reasonably similar amount of distance, but they have a fundamentally different basis for the unit and they are unrelated.

 

[Procrastinator35]

So why were you suggesting it should?

You seem to have an issue with the fact that the word "mile" is contained within both "mile" an "nautical mile". The fact the word is used in both terms doesn't make them in any way related, beyond the fact that they are both units of measurement. There isn't a "land mile" and a "nautical mile" in the sense that a one length, a mile, is different depending on whether you are on land or on sea. You can measure by miles over water. You can measure by nautical miles over land. The relationship is similar to that between a yard and a meter - both are measuring distance, both measure a reasonably similar amount of distance, but they have a fundamentally different basis for the unit and they are unrelated.

Cheers for clearing that up for me....Yes, it does seem strange to use the same term interchangeably for different measures though.....as you note yourself, a mile & a yard are 2 different terms for 2 different measures....Very odd that.

 

[NEGAN]

I pointed out earlier the difference and the cause of it.

You said the difference between the two was down to tides and currents and that people can walk faster than they swim. Can you explain how these effects "lengthen" a mile at sea? Or explain why these issues would effect a plane?

I am not well versed in the nautical mile navigation so forgive me if I get things wrong.

1. do they use the arbitrary distance or the long/lat lines as the guide as with the Gleason map which is also accurately used to navigate?

The circumference of the Earth....which the nautical mile is based on has it ever been confirmed/proven via measurement?

 

[iBeng]

How is the FES causing you any harm?
It's not like we are taking to the streets forcing ball lovers to believe the earth is flat.

Ignorance leads to more ignorance, and ignorance itself can be very dangerous.

Just ask Samoa how they feel being ignorant about vaccines.