The mind games begin

[Bay Pie]

Eade must be more concerned then I initially thought if he needs to play mind games to try and get an edge, with his team selection.

Cats out of the bag know, but I'd be surprised if we hadn't planned for Hahn & Johnson to play anyway.

The Dogs are my tip for the flag and the Pies don't win it, I hope they do, but I'm quite confident of winning on Sunday.

 

[Optimax]

Hence why I said very quick Google search.

you'd be surprised how hard it is to fin d ANY clanger stats, let alone stats one ONE player who retired 2 years ago.

I regularly read articles and stats throughout footy seasons, and repeatedly saw Licca topping the clanger count. But off the bat, I'm going off memory.

But like I said in my post, I can do some digging, which I have been, but as I said, clanger stats are hard to find. AFL website is behaving funny here.

So in short you can't find shit?

I assumed as much

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

Yep, because Google searches, Fox sports articles (Sydney based company) and newspaper articles always tell the truth.

Seriously, anyone who "bags" Licuiria or O'Bree for what they have given for this football club really do need to be questioned for their alliance.

This is exactly what I mean about this place being nothing more than a circle jerk.

Who said anything about questioning 'what they've given to the club'?

I talked about his clangers and THAT'S all. I never questioned anything else. I never had a go about him personally, or even as a footballer in general.

Surely you can't tell me Paul Licuria was known for his quality disposal are you?

Also, how else do you suggest I find stats or any kind of info possible on clangers right now?

 

[Cousin of Daicos]

So in short you can't find shit?

I assumed as much

Awesome response.

From our own archives, this came up from Round 3 of 2005. Total clangers for the year to Round 3, might have to go back through more.

Clangers
Shane Crawford (H) 18
Paul Licuria (Co) 17
Stuart Maxfield (sy) 17
Jason Johnson (E) 15
Chance Bateman (H) 15
Rhyce Shaw (Co) 14
Adam McPhee (E) 14
Josh Carr (F) 14
Justin Longmuir (F) 14
Aaron Hamill (St) 14

Hopefully we haver more to go through in the BF Archives.

 

[Optimax]

Awesome response.

I agree short, sharp and concise. Can't ask for much more in a response post

 

[DoggyStyle]

buckley comes back too early from a hamstring and leaves the ground after redoing before half time

Oh shit i see what you are getting at a captain returns back from injury early and re-injures himself? leaving his side a man down and over run

It just goes to show how one eyed you can become as a supporter. I don't remember round 1 2005 for Buckley doing his hamstring, infact I was totally oblivious to the fact.

Round 1 2005 Johnno had been out for the majority of pre season games as he badly sprained his ankle in an earlier pre season game and was not tipped to play until rounds 3 or 4.

My post was in reference to this fact and certianly not an attempt to hang it on buckley.

 

[Pie eyed]

Awesome response.

From our own archives, this came up from Round 3 of 2005. Total clangers for the year to Round 3, might have to go back through more.

Clangers
Shane Crawford (H) 18
Paul Licuria (Co) 17
Stuart Maxfield (sy) 17
Jason Johnson (E) 15
Chance Bateman (H) 15
Rhyce Shaw (Co) 14
Adam McPhee (E) 14
Josh Carr (F) 14
Justin Longmuir (F) 14
Aaron Hamill (St) 14

Hopefully we haver more to go through in the BF Archives.

You have to admit Licca was in good company.

 

[Optimax]

It just goes to show how one eyed you can become as a supporter. I don't remember round 1 2005 for Buckley doing his hamstring, infact I was totally oblivious to the fact.

Round 1 2005 Johnno had been out for the majority of pre season games as he badly sprained his ankle in an earlier pre season game and was not tipped to play until rounds 3 or 4.

My post was in reference to this fact and certianly not an attempt to hang it on buckley.

I remember it clear as day, once he went off you guys just had too much run for us. Round 1, warm day and one man down always going to struggle

 

[Optimax]

You have to admit Licca was in good company.

