The on topic thread 4.0

[Bojan KantKick]

In ANY capacity?

Was I not clear? If you want political commentary on the BBC you can watch question time. More facts and less opinion on the public tax payer funded broadcaster please.

 

[SM]

Was I not clear? If you want political commentary on the BBC you can watch question time. More facts and less opinion on the public tax payer funded broadcaster please.

I was just clarifying if cameramen are allowed to tweet their thoughts on society under your ideal BBC.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

I was just clarifying if cameramen are allowed to tweet their thoughts on society under your ideal BBC.

I don't think I am asking for too much

 

[SM]

I don't think I am asking for too much

See I dunno, not sure that any employer should have unilateral control over what a person does in their private time.

 

[TheGreatBarryB]

Was I not clear? If you want political commentary on the BBC you can watch question time. More facts and less opinion on the public tax payer funded broadcaster please.

He’s not a political or news reporter. I’d be more concerned that the two men running the BBC are so closely connected to the Conservatives

 

[Bojan KantKick]

See I dunno, not sure that any employer should have unilateral control over what a person does in their private time.

It's a condition of employment. In many industries, employment contracts can be quite restrictive.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

He’s not a political or news reporter. I’d be more concerned that the two men running the BBC are so closely connected to the Conservatives

Even more reason not to talk about politics. You have a fair gripe regarding who is running the BBC. Having issues with one thing doesn't make the other ok though.

 

[SM]

It's a condition of employment. In many industries, employment contracts can be quite restrictive.

No it isn't.

 

[SM]

Even more reason not to talk about politics. You have a fair gripe regarding who is running the BBC. Having issues with one thing doesn't make the other ok though.

Wtf? How is it being unconnected to his work more reason for him to not discuss it on his personal account.

It's not like he's giving sermons mid-MOTD.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

No it isn't.

Adherence to old Aunties social media policy is not a condition of employment?

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Wtf? How is it being unconnected to his work more reason for him to not discuss it on his personal account.

It's not like he's giving sermons mid-MOTD.

Because license fee payers don't want people paid by the BBC to be giving unsolicited opinions about matters they know little about. There is an expectation that people who are employed by the BBC are impartial with regards to their public communications on politics.

 

[99 Problems]

Because license fee payers don't want people paid by the BBC to be giving unsolicited opinions about matters they know little about. There is an expectation that people who are employed by the BBC are impartial with regards to their public communications on politics.

If people follow his Twitter account it’s hardly unsolicited. I don’t think rules need to or will be put in place to allow for people who don’t understand MOTD and Gary Lineker’s personal Twitter page are actually different things.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

If people follow his Twitter account it’s hardly unsolicited. I don’t think rules need to or will be put in place to allow for people who don’t understand MOTD and Gary Lineker’s personal Twitter page are actually different things.

The vast majority of people who follow his social media account do so for his opinion on football. His following on social media has been built on his work at the BBC for MOTD, not his political leanings.

 

[Magma]

Because license fee payers don't want people paid by the BBC to be giving unsolicited opinions about matters they know little about. There is an expectation that people who are employed by the BBC are impartial with regards to their public communications on politics.

if you were going to go by that very few people would ever make it onto telly in any capacity, especially politicians.

 

[RossFC]

 

[99 Problems]

The vast majority of people who follow his social media account do so for his opinion on football. His following on social media has been built on his work at the BBC for MOTD, not his political leanings.

Those people can just unfollow his account if they don’t like it. He’s literally tweeted his views on everything for years, lots of it not about football. This example only blew up into a big ordeal because members of the government got involved because they didn’t like what he said.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Anyone at the BBC should be able to tweet their own opinion. As long as what they produce at the BBC isn't biased/slanted or provides a balanced view it should be fine. Unfortunately in this day and age conservatives think that they are above criticism. One of the most ridiculous takes was that Lineker is on team GB (aka a British person) and therefore he shouldn't be critical of anything that the UK does as it undermines it's standing in the world. Ridiculous, that is the standard conservative nationalism line that borders on facist movements.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

Those people can just unfollow his account if they don’t like it. He’s literally tweeted his views on everything for years, lots of it not about football. This example only blew up into a big ordeal because members of the government got involved because they didn’t like what he said.

And he has been criticised for it for years, including by other BBC employees.

 

[Bojan KantKick]

if you were going to go by that very few people would ever make it onto telly in any capacity, especially politicians.

There are plenty of avenues for employment on other networks not funded by the general public. Current day politicians don't work for the BBC. They are however regularly interviewed by the BBC.

 

[RossFC]

 

[Frank Bunn]

Anyone at the BBC should be able to tweet their own opinion. As long as what they produce at the BBC isn't biased/slanted or provides a balanced view it should be fine.

That's your opinion. I disagree. But either way it doesn't change the terms that Lineker has to adhere to under the terms of his employment. The BBC's social media guidelines were re-emphasised to him when he signed his latest contract. It states that where individuals are primarily associated with the BBC their public expressions of opinion need to be impartial.

Despite the BBC's back down Lineker clearly broke the guidelines around impartiality. And now MOTD, a football show, is politicised FFS.

 

[Bradesmaen]

That's your opinion. I disagree. But either way it doesn't change the terms that Lineker has to adhere to under the terms of his employment. The BBC's social media guidelines were re-emphasised to him when he signed his latest contract. It states that where individuals are primarily associated with the BBC their public expressions of opinion need to be impartial.

Despite the BBC's back down Lineker clearly broke the guidelines around impartiality. And now MOTD, a football show, is politicised FFS.

I mean he already brought politics in it and the BBC had no qualms, when you look at the Qatar world cup. Unfortunately he upset the Tories not Qatar this time.

 

[Frank Bunn]

I mean he already brought politics in it and the BBC had no qualms, when you look at the Qatar world cup. Unfortunately he upset the Tories not Qatar this time.

There seemed to be some consensus around Qatar. There isn't on British immigration policy. And now that contentious issue has been dragged into a football highlights show.

 

[99 Problems]

That's your opinion. I disagree. But either way it doesn't change the terms that Lineker has to adhere to under the terms of his employment. The BBC's social media guidelines were re-emphasised to him when he signed his latest contract. It states that where individuals are primarily associated with the BBC their public expressions of opinion need to be impartial.

Despite the BBC's back down Lineker clearly broke the guidelines around impartiality. And now MOTD, a football show, is politicised FFS.

The entire backdown is because he hadn’t breached the guidelines.

 

[Cruyff14]

If people follow his Twitter account it’s hardly unsolicited. I don’t think rules need to or will be put in place to allow for people who don’t understand MOTD and Gary Lineker’s personal Twitter page are actually different things.

Absolutely this.