Tertiary and Continuing The Law Thread

[LouisCK]

I certainly find it useful enough in the sense it helps my union work and understanding the Fair Work Act, Enterprise Bargaining etc. so it hasn't been completely useless so far.

But having started as a mature age student with a decade of experience in the private sector, the whole "constructing an argument" and "research skills" benefit to studying a law degree hasn't really been of much use.

 

[QS]

Wouldn't even bother to call myself a lawyer until I'm admitted. Even then you're just beginning the learning.

I'm doing it because I have a love of the law rather than to call myself a lawyer, legal practitioner etc.

 

[Black Diamond]

I've been calling myself a lawyer for a few months now even though I have a two years to go. I like to see people's reactions (one chick: you must be a genius) and I'm hoping that verbalising it will make it materialise.

But seriously, I have two years left and just quit my job to get the degree finished.

 

[BomberFletch31]

In my experience, it's other people calling me a lawyer, even though I'm not admitted yet. I find that I have to keep stressing that I'm not yet a lawyer after someone has introduced me as "the lawyer".

I've graduated, done College of Law, just doing my time as a law graduate before admission. Hopefully not long

 

[the harry]

I've been calling myself a lawyer for a few months now even though I have a two years to go. I like to see people's reactions (one chick: you must be a genius) and I'm hoping that verbalising it will make it materialise.

But seriously, I have two years left and just quit my job to get the degree finished.

So you're half way through your degree? You'll get the same/similar reaction saying you study law, although getting in early with the lying is probably good practice for when/if you finish.

In my experience, it's other people calling me a lawyer, even though I'm not admitted yet. I find that I have to keep stressing that I'm not yet a lawyer after someone has introduced me as "the lawyer".

I've graduated, done College of Law, just doing my time as a law graduate before admission. Hopefully not long

Yeah same. It's hard to explain to some people that after the degree and the CoL, there is still more to do before being a lawyer, and that's without explaining what a restricted practicing cert is too.

 

[Impunity!]

I've been calling myself a lawyer for a few months now even though I have a two years to go. I like to see people's reactions (one chick: you must be a genius) and I'm hoping that verbalising it will make it materialise.

But seriously, I have two years left and just quit my job to get the degree finished.

You better have tapped that. Post pics.

 

[Black Diamond]

You better have tapped that. Post pics.

She thought I was gay.

 

[Black Diamond]

Has anybody here combined law with science with any degree of success?

 

[checkraiseulite]

I know plenty of people who have combined law/science. Definitely can be done, but I question why people do it unless they're undecided entering uni.

I think quite a few of the boutique IP firms have a preference for combined science/engineering grads though if that's an area you're interested in.

 

[Black Diamond]

I know plenty of people who have combined law/science. Definitely can be done, but I question why people do it unless they're undecided entering uni.

I think quite a few of the boutique IP firms have a preference for combined science/engineering grads though if that's an area you're interested in.

To be honest, I don't see why it's different to doing law and arts.

But anyway, I'm in my fifth year of uni and have really made a mess of my degree so far. I'm more naturally suited to science and so this semester I'm combining two law subjects with a chemistry and psychology subject.

 

[LouisCK]

Law Science is a ripper I reckon. Law Arts... well there's a lot of overlap, as Law is basically just a shitter version of an Arts degree.

 

[checkraiseulite]

To be honest, I don't see why it's different to doing law and arts.

not sure i'm qualified to comment having done comm/law but the two things i'd say would be

(a) science is probably a lot harder than arts (and comm) and given the state of the law grad market the opportunity costs of studying for science as opposed to law subjects may not be worth it.

(b) arts probably has a lot more of a common skill base with law than science, in that in both law and arts you can bullshit an answer you have no/little idea about for at least some marks. i think that science may be more black and white,

it's probably no different, but it's easier to have an 80 arts average than a 80 science average. at the end of the day that will look better on your resume when in reality both matter little

 

[Impunity!]

