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Have only just read the Atheltic interview, cringe worthy stuff. Am amazed he and his representatives/advisors thought that was a good idea. Am assuming the intention was to help rebuild a damaged reputation, however he’s just tarnished it even further in doing so. Embarrassing.
 
Have only just read the Atheltic interview, cringe worthy stuff. Am amazed he and his representatives/advisors thought that was a good idea. Am assuming the intention was to help rebuild a damaged reputation, however he’s just tarnished it even further in doing so. Embarrassing.

You see it so often these days. So often, the best public relations strategy is to shut the eff up and let it blow over. However, fools think they can talk their way out of it and just give the issue more oxygen which makes it worse.
 

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You know the Ballon d'Or is a crap award when you see some of the names listed.

Griezmann, Alvarez, Onana, Martinez, Bounou and Dias have no right being listed. Dias more because of his injury plagued season. Messi is only there because of the WC.
 
You know the Ballon d'Or is a crap award when you see some of the names listed.

Griezmann, Alvarez, Onana, Martinez, Bounou and Dias have no right being listed. Dias more because of his injury plagued season. Messi is only there because of the WC.
It will be going to Haaland.
 
Nah it'll go to Messi. That's obvious enough.

It would be crazy if it does but as you said, the World Cup will be taken into consideration. Haaland smashed everyone in the running this year and he’s continued on this season.
 

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You know the Ballon d'Or is a crap award when you see some of the names listed.

Griezmann, Alvarez, Onana, Martinez, Bounou and Dias have no right being listed. Dias more because of his injury plagued season. Messi is only there because of the WC.

The World Cup is the most prestigious tournament in the game. It's fitting that some weight is given to players' performances during the tournament. Messi is sure to win Ballon D'Or.

Griezmann had a fantastic WC. Defending deep and also linking the mids with the forwards. Club form in LA Liga was 15 goals and 17 assists.
 
The World Cup is the most prestigious tournament in the game. It's fitting that some weight is given to players' performances during the tournament. Messi is sure to win Ballon D'Or.

Griezmann had a fantastic WC. Defending deep and also linking the mids with the forwards. Club form in LA Liga was 15 goals and 17 assists.
Why? Some players can't make the world cup because they play for lesser nations. George Weah never played in a world cup, does that make him a lesser player than others at the time?
 
Why? Some players can't make the world cup because they play for lesser nations. George Weah never played in a world cup, does that make him a lesser player than others at the time?

The WC represents the best players competing against each other - so if your country is not in it you are going to have slim chance of winning the Ballon D'Or in a WC year.

Also that the Ballon D'Or is a bit of a media centric award. If France had won the penalty shoot out then Mbappe would win it.
 
The WC represents the best players competing against each other - so if your country is not in it you are going to have slim chance of winning the Ballon D'Or in a WC year.

Also that the Ballon D'Or is a bit of a media centric award. If France had won the penalty shoot out then Mbappe would win it.
It isn't the best player competing against each other. It's about the best teams competing against each other. Go through the FIFA 100 and you'll see plenty have never won a world cup.
 
It isn't the best player competing against each other. It's about the best teams competing against each other. Go through the FIFA 100 and you'll see plenty have never won a world cup.

You won't find many in that list that haven't competed in a world cup. Good performances in the Euro Championships can also give players a boost in the voting.
 
You won't find many in that list that haven't competed in a world cup. Good performances in the Euro Championships can also give players a boost in the voting.
You're completely missing the point like most people who vote on this. They are an individual in a team. If they play outstandingly well in a WC then sure, but the performance of a team shouldn't be included.
 

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You're completely missing the point like most people who vote on this. They are an individual in a team. If they play outstandingly well in a WC then sure, but the performance of a team shouldn't be included.

When two teams get into the final of the WC there's every chance there are individuals who have performed well at this highest level. But I agree, it shouldn't be the only criteria - Messi and Alvarez had good WCs but didn't exactly set the world on fire in their domestic leagues. De Bruyne and Haaland had much better seasons. My votes would go to Mbappe or Griezmann who had good WCs and also good seasons for their clubs.

Achraf Hakimi was one of the best players at the WC and had a good season at PSG. He might have been excluded from the Ballon d'Or shortlist because of the rape allegations he is facing.
 
When two teams get into the final of the WC there's every chance there are individuals who have performed well at this highest level. But I agree, it shouldn't be the only criteria - Messi and Alvarez had good WCs but didn't exactly set the world on fire in their domestic leagues. De Bruyne and Haaland had much better seasons. My votes would go to Mbappe or Griezmann who had good WCs and also good seasons for their clubs.

Achraf Hakimi was one of the best players at the WC and had a good season at PSG. He might have been excluded from the Ballon d'Or shortlist because of the rape allegations he is facing.
Given how short the WC is, it should barely factor in anything if at all.
 

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