It was after round three regardless

 

[Zahki]

Whoever red carded Shpeshal Ed was a bit heavy handed. He was being pessimistic but at least he was backing up his argument, a little debate never hurt anyone.

 

[Optimax]

Whoever red carded Shpeshal Ed was a bit heavy handed. He was being pessimistic but at least he was backing up his argument, a little debate never hurt anyone.

I think it was the circle jerk and fantasy land lines

 

[absy]

He deserved it imo, nobody can say what he said seriously has to be a troll

 

[popathon]

I think it was the circle jerk and fantasy land lines

This place can get pretty bad sometimes with the Collingwood love. It happens time and time again when people like Shpeshal Ed, that dude with the eye on a skateboard for an avatar, actually say a bad word against the players/coaches or the administration. Usually it's the people who are saying negative things about the pies that back up their arguments with facts and well written posts while occasionally the other side of the fence reply with "you're not a pies supporter, get lost troll".

Anyway as to my comment on Eagleton i didn't bother with stats as stats are useless a lot of the time. I'm willing to conceed i was wrong but thinking back on the last few games Eagletons speed and massive boot gave us trouble.

 

[Dancing Dougy]

Yep, because Google searches, Fox sports articles (Sydney based company) and newspaper articles always tell the truth.

Seriously, anyone who "bags" Licuiria or O'Bree for what they have given for this football club really do need to be questioned for their alliance.

This place is like a cult You're either with us or you're against us... heaven forbid someone present an argument with valid reasoning, you'll be shot down in flames.

This is the only forum that is majority BS. Every other forum allows... and do you believe it... even encourages debate.

Hats off to you Shpeshal Ed, you're one of the few level headed Collingwood supporters worth reading.

 

[Optimax]

This place is like a cult You're either with us or you're against us... heaven forbid someone present an argument with valid reasoning, you'll be shot down in flames.

This is the only forum that is majority BS. Every other forum allows... and do you believe it... even encourages debate.

Hats off to you Shpeshal Ed, you're one of the few level headed Collingwood supporters worth reading.

Firstly this is the collingwood board so our doings have nothing to do with you.

Second look at the thread that got locked, look how far off topic that thread got, look at the main two protagonists, I think you'll find Ed was carded fir a good reason.

Now if you don't like the board may I pleasently tell you to **** off and bitch and moan elsewhere? Especially considering you're a dog supporter it shouldn't bother you

 

[Snag Breac]

This place is like a cult You're either with us or you're against us... heaven forbid someone present an argument with valid reasoning, you'll be shot down in flames.

No, but this place is:

www.holypies.com

 

[smiddaz123]

I made the bolded stamtement because it seems ok for everyone else to make far more ridiculous statements about me without any sort of consequence, not sure why I can't do that same.

Is this guy for real?

Shit, I'VE never made ridiculous statements about you. I'VE never said any crap about you not being a real supporter.

Because some other people say it about you, does it give you the right to attack WHOEVER you want?

What's next? Some guy in a suit makes fun of you, so you have the right to punch all guys that wear suits in the face?

If the moderators were doing their job here, there'd much more legitimate discussion going on as opposed to what appears to be nothing more than a circle jerk about how great Collingwood is.

There is plenty of level headed discussion here. Plenty.

I honestly don't CARE who got the Brownlow votes against us. The last time I recall Brad Johnson doing any GENUINE damage against us was many many years ago.

Haha. And it just backs up my argument that you really do struggle to watch football properly. Johnson has played well against us. This is backed up by the fact he was given Brownlow votes. That doesn't necessarily mean he was in the top 3 players, but it definitely indicates he played very well.

The fact you can't concede that you were wrong about Johnson speaks volumes about you.

For whatever reason, everytime I think of the Bulldogs straight away Eagleton and Cooney pop into my head (and after last year, Lake). Both those players stick out in my mind as players I remember hurting us at crucial points in many recent Bulldogs clashes.

I'm terribly sorry if my opinion doesn't match up with yours, I'll do my best to be more compliant in the future.

And you don't think the fact that Eagleton has barely touched the ball when he's played Collingwood contradicts this? As well as the fact nobody else seems to recall Eagleton doing anything at all against us?

