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The WAFL rule that could further delay Josh Treacy’s Fremantle Dockers debut
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Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Mon, 15 March 2021 6:40PMComments
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Josh Treacy will be forced to wait for his Dockers debut.

Josh Treacy will be forced to wait for his Dockers debut. Credit: Daniel Carson/AFL Photos/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Josh Treacy’s potential Fremantle debut could be on hold until at least round five due to a technicality in the WAFL rules.
The rookie Dockers forward was offered a two-match striking suspension by the WAFL Match Review Panel for an incident which left Perth recruit Brady Grey concussed in Saturday’s pre-season clash in Mandurah.
But, according to rule 6.8.11, Treacy will have to serve the ban in the WAFL home-and-away season, which doesn’t still until a fortnight after the AFL.
Fremantle have until 3pm on Tuesday afternoon to appeal the suspension, but it will cost them another week if unsuccessful.
The club could also apply to the league for a special exemption for Treacy to serve the ban in Fremantle’s first two AFL matches, against Melbourne (at the MCG on Saturday) and GWS (at Optus Stadium on March 28), instead of waiting until the opening fortnight of Peel Thunder’s campaign.

Former West Coast swingman Beau Maister was another victim of this rule more than a decade ago, with a WAFL bye, Claremont bye and AFL split round setting his hopes of a top-flight return back several weeks after a two-game rough conduct ban.

“A person who is suspended or disqualified by the tribunal shall serve such suspension or disqualification in the grade in which the person participated immediately prior to such suspension or disqualification,” the rule states.

“If any person participates in another association whether affiliated or not, whilst still under suspension, that person’s original penalty will automatically be doubled.

“Unless otherwise specified by the WAFL tribunal in exceptional circumstances, where a person is suspended or disqualified by the tribunal, such suspension or disqualification shall apply to all Australian football competition matches.”
The high tackle, which ended former Docker Grey’s day and will keep him sidelined until round one against West Coast at Mineral Resources Park on April 3, was assessed as intentional conduct, medium impact and high contact.

The offence was classified as a three-match ban, down to two with an early guilty plea.

The West Australian understands the WAFL Match Review Panel investigated vision of the incident after Perth’s request for a Notice of Investigation.

The suspension is a disastrous outcome for the Dockers, with Treacy firming for an opening-round AFL berth against the Demons on the back of a strong pre-season.

Fremantle have already lost fellow tall Rory Lobb to a knee injury, while first-choice ruckman Sean Darcy (also knee) is no certainty to play round one.

Midfielder Darcy Tucker went down with another hamstring injury playing for Peel at the weekend, joining Michael Walters (hamstring), Bailey Banfield (ankle), Mitch Crowden (calf) and Michael Frederick (calf) in the Dockers’ casualty concerning casualty ward.
 
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The WAFL rule that could further delay Josh Treacy’s Fremantle Dockers debut
Headshot of Jordan McArdle

Jordan McArdleThe West Australian
Mon, 15 March 2021 6:40PMComments
Jordan McArdle

Josh Treacy will be forced to wait for his Dockers debut.

Josh Treacy will be forced to wait for his Dockers debut. Credit: Daniel Carson/AFL Photos/AFL Photos via Getty Images

Josh Treacy’s potential Fremantle debut could be on hold until at least round five due to a technicality in the WAFL rules.
The rookie Dockers forward was offered a two-match striking suspension by the WAFL Match Review Panel for an incident which left Perth recruit Brady Grey concussed in Saturday’s pre-season clash in Mandurah.
But, according to rule 6.8.11, Treacy will have to serve the ban in the WAFL home-and-away season, which doesn’t still until a fortnight after the AFL.
Fremantle have until 3pm on Tuesday afternoon to appeal the suspension, but it will cost them another week if unsuccessful.
The club could also apply to the league for a special exemption for Treacy to serve the ban in Fremantle’s first two AFL matches, against Melbourne (at the MCG on Saturday) and GWS (at Optus Stadium on March 28), instead of waiting until the opening fortnight of Peel Thunder’s campaign.

Former West Coast swingman Beau Maister was another victim of this rule more than a decade ago, with a WAFL bye, Claremont bye and AFL split round setting his hopes of a top-flight return back several weeks after a two-game rough conduct ban.

“A person who is suspended or disqualified by the tribunal shall serve such suspension or disqualification in the grade in which the person participated immediately prior to such suspension or disqualification,” the rule states.

“If any person participates in another association whether affiliated or not, whilst still under suspension, that person’s original penalty will automatically be doubled.

“Unless otherwise specified by the WAFL tribunal in exceptional circumstances, where a person is suspended or disqualified by the tribunal, such suspension or disqualification shall apply to all Australian football competition matches.”
The high tackle, which ended former Docker Grey’s day and will keep him sidelined until round one against West Coast at Mineral Resources Park on April 3, was assessed as intentional conduct, medium impact and high contact.

