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Guess we can extend this to the VFL side...

- We won VFL flags in 2002 and 2007. Why not 2012 as well?
- In 2002, we beat Port Melbourne in the grand final after losing to them in the qualifying final. IIRC, we beat Werribee in the prelim final that year too. This year, we'll play Port Melbourne in the grand final after losing to them in the qualifying final, and a week after beating Werribee in the Prelim.
- In 2007, Melbourne were aligned to Sandringham. Sandringham were the minor premiers, but went out in straight sets. In 2012, Melbourne are aligned to Casey Scorpions, who finished the season minor premiers, but went out in straight sets...
 
1. 6/6 now. Since 2007, possibly earlier, but I'm not counting, the winner of the GF has been the team that has had the better performance in the 2 finals leading up to the GF. Every year. Spooky, almost to the aggregate difference. Maybe Rogers Results can help me out with the exact maths, but in EACH case, almost, the GF teams have played the same 2 teams to get to the GF. I was convinced in 08 about Hawks form v ours, 09, we were better than StK, 2010, Pies ahead on points, 2011, we were ahead of Pies by about the margin we beat them in the GF, ditto today with Swans. September form is winning form.

Is this an omen , or just my lucky formula?

2. Each year for at least 6 years, the winning GF team has lost the 2nd last game. Swans did, Hawks didn't. Seems a fluke, but it maybe a necessary kick up the arse or a pressure release.
 
Apologies if this is frowned upon but its September and its time to dust off a favourite thread of mine. Let them rip guys, make sure you do a better job than last year please ;)
 

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In 2011, Geelong finished 2nd on the ladder, under Collingwood - who lost twice to Geelong during the season (their only losses that year which would of made for an even better omen if Hawthorn didn't lose to Richmond this year to go 18-3).
 
Not to count chickens or anything, but I couldn't help but notice we finished 18-4 again this year. As in 2007 and 2009.

Excellent point.

2007 - 18/4 win/loss record. Premiers.
2008 - 21/1 win/loss record. Runners-up.
2009 - 18/4 win/loss record. Premiers.
2010 - 17/5 win/loss record. Prelim Final.
2011 - 19/3 win/loss record. Premiers.
2012 - 15/7 win/loss record. Elimination Final.
2013 - 18/4 win/loss record. ???

I think the most pertinent thing to take is that you can't afford to lose more than 4 games during home and away. At least in our case. 2010 and 2012 we did and didn't make the Grand Final. Every other year we have.

Does anyone know the stats on average age of our premiership teams v this year's team? And games played? Be curious to know how it looks.
 
Does anyone know the stats on average age of our premiership teams v this year's team? And games played? Be curious to know how it looks.

2007 - 25 years, 180 days
2009 - 26 years, 260 days
2011 - 27 years, 100 days
2013 - 26 years, 280 days
 
In 2009, my first daughter was born
In 2011, my second daughter was born
In 2013, my third daughter is due in December




PS. I did not father any daughters (to my knowledge) in 2007 :D
 

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Since the introduction of the final 8 in 1994 only 3 premierships have been won by teams on 18-4-0 and 19-3-0 after the 'home and away' rounds - Geelong 2007, 2009, 2011.

None of the other w-l-d combinations on the 2013 final ladder have gone on to win any premiership 1994-2012.

(Hawthorn have been premiers every time they previously finished on 19-3-0 - 1971, 1988, 1989.)
 
Possible milestone games for our players if we make the GF are Motlop (currently 48), Bartel (currently 246) and Chapman (currently 249). Chappy is likely to line up for his 250th this weekend so he will not be a milestone man on the last day. Bartel will play his 250th for GF if we have to play 3 lead-up finals or play his 249th for GF if we can progress as we wish. Motlop will play his 50th for GF if he only plays one final in the process to make it.
We have both milestone players and one-match-to-go players in our success. Varcoe(100th in 2011), Mackie(150th in 2011). Corey(199th in 2009), J Hunt (99th in 2007)
 

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Just find another omen. We had Mooney as the birthday boy in 2009 GF. We have another this year: Josh Caddy is turning 21 on GF day. Significantly the couple are both recruited from rival clubs.
 

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