I enjoy the football when I'm AT THE FOOTBALL. I'm not at the football right now, I'm not caught up in the emotion and the fun of it. I'm at work posting from a computer.

See, I don't think you do. I think you only enjoy football when your team is better than any other team.

I'm not obliged to only say nice things and get excited about Collingwood here.

Of course not. But you have absolutely no right to attack everyone else for being excited.

Are you that unhappy with your own life that you can't stand to see anyone else excited?

 

[Dancing Dougy]

Firstly this is the collingwood board so our doings have nothing to do with you.

Second look at the thread that got locked, look how far off topic that thread got, look at the main two protagonists, I think you'll find Ed was carded fir a good reason.

Now if you don't like the board may I pleasently tell you to **** off and bitch and moan elsewhere? Especially considering you're a dog supporter it shouldn't bother you

Like others, I like to spend the week before a game between the doggies forum and our oppositions to get opinions from both sides. Maybe it's because it's the first game of the year and expectations are up, but I've found this place painful.

And yes yes yes, bitch and moan elsewhere. But majority of you must feel the same way, don't you ever just want to have a sensible discussion rather than a slag fest. I'm sure I'm as one eyed about the Doggies as you are about the Pies, but I still have the ability of impartiality.

 

[Dancing Dougy]

No, but this place is:

www.holypies.com

ha ha ha... oh dear You're all mad!!!

 

[Bay Pie]

This place is like a cult You're either with us or you're against us... heaven forbid someone present an argument with valid reasoning, you'll be shot down in flames.

This is the only forum that is majority BS. Every other forum allows... and do you believe it... even encourages debate.

Hats off to you Shpeshal Ed, you're one of the few level headed Collingwood supporters worth reading.

Valid reasoning

So the PF game is an indication of where we are at?

Ed didn't take into account 12 players under 22 for that game who'll all be better for the experience and Pendles, Jolly, Ball, Medhurst & Fraser will be playing in round 1.

How could we now, not be a better team then the one that stepped out on PF day?

 

[Pie eyed]

ha ha ha... oh dear You're all mad!!!

You're here Dougy, why not give it a try?

 

[Dancing Dougy]

Was it stated that'd you'd be a worse team this year? Or due to draw fixturing you may not win as many games? Or that other teams may improve more than than the Pies?

Be the above false or true, I find it hard to understand why someone cannot express their opinion with, in their eyes valid reasoning, without being completely shot down with childish, ignorant, simple minded replies.

Why I respect Shpeshal Ed remarks is not purely based on his remarks, but the fact he's done so without the need to demean and slag. He has the right to his opinion just as you have the right to yours.

 

[Pie eyed]

Was it stated that'd you'd be a worse team this year? Or due to draw fixturing you may not win as many games? Or that other teams may improve more than than the Pies?

Be the above false or true, I find it hard to understand why someone cannot express their opinion with, in their eyes valid reasoning, without being completely shot down with childish, ignorant, simple minded replies.

Why I respect Shpeshal Ed remarks is not purely based on his remarks, but the fact he's done so without the need to demean and slag. He has the right to his opinion just as you have the right to yours.

Maybe you should have come on the board regularly over the last 3-4 years. Then you might see a pattern in Ed's posting.
You would also realise that we regularly have debate over many subjects.

 

[smiddaz123]

Why I respect Shpeshal Ed remarks is not purely based on his remarks, but the fact he's done so without the need to demean and slag. He has the right to his opinion just as you have the right to yours.

Except he's done that.

I made the bolded stamtement because it seems ok for everyone else to make far more ridiculous statements about me without any sort of consequence, not sure why I can't do that same.

And tried to back it up by pretty much saying 'it happened to me, so I can do it to everyone else'.

 

[Optimax]

Doug you don't know what you are talking about I recommend winding it up and moving on.

You don't have all the facts none of us care so give up and move on.

On Ed he is a member but he clearly likes rubbishing collingwood, great for him just don't do it here without expecting to be pulled up, which is all smiddaz and myself did