NWO/Illuminati The New World Order Super-Thread

[Baby Duck]

So climate change is a myth, but it's real and the answer to it is suppressed by a secret cabal of rulers who periodically spend their time convincing truthers it's a myth but have spent billions combating it (in secret) to cash in their oil wealth at a time when the US is transitioning from a net oil importer to a net oil exporter thanks to the shale deposits in the south and mid-west?

Ok.

Its a myth only insofar as the reasons they give for it are not real. Geoengineering however is real. Government and military documents often admit that they use HAARP technology and aerosol particulates dumped into atmosphere by jets to dramatically alter weather. The chemtrailing has been going on since 1998 but weather modification was going on well before that.

It makes far more sense for it to be a massive con job than the reason they give for it actually being true. The main giveaway being that its all the average persons fault for driving cars (they dont want anyone to drive), for cows farting (they dont want privately owned farms at all), even just our breathing and very existence is ruining the planet apparently, so we must he taxed into oblivion in order to save the world. Total con.

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The 'Illuminati' is REAL and secretly running our world claims former DEFENCE MINISTER
A FORMER defence minister has sensationally claimed the legendary Illuminati is REAL and secretly running world affairs from behind the scenes.

By Jon Austin PUBLISHED: 06:11, Tue, Feb 13, 2018 | UPDATED: 09:59, Tue, Feb 13, 2018

Paul Hellyer claims the 'Illuminati' are running the world

Paul Hellyer, a former Canadian Minister of Defence, is believed to be the highest-ranking former politician to come out as a believer of the popular conspiracy theory.

As one of the world's biggest conspiracy theories, the Illuminati is said to be a secretive global elite which runs governments from behind the scenes and is planning to introduce a New World Order (NWO).

Its key members are said to be drawn from Hollywood and world political and business leaders, with some even accusing its true leaders of being reptilian lizards from space.

Accusations vary in extremities from the simple implementation of the NWO as a goal at the least, to the Illuminati being a highly Satanic cult seeking to return the devil to earth.

Other than repeated claims by conspiracy theorists, which have ballooned in number since the growth of the internet, there is no actual proof the Illuminati exists at all.

However, in a podcast, Mr Hellyer, who was in post in the 1960s, said the Illuminati, at least at its most basic concept, was real and all powerful.

He said corrupt hidden leaders continue to wage needless wars and focus on profits, rather than stopping climate change.

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Paul Hellyer believes a secret global elite runs the world.
You have a got secret cabal that’s actually running the world and they’ve managed to keep this technology under wraps until they can cash in the trillions of oil assets that they’ve got.

Paul Hellyer

Mr Hellyer claims the technology to reverse climate change has been developed, but it is supressed by the Illuminati, as most of its key members have big stakes in the fossil fuel industry which they wish to continue for as long as possible.

He said: "You have a got secret cabal that’s actually running the world and they’ve managed to keep this technology under wraps until they can cash in the trillions of oil assets that they’ve got.

"And it’s not going to change until hundreds of thousands of people band together and say look ‘you’ve got to come clean, tell us what is going on, and change your priorities to save the world for further generations instead of blowing it on wars’."

Mr Hellyer joins the ranks of world famous conspiracy theorist David Icke, the former footballer and BBC1 Grandstand presenter, who came out as a so-called "truther" in the 1990s.

He describes the Illuminati as a cabal and the "Hidden Hand" in lectures across the globe.

Paul Hellyer said that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years, with most of them coming from other star systems, although there are some living on Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon. According to him, they "don't think we are good stewards of our planet".

 

[Exe Gesis]

Paul Hellyer said that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years, with most of them coming from other star systems, although there are some living on Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon. According to him, they "don't think we are good stewards of our planet".

Illuminati....sure
Aliens....LMFAO

 

[Baby Duck]

Paul Hellyer said that at least four species of aliens have been visiting Earth for thousands of years, with most of them coming from other star systems, although there are some living on Venus, Mars and Saturn’s moon. According to him, they "don't think we are good stewards of our planet".

Probably a metaphor for the elite groups who really do believe they are a seperate and superior species. In any case, try not to get sucked in by talk of aliens. Intelligence agencies employ people to infiltrate the conspiracy groups and to steer the conversation away from real truth and into the realm of totally unprovable fantasies like flat earth/aliens/ghosts. David Icke is renowned for that sort of nonsense. Theres lots of pied piper types out there.

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Probably a metaphor for the elite groups who really do believe they are a seperate and superior species. In any case, try not to get sucked in by talk of aliens. Intelligence agencies employ people to infiltrate the conspiracy groups and to steer the conversation away from real truth and into the realm of totally unprovable fantasies like flat earth/aliens/ghosts. David Icke is renowned for that sort of nonsense. Theres lots of pied piper types out there.

