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I think, as Carlton showed last night they have assembled a pretty handy list now. SPS is coming into his powers and Martin looks to have finally found his mojo. Cripps is as good as Fyfe/Martin/Bont Weitering is looking elite, Fisher and others are very classy. Even Levi is handy now. They are on the up.
I don't dispute the thesis of your post but I think Carlton are very underrated on this board. Their last quarter last night they were easily handling Richmond at times, just inconsistent.
The problem for me is that Carlton has been assembling good lists on paper for a lot of years and just not delivering. They have had a lot of high draft picks and have done ever since they were penalised for salary cap breaches and collapsed into a basket case. The talent at the club has been undoubted for a number of years, but the revolving door of coaches amid unrealistic expectations has cruelled them. Whether Teague holds the job is questionable given the expectations being thrown around the media for them to "pop" this year.

As far as last night's comeback against Richmond, I am sure if it was us in Carlton's position we would have recognised that Richmond put the cue in the rack in the second quarter and just did enough from there on. Every time they were challenged they would throw Cochin and Martin in the middle and score a couple of quick goals. If I was a Carlton supporter I would not be taking a lot of heart from last nigh - not to say they won't improve, but I have my doubts.

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I feel like that game follows the same script most years. Richmond smash them early then go into cruise control allowing Carlton to get close but not close enough.

Makes for a really boring game. I'd rather Richmond keep their foot on the throat and smash them by 100.
 
I feel like that game follows the same script most years. Richmond smash them early then go into cruise control allowing Carlton to get close but not close enough.

Makes for a really boring game. I'd rather Richmond keep their foot on the throat and smash them by 100.
Really dumb game to keep having as the season opener.
 

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I think it's worth noting that Carlton actually put out quite an old and experienced round 1 team.
With an average of of 25 years, 10 months, and 102 games experience.
Last year they would've been older than everyone except Richmond, Collingwood, Adelaide, Hawks.
They would've been more experienced than everyone except Richmond, Collingwood, Adelaide, Hawks, Sydney.
 
The problem for me is that Carlton has been assembling good lists on paper for a lot of years and just not delivering. They have had a lot of high draft picks and have done ever since they were penalised for salary cap breaches and collapsed into a basket case. The talent at the club has been undoubted for a number of years, but the revolving door of coaches amid unrealistic expectations has cruelled them. Whether Teague holds the job is questionable given the expectations being thrown around the media for them to "pop" this year.

As far as last night's comeback against Richmond, I am sure if it was us in Carlton's position we would have recognised that Richmond put the cue in the rack in the second quarter and just did enough from there on. Every time they were challenged they would throw Cochin and Martin in the middle and score a couple of quick goals. If I was a Carlton supporter I would not be taking a lot of heart from last nigh - not to say they won't improve, but I have my doubts.

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Agree with this.

Don't forget the "Chosen 1's" in Murphy, Gibbs and Kruezer.
 
anyone else notice that the Carl/Rich score was really high. I know the numbers 81 to 105 are a typical good game but this is with 16min quarters instead of 20. That's nearly 200 points in 2/3rds the time. I only caught the last quarter but the defense seemed unusually light and maybe due to no crowd but it seemed more like a training drill where they didn't want to get injuries, than a battering game between two teams desperate to win. I will say the skills were pretty clean though aside from Carlton doing a Freo (of the Pearced years) and just booting it high and long towards F50 resulting in Richmond racing back the other way.
 
Every year we get another Richmond vs Carlton fizzer to start the season, the more bizzare and random us and Collingwood opening the season at Etihad in 2014 seems..
 
IF... the Blues dare to think they've made progress on the back of Thursday's 24-point loss to reigning premier Richmond ...
THEN ... stop it. Immediately. Yes, there were injuries to key players and the comeback was OK. But that's all it was, OK. And when the game was there to be won, it was the Blues of 2019, and '18, and '17, and '16, and '15, and …

 
I feel like that game follows the same script most years. Richmond smash them early then go into cruise control allowing Carlton to get close but not close enough.

Makes for a really boring game. I'd rather Richmond keep their foot on the throat and smash them by 100.
I reckon Richmond just keeping the petrol tickets in case we play multiple weekly games. You could see their effort drop in the second half until Carlton got within 15. Then they clicked it back into gear.
 

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Colin Young is so full of shit. Footy players will be like everyone else, they are going to get a massive haircut.
If clubs go under, footy players will be paid less.
 
Coops didn't like what he saw today. Might have to improve for next week, in case he's even more scathing.

 
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