Law Science is a ripper I reckon. Law Arts... well there's a lot of overlap, as Law is basically just a shitter version of an Arts degree.

rJ, you poseur. Don't ever change little fella

 

[LouisCK]

Haha that ain't posing bro. Arts is heaps more fun than Law.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Only doubles worth doing are Eng or Comm with Law.

Humanities and generalist degrees are a waste of time, nothing more than an interesting diversion from the tedium of the meal ticket law degree.

 

[LouisCK]

Only doubles worth doing are Eng or Comm with Law.

Humanities and generalist degrees are a waste of time, nothing more than an interesting diversion from the tedium of the meal ticket law degree.

Depends really. Arts is good for critical thinking, but you do get a lot of that in Law too.

And if you're wanting to go the diplomatic route and apply for grad programs with DFAT etc. Arts can be good.

Is Law really that much of a meal ticket anyway? If you aren't a SonofReep type legal wunderkind, it probably won't help all that much to have a law degree imo. Looks good on the cv, yeah. But most law grads aren't going to be lawyers.

 

[Smell The Glove]

Depends really. Arts is good for critical thinking, but you do get a lot of that in Law too.

And if you're wanting to go the diplomatic route and apply for grad programs with DFAT etc. Arts can be good.

Is Law really that much of a meal ticket anyway? If you aren't a SonofReep type legal wunderkind, it probably won't help all that much to have a law degree imo. Looks good on the cv, yeah. But most law grads aren't going to be lawyers.

Compared to Arts it is. Law teaches you all the critical thinking you need without doing an Arts degree (though the standard of "critical thinking" in any of these leftist institutions is questionable). Law is essentially a glorified Arts degree. I would also say that unless that Arts degree has a language component (and why wouldn't you do a Dip. in Languages anyway?) DFAT probably aren't going to look on it any more favourably that any other degree together with Law.

Comm and Eng both teach you a skill set pretty far removed from Law, and are valuable professional qualifications in their own right. Arts doesn't lead to a profession in and of itself.

As a meal ticket? Depends on if you want to practice law or not, even if you don't it is still seen as a valuable degree, much moreso than Arts. And most grads will and do become lawyers. Its those who go on to actually practice without dropping out I think you are referring to.

 

[LouisCK]

Oh yeah I wasn't suggesting Arts is a better career option than Law. Unless you want to be career academic or a diplomat or something, and even then a Law degree can lead into both of those roles too.

 

[Colin D'Cops]

Has anybody here combined law with science with any degree of success?

Not sure of anyone and don't do it myself (Law/Bus).

I'd imagine a heap would though considering many Uni's offer it.

 

[checkraiseulite]

You've probably got a better shot at working at minter's than DFAT (in a role you'd actually want) with a standard law/arts degree imo.

 

[Hatchy1992]

Hi all you legal experts - If I want a career in the International or Human Rights arena arena (ie - UN or whatever) will a paralegal degree help me? Or am I just wasting 3 years of my time at the moment doing something that will make no difference whatsoever?

 

[checkraiseulite]

Hi all you legal experts - If I want a career in the International or Human Rights arena arena (ie - UN or whatever) will a paralegal degree help me? Or am I just wasting 3 years of my time at the moment doing something that will make no difference whatsoever?

how many languages do you speak?

 

[Hatchy1992]

how many languages do you speak?

One that I know of. Just English. Why?

 

[Impunity!]

Hi all you legal experts - If I want a career in the International or Human Rights arena arena (ie - UN or whatever) will a paralegal degree help me? Or am I just wasting 3 years of my time at the moment doing something that will make no difference whatsoever?

No, international lawyers and human rights lawyers need secretaries too.

 

[Hatchy1992]

No, international lawyers and human rights lawyers need secretaries too.

Thanks, but I don't actually want a career in the legal industry, hence the question. Would the course give me an advantage for my future employment prospects?