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I didn't mind at first, but thinking about it after the interview, I do. Things change.
Know what you mean. My current job I only took the interview out of curiosity really but after the interview I would have been shattered if I didn't get it, while the one I applied for previously ((that I initially really wanted) and didn't get an interview for at all I am now glad that I didn't!
 

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NBA League Pass is absolute brilliant. Having chromecast to put it up on the home theatre is even better!
 

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The US election just became interesting again. It's like the election no one wants to win.
Trump's aides have been desperate to minimise turnout as that's his only hope at victory, this latest issue will just motivate people to get out and vote to ensure she gets over the line.
 

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Trump's aides have been desperate to minimise turnout as that's his only hope at victory, this latest issue will just motivate people to get out and vote to ensure she gets over the line.
Not sure, Trump also has a lot of support who would be more motivated now to go out and vote if the gap closes. Clinton still favourite, but nothing is a guarantee
 

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Not sure, Trump also has a lot of support who would be more motivated now to go out and vote if the gap closes. Clinton still favourite, but nothing is a guarantee
Trump's support was never going to stay home on election day, they were always aware they needed every vote they could get. His aides have been desperate to minimise turnout for a Brexit style upset, where the favourite is so assumed they're going to win, that people don't bother turning out.
 

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Trump's support was never going to stay home on election day, they were always aware they needed every vote they could get. His aides have been desperate to minimise turnout for a Brexit style upset, where the favourite is so assumed they're going to win, that people don't bother turning out.
What you are not considering is the hatred that also exists for Hilary, and apathy as well. It probably does depend on turnout, but if there is further damage to Clinton then a lot of voters who may have gone out to vote for her might not bother. Also all polls in the EU referendum had remain ahead - some considerably. The same thing might happen again
 

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What you are not considering is the hatred that also exists for Hilary, and apathy as well. It probably does depend on turnout, but if there is further damage to Clinton then a lot of voters who may have gone out to vote for her might not bother. Also all polls in the EU referendum had remain ahead - some considerably. The same thing might happen again
But if there's hatred/apathy towards Hilary, why would new issues with her affect those people? People who hate her are already voting Trump, people who are already apathetic towards her will remain unmotivated to vote. You're right additional people may jump off her and stay home, but others who like her but thought "Eh **** it what's the point of voting she's gonna smash Trump" will now be motivated to vote.

That's my entire point. Substitute Hilary with Remain. It's the exact reason why Trump wants people to stay home.
 

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Trump's support was never going to stay home on election day, they were always aware they needed every vote they could get. His aides have been desperate to minimise turnout for a Brexit style upset, where the favourite is so assumed they're going to win, that people don't bother turning out.
Nah quite a bit of Trump's crowd actually aren't even registered to vote, the non-college educated demo that is. He motivated that base but that base can't be ****** registering anyway

Clinton's way ahead in the electoral college predictions, even in Trump's best moments it was still a stretch for him to get to 270. This email thing has come too late with 11 days left

US polling is different to England polling, polling in England's often done in far smaller and more numerous areas with smaller samples that aren't representative, US is different, polling is done way more often, in larger scale and with a large variety of cohorts. They are generally decently accurate. Clinton is way way way ahead in the states she needs to win the election, at best this email means Trump doesn't get bloodbathed as much but he still has no path to 270

Even if people aren't enthused with Clinton coz she's a terrible candidate, Trump has motivated Dem turnout coz he is so damn bad. They're up in early voting turnout compare to 2012 in a lot of swing states
 

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Nah quite a bit of Trump's crowd actually aren't even registered to vote, the non-college educated demo that is. He motivated that base but that base can't be stuffed registering anyway

Clinton's way ahead in the electoral college predictions, even in Trump's best moments it was still a stretch for him to get to 270. This email thing has come too late with 11 days left

US polling is different to England polling, polling in England's often done in far smaller and more numerous areas with smaller samples that aren't representative, US is different, polling is done way more often, in larger scale and with a large variety of cohorts. They are generally decently accurate. Clinton is way way way ahead in the states she needs to win the election, at best this email means Trump doesn't get bloodbathed as much but he still has no path to 270

Even if people aren't enthused with Clinton coz she's a terrible candidate, Trump has motivated Dem turnout coz he is so damn bad. They're up in early voting turnout compare to 2012 in a lot of swing states
Fair call. I just know that the main strategy left to Trump has been to try and discourage voter turn out to hope that his voters will outnumber Hillary's. Obviously hasn't worked.
 

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Fair call. I just know that the main strategy left to Trump has been to try and discourage voter turn out to hope that his voters will outnumber Hillary's. Obviously hasn't worked.
Hilary's voters will have a far higher percentage from minorities, who historically have a smaller voter turnout so apathy is a danger for her.

This has nothing to do with Trump's aids as you keep on insisting. This is to do with her ongoing problems with the FBI and the emails which has knocked her back in the polls. I do expect her to still win though, as the damage to Trump has been greater throughout the campaign and he seems far less presidential. All I said was the campaign had become "interesting" again
 

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To put it in perspective, Hillary Clinton just needs to win Colorado, Pennsylvania, New Hampshire and Virginia to win the election with the way the map has fallen this year. Those states have been steadily blue in the polls for the entirety of the campaign (with the closest being Colorado).