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In early September 2005, Hellyer made headlines by publicly announcing that he believed in the existence of UFOs. On 25 September 2005, he was an invited speaker at an exopolitics conference in Toronto, where he told the audience that he had seen a UFO one night with his late wife and some friends. He said that, although he had discounted the experience at the time, he had kept an open mind to it. He said that he started taking the issue much more seriously after watching ABC's UFO special in February 2005.

In 2007, the Ottawa Citizen reported that Hellyer is demanding that world governments disclose alien technology that could be used to solve the problem of climate change:

I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation...that could be a way to save our planet...We need to persuade governments to come clean on what they know. Some of us suspect they know quite a lot, and it might be enough to save our planet if applied quickly enough.

 

[Baby Duck]

In early September 2005, Hellyer made headlines by publicly announcing that he believed in the existence of UFOs. On 25 September 2005, he was an invited speaker at an exopolitics conference in Toronto, where he told the audience that he had seen a UFO one night with his late wife and some friends. He said that, although he had discounted the experience at the time, he had kept an open mind to it. He said that he started taking the issue much more seriously after watching ABC's UFO special in February 2005.

In 2007, the Ottawa Citizen reported that Hellyer is demanding that world governments disclose alien technology that could be used to solve the problem of climate change:

I would like to see what (alien) technology there might be that could eliminate the burning of fossil fuels within a generation...that could be a way to save our planet...We need to persuade governments to come clean on what they know. Some of us suspect they know quite a lot, and it might be enough to save our planet if applied quickly enough.

Haha. That bit about using alien tech to combat climate change...that says it all for me. They have been injecting the alien stuff into the minds of the people around the world for a long long time now. Hollywood in particular has been programming folks to believe in aliens since at least the 1940's. Real life imitates art, not the other way around like they say.

Heres a quote from John Dewey (the father of the modern public education system) from 1917 - "Some one remarked that the best way to unite all the nations on this globe would be an attack from some other planet. In the face of such an alien enemy, people would respond with a sense of their unity of interest and purpose."

Heres Reagan parroting the same nonsense many years later at a United Nations conference:


What an odd coincidence it is then that for decades Hollywood have been beating that drum. How many movies have we seen now where the human race has to unite under a central power to combat an alien invasion? All just a coincidence im sure.

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Aliens and alien invasions are all psy-ops. Also part of subverting "Creationism" and Geocentricity

 

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What an odd coincidence it is then that for decades Hollywood have been beating that drum. How many movies have we seen now where the human race has to unite under a central power to combat an alien invasion? All just a coincidence im sure.

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Yeah. Goes back to 1897 with the "War of the Worlds". HG Wells popularised that whole genre.

 

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Aliens and alien invasions are all psy-ops. Also part of subverting "Creationism" and Geocentricity

No. But it was a cracking read back in 1897.

 

[Baby Duck]

Aliens and alien invasions are all psy-ops. Also part of subverting "Creationism" and Geocentricity

Like Sitchin and Von Danikens utter rubbish on the same topic. I really get so fed up with it all to be honest. Its just lie upon lie upon lie.

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Like Sitchin and Von Danikens utter rubbish on the same topic. I really get so fed up with it all to be honest. Its just lie upon lie upon lie.

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Von Daniken grabbed a lot of popular ideas floating about at the time and published them as if they were legitimate.
You could say he was an early model for modern day conspiracy theorists.
Make grandiose statements and hope that the uneducated run with it. He made a lot of money from it.

 

[Baby Duck]

Von Daniken grabbed a lot of popular ideas floating about at the time and published them as if they were legitimate.
You could say he was an early model for modern day conspiracy theorists.
Make grandiose statements and hope that the uneducated run with it. He made a lot of money from it.

Yes he did, and im sure he still does with all his appearances on Ancient Aliens. Im sure he is well rewarded as the best propagandists are. He just followed on from Sitchins body of work. Lots of fantastical claims with little to no substance or hard facts as you say.

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Shifting gears a little...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12182-017-0187-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/an-o...ecause-of-decreasing-demand-2018-4/?r=AU&IR=T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...dis-may-run-out-of-oil-to-export-by-2030.html

https://www.rystadenergy.com/newsevents/news/press-releases/all-time-low-discovered-resources-2017/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790

 

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Shifting gears a little...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12182-017-0187-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/an-o...ecause-of-decreasing-demand-2018-4/?r=AU&IR=T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...dis-may-run-out-of-oil-to-export-by-2030.html

https://www.rystadenergy.com/newsevents/news/press-releases/all-time-low-discovered-resources-2017/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790

When you start mixing real science and real life events with conspiracy theories is the time I put a cap in your head and put you to sleep.