The offence was classified as a three-match ban, down to two with an early guilty plea.

The West Australian understands the WAFL Match Review Panel investigated vision of the incident after Perth’s request for a Notice of Investigation.

The suspension is a disastrous outcome for the Dockers, with Treacy firming for an opening-round AFL berth against the Demons on the back of a strong pre-season.

Fremantle have already lost fellow tall Rory Lobb to a knee injury, while first-choice ruckman Sean Darcy (also knee) is no certainty to play round one.

Midfielder Darcy Tucker went down with another hamstring injury playing for Peel at the weekend, joining Michael Walters (hamstring), Bailey Banfield (ankle), Mitch Crowden (calf) and Michael Frederick (calf) in the Dockers’ casualty concerning casualty ward.
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Ok so let him serve the 2 or 3 matches in the WAFL season. They surely cannot take a potential 2 match suspension and turn it into 5. The clause says you have to serve the suspension in the grade in which the offence occurred. That is WAFL grade. It is manifestly wrong to double a penalty based purely on which level you played at.
 
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Ok so let him serve the 2 or 3 matches in the WAFL season. They surely cannot take a potential 2 match suspension and turn it into 5. The clause says you have to serve the suspension in the grade in which the offence occurred. That is WAFL grade. It is manifestly wrong to double a penalty based purely on which level you played at.
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Yeah I don't get it, the penalty is doubled in the WAFL, so why can't they just ignore the WAFL completely.
 

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Yeah I don't get it, the penalty is doubled in the WAFL, so why can't they just ignore the WAFL completely.
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The AFL won't let us. If the WAFL complained to the AFL the AFL would keep him out in accordance with WAFL rules.

Its a great example of why any state league is inappropriate as an AFL reserves competition. The various leagues aren't aligned in terms of playing dates, rules, and player status (ie, amateur & semi-pro playing against full pros) and so provide a very sub-optimal preparation for fringe players
 
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Will check it out.
So what do we call hogan instead?
Heaven's Gate?
Waterworld? (I didn't mind that one with the smokers losing)

On SM-G960F using BigFooty.com mobile app
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If you do watch it, let me know if you liked it. For what it was I was in stitches. Some quality unintentionally funny moments
 
JLo media conference - Darcy might be one more week.
Confident on Cez, Serong and Ryan

 

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Passed Gill McLachlan today in Melbourne - he was surrounded by about 6 grey haired men in suits. (In hindsight I think one was Steve hocking). Gill is a giant of a man - wonder could we tog him out to play KPF this weekend? 😂
I said “watch out for freo this year, we’ll make the 8” he just laughed and said “don’t know about that!”
 
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Passed Gill McLachlan today in Melbourne - he was surrounded by about 6 great haired men in suits. (I’m hindsight I think one was Steve hocking). Gill is a giant of a man - wonder could we tog him out to play KPF this weekend? 😂
I said “watch out for freo this year, we’ll make the 8” he just laughed and said “don’t know about that!”
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We'll make the eight if Gil wants us to make the eight
 


Dylan Buckley podcast that provides a season review.

Really interesting because Michael Barlow and Tommy Sheridan join him and Tony Armstrong (ex-Sydney)

Basically 4 guys drinking beer and talking footy. But they all just happen to be recent ex-players.

Not at lot about Freo, but Tom Sheridan goes hard for Tabs to be AA. About the 20 min mark. About the 45 min mark Barlow and Buckley rag Sheridan about his dropped mark in the 2015 PF. Which just shows footy players get over that kind of stuff faster than BigFooty.
 
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I know we complain a lot about our WA journalists but there is one over in the East they may trump them all for sheer dumbness. I speak of course of Nic Negrepontis who seems to have used up all his IQ capacity just being able to spell his own name.

You don't need to read his latest article "The 13 Players Key to Carlton Rising Up the Ladder", you can get everything you need from the title. I only question why he didn't choose all 22 best 22 players? When you are only willing to whittle it down to 13 why even bother at all?

There's also some pretty thought provoking gems inside the article like "but if Carlton makes finals it will be because of internal improvement". Shit, really? So teams make finals when they improve? Enlightening. Next he'll be telling us scoring more goals than the opposition is how you win games!

The 13 players key to Carlton rising up the ladder

If Carlton makes finals, it will be in part because of these 13 players.
www.sen.com.au www.sen.com.au
 
Titus gets it. That last sentence
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A highly unhelpful guide to Round One

The only guide to the round that admits it’s completely unhelpful. What it lacks in insight, it makes up for with wild theories and detours onto unrelated
www.titusoreily.com
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