And Clinton's ahead in Nevada and Florida (if she wins Florida it's over), it has one of the biggest Latino population in the US, and they will vote against Trump in droves. She's also ahead in red states like Arizona and North Carolina (with NC very likely to go to her), and Ohio and Iowa are looking like tossups (Clinton doesn't even need those two)

Even if Trump wins all of Ohio, Florida, Nevada, Colorado, North Carolina, Iowa and Arizona just to get to 274. Clinton just needs to win one of those and it's lights out, Trump is pushing shit uphill and have been for a long time

Enthusiasm for Clinton is not great but she has inherited Obama's ground game operations which is probably the best in modern democratic history in the way it drove turnout, whereas Trump has not even bothered to set up proper ground game in vital states like Florida (where the head campaign runner in Florida kept bugging him for that 1.5 mil to set up offices just 6 weeks before election day, but it never came and he got sacked afterwards). There are huge differences in how both campaigns have run its operations professionally and I think it'll tell come Nov 8th
 

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Hilary's voters will have a far higher percentage from minorities, who historically have a smaller voter turnout so apathy is a danger for her.

This has nothing to do with Trump's aids as you keep on insisting. This is to do with her ongoing problems with the FBI and the emails which has knocked her back in the polls. I do expect her to still win though, as the damage to Trump has been greater throughout the campaign and he seems far less presidential. All I said was the campaign had become "interesting" again
Exactly my point, so the more issues with her, the more reason people will come out and vote.

Er, except for things like this: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...mp-aide-we-have-three-major-voter-suppression
 

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Exactly my point, so the more issues with her, the more reason people will come out and vote.

Er, except for things like this: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...mp-aide-we-have-three-major-voter-suppression
"The more issues with her the more people will come and vote"? Not sure about that mate, it may have that affect on some, but it's likely to have a bigger affect on people not voting for her or even switching to Trump. Hence why her 14 point poll lead was cut to 4 points yesterday.
 

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"The more issues with her the more people will come and vote"? Not sure about that mate, it may have that affect on some, but it's likely to have a bigger affect on people not voting for her or even switching to Trump. Hence why her 14 point poll lead was cut to 4 points yesterday.
As I said, it may well lead some on the fencers to jump ship or vote Trump, but people who were apathetic towards voting or thinking she had it in the bag will now come out to vote.

It'll certainly be really interesting, I completely agree it could go either way.
 

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As I said, it may well lead some on the fencers to jump ship or vote Trump, but people who were apathetic towards voting or thinking she had it in the bag will now come out to vote.

It'll certainly be really interesting, I completely agree it could go either way.
Clinton still firm favourite I reckon, but there's bound to more shit dished up (both ways) so things may still change. We just have to wait and see how serious this email thing may prove to be. The fact the FBI have come out now leads me to think it's pretty serious, as had they done it after the election then accusations of withholding vital info to help the Clinton campaign would have been made
 

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It sounds petty, but it's more complex that.

I didn't mind at first, but thinking about it after the interview, I do. Things change.

He is favoured, and unless you've been in a team where there is a clear favourite above everyone else, you don't really know what it's like and how frustrating it is.
Speaking of what's BF's thoughts on this, have I got a right to be pissed off.

So basically I work for a company that owns two brands. We have some people who work for one brand, some the other and some shared services (finance managers, operations team & HR). I'm the finance analyst for one brand. We had a day out at a winery planned months ago for the brand managers final day and a new team get together (the one I work for).

Initially anyone shared service or aligned to that brand were invited. Then an email this week came out from the HR lady who organised it saying it's got out of hand numbers wise and the 5 of us on the email are no longer invited as we; a) are a shared service and/or b) haven't worked with the brand manager for more than a year. All teams that are classified a shared service must reduce the number of people (so most areas went from 4 going to 2) going except for HR which is a team of 1 and she still goes.

The 5 people kicked off; finance manager (shared service), operations manager (shared service), NPD manager (shared service), stock control chick (shared service), finance analyst (works for the brand going).

Initially I didn't mind that much but next day or two and the day they went I was pretty pissed off. Completely disengaged and will no longer go above and beyond until someone offers some sort of apology or explanation because in my mind it's clear as day that I should have gone.
 

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Speaking of what's BF's thoughts on this, have I got a right to be pissed off.

So basically I work for a company that owns two brands. We have some people who work for one brand, some the other and some shared services (finance managers, operations team & HR). I'm the finance analyst for one brand. We had a day out at a winery planned months ago for the brand managers final day and a new team get together (the one I work for).

Initially anyone shared service or aligned to that brand were invited. Then an email this week came out from the HR lady who organised it saying it's got out of hand numbers wise and the 5 of us on the email are no longer invited as we; a) are a shared service and/or b) haven't worked with the brand manager for more than a year. All teams that are classified a shared service must reduce the number of people (so most areas went from 4 going to 2) going except for HR which is a team of 1 and she still goes.

The 5 people kicked off; finance manager (shared service), operations manager (shared service), NPD manager (shared service), stock control chick (shared service), finance analyst (works for the brand going).

Initially I didn't mind that much but next day or two and the day they went I was pretty pissed off. Completely disengaged and will no longer go above and beyond until someone offers some sort of apology or explanation because in my mind it's clear as day that I should have gone.
Yeah that's garbage. HR is such a bullshit role too. Earn decent money for telling adults to behave like adults.

I am not in a good headspace at work at the moment. Gonna stick it out (don't have an option), but some of the crap that goes on is ridiculous.

The other guy going for the same role as me is always whispering stuff with the 2IC. Wtf is that shit.
 
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