 

[Baby Duck]

Shifting gears a little...

https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12182-017-0187-9

http://www.businessinsider.com/an-o...ecause-of-decreasing-demand-2018-4/?r=AU&IR=T

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance...dis-may-run-out-of-oil-to-export-by-2030.html

https://www.rystadenergy.com/newsevents/news/press-releases/all-time-low-discovered-resources-2017/

https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-minister-sees-end-of-oil-price-slump-1476870790

Phase out fossil fuels, get everyone driving rubbishy electric cars that cost a fortune to charge and a fortune to fix when the batteries play up...still all part of the plan. Guys like Jeremy Clarkson will promote them as being awesome because people will follow his advice.

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[Thrawn]

Are you guys saying that aliens don't exist?

 

[Scallop Industry Thug]

Are you guys saying that aliens don't exist?

I have a meme that says otherwise.

 

[Baby Duck]

Are you guys saying that aliens don't exist?

I am, yes. Flying saucer type craft were invented by the Nazi's as far as I can tell, and were called Foo Fighters by allied pilots. After the war the scientists whom worked on these projects were moved to America and Russia under project paperclip. "Coincidentally" it was not long after that that the world was hit with UFO phenomenon.

As far as abductee's go, I think intelligence agencies like the CIA grab folks and subject them to rigorous brainwashing and false memory implantations.

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[Thrawn]

I am, yes. Flying saucer type craft were invented by the Nazi's as far as I can tell, and were called Foo Fighters by allied pilots. After the war the scientists whom worked on these projects were moved to America and Russia under project paperclip. "Coincidentally" it was not long after that that the world was hit with UFO phenomenon.

As far as abductee's go, I think intelligence agencies like the CIA grab folks and subject them to rigorous brainwashing and false memory implantations.

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I'm not strictly talking about flying saucers, talking about intelligent life outside of this planet. There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, each may have at least one planet orbiting around it. Are you telling us there's no alien life despite these numbers?

 

[Baby Duck]

I'm not strictly talking about flying saucers, talking about intelligent life outside of this planet. There are hundreds of billions of stars in this galaxy alone, each may have at least one planet orbiting around it. Are you telling us there's no alien life despite these numbers?

Odds are there is not. Massive scales dont really mean anything given the extreme unlikelihood of life being sustainable on this planet. Honestly I feel its an irrelevant fantasy to discuss since we will never get the chance to investigate ourselves.

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Odds are there is not. Massive scales dont really mean anything given the extreme unlikelihood of life being sustainable on this planet. Honestly I feel its an irrelevant fantasy to discuss since we will never get the chance to investigate ourselves.

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Life sustained on this planet for millions of years

 

[Baby Duck]

Life sustained on this planet for millions of years

Im skeptical of that too, given that science is politicised and always has been. What is acceptable science is largely dictated by massive grants and also managed by the Royal Society. Any endeavor that falls outside the accepted parameters is called quackery basically. I dont know how old the earth is, but I dont believe it to be billions or six thousand odd years. Theres plenty of refutiting material out there that calls into question the accuracy of dating methods. In any case science is not some paragon of integrity like we are led to believe. Its tainted by money and agendas like anything else really.

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Im skeptical of that too, given that science is politicised and always has been. What is acceptable science is largely dictated by massive grants and also managed by the Royal Society. Any endeavor that falls outside the accepted parameters is called quackery basically. I dont know how old the earth is, but I dont believe it to be billions or six thousand odd years. Theres plenty of refutiting material out there that calls into question the accuracy of dating methods. In any case science is not some paragon of integrity like we are led to believe. Its tainted by money and agendas like anything else really.

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You don't need dating methods to see that fossils captured deep within ancient layers of sandstone indicate that life has been around on this planet for a very very long time.

 

[Baby Duck]

http://www.earthemperor.com/2009/01/08/the-next-million-years-by-charles-galton-darwin/

Great article on how what is accepted science has been largely dominated by family dynasties like the Darwins, the Galtons and the Huxleys, and how science is used by UNESCO to control populations. All these folks were noted eugenicists (evolution IS eugenics) that hated the average person and viewed us like weeds that needed to be uprooted and managed. Margaret Sanger who founded Planned Parenthood was of the same opinion, and was very openly racist. Her legacy of targetting black communities still lives on through PP today. Its quite sad to be able to see this massive control grid in place that literally surrounds and dominates every aspect of our lives. The vast majority cannot see it and refuse to have their protective bubble burst. Its hard to convey to folks that at every turn we have a nearly invisible group of elites trying to poison your mind and body...and being wildly successful at it.

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[Baby Duck]

You don't need dating methods to see that fossils captured deep within ancient layers of sandstone indicate that life has been around on this planet for a very very long time.

Perhaps it has. I dont see what difference it makes however to the here and now. We cannot really know anything with definitive certainty without a time machine, we can only speculate. None of this changes however what we know about the extremely narrow life permitting parameters we have on this planet. Life to me appears to be the result of design rather than mindless natural processes. Natural processes tend toward eventual disorder as things degrade and decay rather continuously building upon itself to make something better.

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