The numpty questions thread

[POBT]

Question on restricted free agency.

Does a player need to nominated his preferred destination and then stick to it?

Say a restricted free agent has 2 clubs interested. Club A is a bottom 4 side but offers him more money. Club B is a top 4 side but offers less money. The player nominates club B because he wants to win a flag. His current club matches club B's offer. Ordinarily, that means the player stays. But can he then say, well, I've also got this other offer from club A which is worth more?

 

[Fatcat08]

I would imagine that if they then say club a has offered me x then and their current club doesn't match it then they would have to go to club a. However I don't have any definitive evidence to support.

 

[dlanod]

Question on restricted free agency.

Does a player need to nominated his preferred destination and then stick to it?

Say a restricted free agent has 2 clubs interested. Club A is a bottom 4 side but offers him more money. Club B is a top 4 side but offers less money. The player nominates club B because he wants to win a flag. His current club matches club B's offer. Ordinarily, that means the player stays. But can he then say, well, I've also got this other offer from club A which is worth more?

With restricted free agents they can only present one offer to their current club to match. That may be one out of however many. If their current club chooses to match it, they are no longer a free agent and are now subject to the same rules as any other uncontracted player.

 

[POBT]

I would imagine that if they then say club a has offered me x then and their current club doesn't match it then they would have to go to club a. However I don't have any definitive evidence to support.

Hmmm, not quite sure that answers what I was asking FC.

Maybe, I'll put it this way.

Cloke is a restricted free agent and wants to leave the Pies.

Carlton offer him $800K a season. Melbourne offer him $1M a season.

Cloke nominates Carlton as his preferred destination. Collingwood match the Carlton offer.

But Cloke doesn't want to stay at Collingwood. Can he then ask Collingwood to match the Melbourne offer?

 

[POBT]

With restricted free agents they can only present one offer to their current club to match. That may be one out of however many. If their current club chooses to match it, they are no longer a free agent and are now subject to the same rules as any other uncontracted player.

Cheers. That makes sense. You only have one bite at the free agency contract.

 

[Fatcat08]

probably should have known to wait for dlanod he's the man when it comes to these sort of things

 

[Baby_Jenks]

Bale out kick or Bail out kick? I've seen both written but surely it must be the later?

 

[dlanod]

Bale out kick or Bail out kick? I've seen both written but surely it must be the later?

Absolutely the second unless it's been featured in a Batman movie.

 

[Cousin Jed]

Latter

 

[Karnezis_13]

OK Question .... why is Geelong's board called "Geelong - Total Footy" and all the other boards are just the club name?

 

[Karnezis_13]

OK Question .... why is Geelong's board called "Geelong - Total Footy" and all the other boards are just the club name?

Too numpty a question to warrant an answer too, or...?

 

[Baby_Jenks]

Quoting yourself qualifies you as numpty so a question from you fits perfectly in this thread.

 

[Karnezis_13]

Quoting yourself qualifies you as numpty so a question from you fits perfectly in this thread.

Consider myself numpty! (Does that even make sense ... if not, also consider me grammatically incompetent!)

 

[POBT]

Am I right that the most a club could get in compensation for a free agent leaving is a first round draft pick immediately following their initial 1st pick?

The premiership club this year will get around pick 22, I believe. So if Collingwood win the flag this year and lose Cloke, they will get something like pick 23?

Actually, the perfect outcome would be for Collingwood to lose the grand final, lose Cloke and get pick 22!

 

[dlanod]

Am I right that the most a club could get in compensation for a free agent leaving is a first round draft pick immediately following their initial 1st pick?

The premiership club this year will get around pick 22, I believe. So if Collingwood win the flag this year and lose Cloke, they will get something like pick 23?

Actually, the perfect outcome would be for Collingwood to lose the grand final, lose Cloke and get pick 22!

The AFL has explicitly said that free agency compensation won't be as generous as the GWS/GC compensation and that the most will be one first round pick. However whether that means one per free agent lost or one per trade period, who knows.

 

[Football Pope]

Am I right that the most a club could get in compensation for a free agent leaving is a first round draft pick immediately following their initial 1st pick?

The premiership club this year will get around pick 22, I believe. So if Collingwood win the flag this year and lose Cloke, they will get something like pick 23?

Actually, the perfect outcome would be for Collingwood to lose the grand final, lose Cloke and get pick 22!

Not sure if it's straight after their pick, or it's at the end of the 1st round, or it's a priority pick to compensate.. It will depend on the perceived value of the player(s) to that team..We'll find out soon enough if Melbourne lose Rivers and Maloney this year and get nothing in return.. Interesting to see how the AFL-determined formula will apply where clubs lose more free agents than they gain in any single transfer period.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

Anyone know why my Bigfooty has the wrong time on posts....?

 

[whatboutbob]

Anyone know why my Bigfooty has the wrong time on posts....?

What time zone have you set here?

 

[whatboutbob]

Am I right that the most a club could get in compensation for a free agent leaving is a first round draft pick immediately following their initial 1st pick?

The premiership club this year will get around pick 22, I believe. So if Collingwood win the flag this year and lose Cloke, they will get something like pick 23?

Actually, the perfect outcome would be for Collingwood to lose the grand final, lose Cloke and get pick 22!

Don't know if this has been answered elsewhere, but that's correct.

Link

The free agency system has five ''bands'' of compensation. The highest-ranked players - who will usually have completed eight years and be ''restricted'' free agents - will bring a return of a first-round pick; the next level is an end-of-first-round pick; the third category is a second-round choice; the fourth is an end-of-second-round pick, and the last bracket is a third-round pick.

The AFL has explicitly said that free agency compensation won't be as generous as the GWS/GC compensation and that the most will be one first round pick. However whether that means one per free agent lost or one per trade period, who knows.

Is addressed somewhat in the same article:

Critically, the AFL will award a club ''net'' compensation for losing or gaining a free agent player. Thus, if St Kilda lost Brendon Goddard, but gained another player, the compensation would be based on the difference between the players.
If the player gained is judged to be at the same level to the one lost, the relevant club would receive nothing.

So I assume the limit is per player, rather than trade period.

 

[Chasing the Dream]

What time zone have you set here?

Thanks

I couldn't find that... was getting very confused, some of you peeps were making posts before time!!

Wouldn't mind a trip to American Samoa though

 

[Crimso]

What's a trophy, what can I do with it?

 

[jackess]

The trophies are depressing.

 

[Crimso]

Not if you don't know what they are

 

[Viceregal]

Not if you don't know what they are

I asked on another thread what things like a ruby etc were - the ones that weren't explained - met with a deafening silence alas... *hopes to himself that they didn't get explanations added since and he hasn't noticed*

 

[Viceregal]

Just noticed I have 'Team Captain' under my name ... where does that come from / what does that represent?