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Hatchy1992 said:
Thanks, but I don't actually want a career in the legal industry, hence the question. Would the course give me an advantage for my future employment prospects?
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No. Paralegal course probably won't even really help you be a paralegal.

If you want to do UN work (and you're not alone) learn languages and do a law or IR degree. And then get extremely lucky.
 
checkraiseulite said:
No. Paralegal course probably won't even really help you be a paralegal.

If you want to do UN work (and you're not alone) learn languages and do a law or IR degree. And then get extremely lucky.
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So im more or less wasting my time? I realise UN is a bit ambitious so I mean just anywhere in the international field such as foreign affairs or is that even ambitious in itself?
 
Hatchy1992 said:
So im more or less wasting my time? I realise UN is a bit ambitious so I mean just anywhere in the international field such as foreign affairs or is that even ambitious in itself?
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I would focus on adding a Diploma of Languages and getting some extracurricular work in some of the pro bono legal organisations (PILCH, CLCs etc). Not familiar with paralegal courses, but can only speculate they are some awkward hybrid between Law and an administration qualification (assuming it is a degree).

Networking is absolutely crucial- particularly if you don't have a degree with an open pathway into a profession.
 

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SonOfReep said:
What sort of job are you actually looking for?
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Was actually considering a career in the International European area as a long term goal but short term I was looking at a career in an NGO as a stepping stone sort of thing.
 
Smell The Glove said:
I would focus on adding a Diploma of Languages and getting some extracurricular work in some of the pro bono legal organisations (PILCH, CLCs etc). Not familiar with paralegal courses, but can only speculate they are some awkward hybrid between Law and an administration qualification (assuming it is a degree).

Networking is absolutely crucial- particularly if you don't have a degree with an open pathway into a profession.
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Was actually planning on working in the legal aid area after my current degree for a few years then look into an International career anyway. It is a Bachelor of Legal/Justice studies. Will qualify me to work in law admin/legal aid etc.
 
Hatchy1992 said:
Was actually planning on working in the legal aid area after my current degree for a few years then look into an International career anyway. It is a Bachelor of Legal/Justice studies. Will qualify me to work in law admin/legal aid etc.
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Can you transfer into a Bachelor of Laws?
 
SonOfReep said:
Can you transfer into a Bachelor of Laws?
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I have the correct GPA at the moment but don't particularly want to transfer. I'm still considering it.
 
Hatchy1992 said:
I have the correct GPA at the moment but don't particularly want to transfer. I'm still considering it.
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I'd also consider the HECS. Its easy to dismiss, but when you have a couple of hundred dollars come out of your pay each week to cover a 52K debt, its not nice.

Only study whatever you HAVE to study.
 
Smell The Glove said:
I'd also consider the HECS. Its easy to dismiss, but when you have a couple of hundred dollars come out of your pay each week to cover a 52K debt, its not nice.

Only study whatever you HAVE to study.
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The most HECS you ever pay back is 8 cents in the dollar and that's only when you are earning above 60k.

I'm going to max my hecs out with my current studies (89k) but it's the best debt you'll ever have really. You don't make any payments until earning over 40 odd k, any interest is negligible, and can die with it and it dissolves.
 
the harry said:
The most HECS you ever pay back is 8 cents in the dollar and that's only when you are earning above 60k.

I'm going to max my hecs out with my current studies (89k) but it's the best debt you'll ever have really. You don't make any payments until earning over 40 odd k, any interest is negligible, and can die with it and it dissolves.
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Interest is not negligible - it is indexed BEFORE the end of the financial year so unless you make voluntary repayments it likely doesn't disappear for a long time. And it is silly to max out HECS - you hit yourself twice by delaying earning coin while increasing your debt.

Unless you are the type to mooch off the public teat anyway. You're last line gives a little away in that regard.;)
 
Smell The Glove said:
Interest is not negligible - it is indexed BEFORE the end of the financial year so unless you make voluntary repayments it likely doesn't disappear for a long time. And it is silly to max out HECS - you hit yourself twice by delaying earning coin while increasing your debt.

Unless you are the type to mooch off the public teat anyway. You're last line gives a little away in that regard.;)
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The interest rate is very low relative to any other debt that you will ever encounter. My last line shows that it's unlike other debt, in that the risk attached relative to the rewards is out of whack when compared to any other debt.

I don't really think I'm doing a bad thing by doing a masters after a double undergrad, taking 6 years of uni, rather than a 3 year under. A 3 year under delays earning coin for a long time when some employers now expect something more to even let you through the door.

Sure, there may be issues if you rack it up in a wasteful manner, but law degrees are rarely wasteful.
 

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Hey Guys

I have completed a Bachelor of Business (Accountancy) from RMIT, and am currently working in the Insolvency area and have a bit over one years experience. My job is 90% law based (corps act + bankruptcy act) and have found that this is what I enjoy the most, and am currently considering going back to Uni to do law.

