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Ireland and United Kingdom win the hosting of Euro 2028
Going to make sure I apply for tickets to any of the games. Knowing my luck I'll get Albania v Lithuania. (Obviously depending who qualifies).

The worst thing will be deciding qualification. England would normally qualify on their own but Scotland, Wales, Ireland and Occupied Ireland may not so who do the 2 spots go to? Will they risk having 2 hosts not qualify? Hell Casement Park in Belfast hasn't even started to be redeveloped yet.
 
Hoddle is an excellent pundit though, but boy oh boy did he throw Beckham under the bus several times.

That's probably harsh on Hoddle. Becks ****ed up big time. Hoddle didn't blame Becks for the defeat as his mother claimed. The media were after a headline by asking Hoddle if the sending off cost England the game. He replied "It's cost us. It's cost us dearly". I think most managers would respond like that after a silly sending off by one of their players in a big tournament.

I'm half way through the show and loving it. It's great to reminisce - that goal by Michael Owen, the treble by that great team. Seeing Becks as a kid, a young player, and now a mature man. Posh and Becks is great love story.
 
That's probably harsh on Hoddle. Becks ****ed up big time. Hoddle didn't blame Becks for the defeat as his mother claimed. The media were after a headline by asking Hoddle if the sending off cost England the game. He replied "It's cost us. It's cost us dearly". I think most managers would respond like that after a silly sending off by one of their players in a big tournament.

I'm half way through the show and loving it. It's great to reminisce - that goal by Michael Owen, the treble by that great team. Seeing Becks as a kid, a young player, and now a mature man. Posh and Becks is great love story.
He certainly didn't protect Beckham.
 

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That's probably harsh on Hoddle. Becks ****ed up big time. Hoddle didn't blame Becks for the defeat as his mother claimed. The media were after a headline by asking Hoddle if the sending off cost England the game. He replied "It's cost us. It's cost us dearly". I think most managers would respond like that after a silly sending off by one of their players in a big tournament.

I'm half way through the show and loving it. It's great to reminisce - that goal by Michael Owen, the treble by that great team. Seeing Becks as a kid, a young player, and now a mature man. Posh and Becks is great love story.
He certainly didn't protect Beckham.
What Bojan said. Hoddle really didn't do much to help/nurture Beckham. He was only what, 22? at the time. If he was 32 and did that fine, but he was still young, and becoming a massive thing in football. Hoddle didn't do much at all really help the situation.
 
What Bojan said. Hoddle really didn't do much to help/nurture Beckham. He was only what, 22? at the time. If he was 32 and did that fine, but he was still young, and becoming a massive thing in football. Hoddle didn't do much at all really help the situation.

It's not the national manager's job to coddle players. He's only got them for a few days each season. The job is to get players who are performing at the top level for different clubs to gel together.

Hoddle gave a realistic assessment about the Beckham red card. It cost England dearly. Did Becks deserve the acrimony that followed? Of course not.
 


^Great take. This definitely struck me from the audio they released the other day. How casual and ‘matey’ it sounded.

Stark contrast listening to the rugby union refs in the World Cup. I f***ing love it. So professional. No nonsense. Treat the players like school boys, not like your mates at the pub. I wager if we got a few of them into PGMOL (and the AFL while they’re at it), they’d clean the place up in no time.
 


^Great take. This definitely struck me from the audio they released the other day. How casual and ‘matey’ it sounded.

Stark contrast listening to the rugby union refs in the World Cup. I f***ing love it. So professional. No nonsense. Treat the players like school boys, not like your mates at the pub. I wager if we got a few of them into PGMOL (and the AFL while they’re at it), they’d clean the place up in no time.

From the Rugby I have watched they are matey, except when the TMO isn't from their union. It's like the WC for Football, some of the refs are from UEFA, some from CONCACAF etc.
 
It's not the national manager's job to coddle players. He's only got them for a few days each season. The job is to get players who are performing at the top level for different clubs to gel together.

Hoddle gave a realistic assessment about the Beckham red card. It cost England dearly. Did Becks deserve the acrimony that followed? Of course not.
Missing penalties and Campbells disallowed goal cost England more. It was a cheap move to put it all on Beckham.
 


^Great take. This definitely struck me from the audio they released the other day. How casual and ‘matey’ it sounded.

Stark contrast listening to the rugby union refs in the World Cup. I f***ing love it. So professional. No nonsense. Treat the players like school boys, not like your mates at the pub. I wager if we got a few of them into PGMOL (and the AFL while they’re at it), they’d clean the place up in no time.

Generally it is extremely professional. It is funny when France play England in the six nations and the French TV directors don't show any of the footage that would lead to France being disadvantaged haha

I don't agree that they treat the players like school boys though. They treat them with respect and in return get respect back. When the referees aren't treated with respect they get sent off or banned. Here is one example. Red Card and 11 week ban for the England Captain at the time.




If you respect rugby referees, 99/100 they will return that respect. They are happy to have a short conversation at breaks in play to discuss different interpretations of the laws. If football brought in a similar hard line, the game would improve immeasurably both on and off the field.
 

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Campbell’s disallowed goal I haven’t seen in a while, England were fuming at time as I recall whilst they were celebrating the referee allowed play to restart and Argentina almost scored at the other end. Was mayhem.
 

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