The forward line

[Jack-Packenham]

Is there any chance that one of our forwards will have a shot from 40 or 50 metres out rather than look to pass it off to a player in a similar position. Kingsley, Gardiner, Playfair and Steve Johnson don't look comfortable at all from the set shot and this has to be a huge concern.

With Mooney coming in (hopefully for Gardiner) and Harley back in the side, maybe Moons can be the Centre Half Forward. Playfair can be part of the rotation with Ottens and King into full forward. Kiingsley's form must be a huge concern for all.

 

[The Hulkster]

For once Jack i tend to agree with you.

Henry is battling the only thing he does is provide a target, he doesnt even do that very well.

As for Kent. Well ok he hasnt had much of the footy but at least he could do some 1 percenters.

 

[catempire]

Not going to happen. Bomber has acknowledged over the past two weeks how important it is to have Henry at CHF for... wait for it Jack... STRUCTURE!

During the call on Friday night, Dermott mentioned how important H was on a couple of occasions. Interesting coming from a champion CHF...

Mooney has been tried time and time again at CHF and has failed. His best role is to have no set position, especially not a key post forward or back. Have him coming off the square or thrown on the ball to mix it up.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

No doubt that Henry adds a heap of structure to our side. We looked very ordinary without him (apart from the Kangaroos game).

Kingsley has got to fire up this week. After his 8 goal haul in Round 2, he has gone goalless three games straight.

 

[joolerylovesbigh]

Jack - Henry's 50 games is coming up soon , provided he stays injury free (because he won't be dropped ) it'll be at the game vs Essendon. I've booked my flights, care to join me for a drink afterwards?

 

[Highbury 4ever]

Not going to happen. Bomber has acknowledged over the past two weeks how important it is to have Henry at CHF for... wait for it Jack... STRUCTURE!

During the call on Friday night, Dermott mentioned how important H was on a couple of occasions. Interesting coming from a champion CHF...

Mooney has been tried time and time again at CHF and has failed. His best role is to have no set position, especially not a key post forward or back. Have him coming off the square or thrown on the ball to mix it up.

Totally agree.


This week, Mooney should be given a licence to play on the ball in the same way he did against Melbourne in last year's final.

 

[GeeCat]

Mooney has been tried time and time again at CHF and has failed. His best role is to have no set position, especially not a key post forward or back. Have him coming off the square or thrown on the ball to mix it up.

I'm sure we're all familiar with his value around the grounds, but I think we can expect to see (re I'd like to see it) alot more of Moons in the forward line.

One of our best contested marks, can actually kick straight, and has shown he can lead from the front where it matters most - in the forward half (see NAB vs Adelaide).

 

[catempire]

I'm sure we're all familiar with his value around the grounds, but I think we can expect to see (re I'd like to see it) alot more of Moons in the forward line.

One of our best contested marks, can actually kick straight, and has shown he can lead from the front where it matters most - in the forward half (see NAB vs Adelaide).

Yeah, I've got no problem with him heading to the goalsquare every now and then. He's very dangerous there. But maketh a CHF it does not. He doesn't present well and he doesn't lead particularly well so he's not well suited to CHF. He's very good one on one though, so the goalsquare suits him better. I think everyone agrees though that he's far more dangerous when he's closer to the ball.

 

[FatCat]

I'd reckon any player is at their most dangerous when they're in the vicinity of the ball.
But you're right, Moons is better up in the square.
We might have queries about some of their form, but imagine the prospect of matching up Ottens, Kingsley, Mooney, Playfair, Chapman and Ablett in the forward 50, plus King dominating in the middle at the opening bounce.
All of them are patchy, but all have to be given attention or else they could destroy the opposition.

 

[catempire]

I'd reckon any player is at their most dangerous when they're in the vicinity of the ball.But you're right, Moons is better up in the square.
We might have queries about some of their form, but imagine the prospect of matching up Ottens, Kingsley, Mooney, Playfair, Chapman and Ablett in the forward 50, plus King dominating in the middle at the opening bounce.
All of them are patchy, but all have to be given attention or else they could destroy the opposition.

Hilarious.

 

[Turbocat]

Question? How much has the Big Hairy one played on the forwardline along side Ottens?
I think Cam has shown the continual drain of the grappling backman tends test his metal but in the past he has been asked to be the number one target.With Ottens deep , H as the key lead, KK on wheels surely Cam could be a dangerman for us.
Maybe he could rotate with the other Cam , give a run on the ball just to release him a bit and allow Ling to show his forward nous a bit more. Ling is very good set shot but he doesnt seem to do it enough these days. Yes I know he missed one the other day but generally he is solid.