My marks at Uni were just OK (averaged a mid to high credit IIRC) as I was quite lazy during my studies, but i'm hoping the actual work experience will help. Chances of getting into Melbourne Uni for a masters of law/ JD? I haven't looked into it too deeply as of yet as this is only an initial thought process, but what are the differences between those two?

I see you have to do the LSAT for the JD but not the masters? Why's that?

Also, any general advice regarding this potential change from someone who has been in a similar position would be appreciated.

Cheers
 
LBJ6 said:
Hey Guys

I have completed a Bachelor of Business (Accountancy) from RMIT, and am currently working in the Insolvency area and have a bit over one years experience. My job is 90% law based (corps act + bankruptcy act) and have found that this is what I enjoy the most, and am currently considering going back to Uni to do law.

My marks at Uni were just OK (averaged a mid to high credit IIRC) as I was quite lazy during my studies, but i'm hoping the actual work experience will help. Chances of getting into Melbourne Uni for a masters of law/ JD? I haven't looked into it too deeply as of yet as this is only an initial thought process, but what are the differences between those two?

I see you have to do the LSAT for the JD but not the masters? Why's that?

Also, any general advice regarding this potential change from someone who has been in a similar position would be appreciated.

Cheers
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A JD is just a law degree, that you do after doing a non-law undergrad degree. If you were to look elsewhere to do a JD, you would have classes with undergrad law students.

A masters of law is the course undertaken after the completion of a law degree or JD. This is why you don't need the LSAT for the masters, as you have to have completed a JD/law degree prior.

I can't give you advice on your particular situation, but law, generally speaking, is pretty interesting and enjoyable to study.
 
LBJ6 said:
Hey Guys

I have completed a Bachelor of Business (Accountancy) from RMIT, and am currently working in the Insolvency area and have a bit over one years experience. My job is 90% law based (corps act + bankruptcy act) and have found that this is what I enjoy the most, and am currently considering going back to Uni to do law.

My marks at Uni were just OK (averaged a mid to high credit IIRC) as I was quite lazy during my studies, but i'm hoping the actual work experience will help. Chances of getting into Melbourne Uni for a masters of law/ JD? I haven't looked into it too deeply as of yet as this is only an initial thought process, but what are the differences between those two?

I see you have to do the LSAT for the JD but not the masters? Why's that?

Also, any general advice regarding this potential change from someone who has been in a similar position would be appreciated.

Cheers
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Speaking as a lawyer, lawyers pull more hot tail than accountants, apart from this one guy I know who runs an accountancy firm, his GF is smoking hot, but they met at the gym (he's a bodybuilder) so it's more the exception rather than the rule.

So yeah go back to uni and do law
???
PROFIT
 
LBJ6 said:
Hey Guys

I have completed a Bachelor of Business (Accountancy) from RMIT, and am currently working in the Insolvency area and have a bit over one years experience. My job is 90% law based (corps act + bankruptcy act) and have found that this is what I enjoy the most, and am currently considering going back to Uni to do law.

My marks at Uni were just OK (averaged a mid to high credit IIRC) as I was quite lazy during my studies, but i'm hoping the actual work experience will help. Chances of getting into Melbourne Uni for a masters of law/ JD? I haven't looked into it too deeply as of yet as this is only an initial thought process, but what are the differences between those two?

I see you have to do the LSAT for the JD but not the masters? Why's that?

Also, any general advice regarding this potential change from someone who has been in a similar position would be appreciated.

Cheers
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If that fails, become an actor instead.
 
SonOfReep said:
Speaking as a lawyer, lawyers pull more hot tail than accountants, apart from this one guy I know who runs an accountancy firm, his GF is smoking hot, but they met at the gym (he's a bodybuilder) so it's more the exception rather than the rule.

So yeah go back to uni and do law
???
PROFIT
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Police do better than lawyers...
 

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SonOfReep said:
Speaking as a lawyer, lawyers pull more hot tail than accountants, apart from this one guy I know who runs an accountancy firm, his GF is smoking hot, but they met at the gym (he's a bodybuilder) so it's more the exception rather than the rule.

So yeah go back to uni and do law
???
PROFIT
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Haha, speaking as a lawyer! I love it.

I'm married to a lawyer and have met many over the last 20 years and one thing they all have is confidence bordering arrogance.

I've met very few senior lawyers who can engage in conversation with us common folk and even the misses acknowledges this.

Make the most of it whilst your young, because my guess is once you start doing the 5am - 11pm days you'll wish you spent more time living out your youth.

Moneys good, but you can make the same money doing half the work
 
Why is there a height restriction on being admitted to practice? I'm 180cm but have been told you have to be 150cm or under?
 

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