 

[nananana catman]

Last 2 weeks havent really suited Kinglsey; The Melbourne game was wet and he doesnt get near it the rain, while last week was a scrap fest, and he isnt up for that sort of riffraff.

Hopefully the MCG stays dry on Saturday night and he can enjoy the wide open expanses of it.

 

[LongBomb]

Pretty sure rain is forecast for Saturday.

 

[chapmanmagic35]

Last 2 weeks havent really suited Kinglsey; The Melbourne game was wet and he doesnt get near it the rain, while last week was a scrap fest, and he isnt up for that sort of riffraff.

Hopefully the MCG stays dry on Saturday night and he can enjoy the wide open expanses of it.

Good points...although most forwards are quite similar in that way.

He has got to find a way to be a presence even when he is not getting the ball.

 

[GeeCat]

But maketh a CHF it does not. He doesn't present well and he doesn't lead particularly well so he's not well suited to CHF. He's very good one on one though, so the goalsquare suits him better. I think everyone agrees though that he's far more dangerous when he's closer to the ball.

Agreed, though mine was more in reference to him "not [playing in] a key post forward". Leave him free to roam from the top of the square (effectively our "full forward" for some parts).

Just gives us another option up forward if/when we choose to deviate from the usual forward setup (which doesn't work for me for the most part - too predictable too often). Contested marking has improved in leaps and bounds; would take a fool to not take advantage of that.

In more ways than one, our injuries up front over the past few months have been blessings in disguise (okay, perhaps it was merely the upside of the situation). Not only have we become more enlightened of the capabilities of Moons, but we've seen the other options in guys like Gaz if we choose to leave him one out in the square.

 

[Copernicus]

I think the addition of Mooney will make our forward line much more potent this week due to his ability to play so many roles. He can relieve KK or H and be dangerous. I just hope that the those two, and KK especially, can pick up their game as well. If King plays out a decent amount of the game maybe Ottens can rest up forward too. We just need to improve the delivery and we'll be a five goal better side.

 

[shahla_selena]

i say bring in mooney and drop kingsley. he's as good as useless out there at the moment.

 

[Jack-Packenham]

Playing Kent as a decoy might be the way to go this week. Let him lead Clement up to the 50 metre line and just kick it to the square to Ottens, Mooney and Henry. Must keep Clement out of the play.

 

[catempire]

Playing Kent as a decoy might be the way to go this week. Let him lead Clement up to the 50 metre line and just kick it to the square to Ottens, Mooney and Henry. Must keep Clement out of the play.

For a change, I agree with you Jack. That's a sensational tactic (in other words, one our coaching staff are unlikely to think of).

 

[tusk]

i say bring in mooney and drop kingsley. he's as good as useless out there at the moment.

Surely you'd drop Charlie before KK. He's had a couple of shockers but he is our leading goal scorer and lasts weeks game was hardly suited to his style of leading out of the square.

If the weather conditions hold up on Saturday night I think you'll see him taking a few marks on the lead and hopefully converting a few.

 

[thehoff]

Surely you'd drop Charlie before KK. He's had a couple of shockers but he is our leading goal scorer and lasts weeks game was hardly suited to his style of leading out of the square.

If the weather conditions hold up on Saturday night I think you'll see him taking a few marks on the lead and hopefully converting a few.

Ablett and Chapman are our leading goal scorers.

I agree with Jack. Gotta keep Clement out of the play. Play Kingsley and a decoy and keep him leading to dead pockets and up on the wing.

 

[Partridge]

Surely you'd drop Charlie before KK. He's had a couple of shockers but he is our leading goal scorer and lasts weeks game was hardly suited to his style of leading out of the square.

I agree that Gardiner has to go first. However I wouldn't cry if Kingsley was axed. 3 successive goalless games from an alleged key forward is nothing short of disgraceful.

And let Mooney roam wherever he wants. That's where his best footy has been.

 

[Jack-Packenham]

I agree with Jack.

I might frame this comment.

 

[TheTimeCometh]

jack:


Hoff! - a-ah - saviour of the universe
Hoff! - a-ah - he'll save everyone of us
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Hoff! - a-ah - he's a miracle
Hoff! - a-ah - king of the impossible

 

[Prodigal Sons]

I'm told that Kent may well be dropped to find some touch in the two's....

Despite being goalless the last few weeks there is a bigger concern over the inability to lock the ball into the forward line and blokes running off him. I was at the game last Friday and noticed the amount of time he spent arguing at umpires and abusing team mates for not kicking it to him.....

Kent ..... the tribe has spoken ----- it's time for a rest !!!!!