The on topic thread

[jod23]

Do you hate Benteke that much?

Ooh fair do's, I even forgot Bentekkers!

I actually like him and desperately want him to do well but he just doesnt fit in.

 

[Zidane98]

Do you hate Benteke that much?

Haha. £32m striker in our 4ths. Only at LFC

 

[Cruyff14]

Why isn't the world class Lucas in the starting line up?

 

[go you pups]

Well they are still Liverpool players even if they are out on loan.

All im saying is you have a thin squad and with CL football coming then you will need to really bolster the squad to compete on four fronts.

Look what happened in the Europa League. For whatever reason Poch decided to rotate the squad and you simply werent up to it. Sure Dortmund are a very good side but you will face plenty of good sides next season in the CL and of course in the league.

What if you have a League Cup game say against City sandwiched inbetween a tough league game against Chelsea away before playing Bayern Munich in the CL or something. You're gonna need better blokes that Mason, Chadli and Carroll to rotate into the squad.

Or what if Dier is suspended, Dembele and Alli are injured. Do you go with Carroll and Mason in midfield, who's on the bench to help or make an impact or if someone gets sent off or there is another injury.

I just think Spurs need some players to come in. It's not even a bad thing. Your first XI is great, thats what is great about the situation, you're not even needing to make key signings and hope they work. You just need a few signings of quality to pad out the squad.

They dont need to be as good as Eriksen or Kane or Alli but they need to be better than Mason and Carroll and Chadli to really complete the squad.

Like take the recent Liverpool v Spurs game that finished 1-1. I was of course very wary of Spurs, you guys are a very good side. But I was only wary of who started on the day. I was never worried about anyone coming off the bench to change the game for Spurs. I was worried about Kane sure, Eriksen, Dier, Alli, good players capable of turning a game. But the bench didnt give the slightest of fears.

The bench that day was Vorm, Trippier, Davies, Mason, Carroll, Onomah and Chadli.

If any of those got up off the bench that day and was getting ready to come on, I was happy about it. It meant one of Spurs really good first XI was coming off. Not worried in the slightest about any of those players coming on and changing the game.

Liverpool on the other hand didnt have Benteke, Firmino, Ings or Origi in the starting XI. Sure a bloke like Ings or Origi wouldnt send shivers down any teams spine but they are capable of coming on and grabbing a goal, changing the game. Origi's pace and movement.

Benteke obviously is a handful and oppositions really should fear Firmino as he is a class.

I mean I'd tip Spurs for the title if next year they line up with the exact first XI as they do now but on the bench they have 3 or 4 guys who can change a game off the bench, the type of guys that worry you when they are set to come on.

You guys brought on Chadli and then Mason late in that game and substitutions are meant to liven up the side, give you a different look, a different option but in all honesty it made you worse.

That fine if you're winning 3-0 at home to Norwich. Bring on whoever you want but when you're at Anfield chasing a goal to try to win to keep your title aspirations alive im sure Spurs would have loved to be able to turn to someone like Firmino or Benteke off the bench to find a winner.

You guys need depth IMO.

We have Pritchard and Yedlin to come back from loan.

Levy deliberately didn't spend much this season, he probably has one eye on the new stadium.

Those guys you mentioned got us through the group stages of EL fine against solid teams who played CL recently like Monaco and Anderlecht. Not worried in the slightest about our squad.

Your squad however, full of fluff attacking mids, dud strikers and potatoes. I wouldn't bother giving an opinion on our squad when our squad has finished ahead of yours 5 times in the last 6 years, about to be 6 in the last 7.

We know we need a couple of attackers who can change a game, won't happen until the window is open.

 

[ADL9798]

Why isn't the world class Lucas in the starting line up?

Because it isn't 2012?

On that note, Henderson out for 6-8 weeks with a LCL injury putting him out for the rest of the season, which means we probably will be seeing a fair bit of Lucas over the next few weeks.

Real shame for Hendo. After outstanding 2013/14 & 2014/15 seasons, this year has basically been a write off for him. That's his 4th separate injury this season (metatarsal fracture in the off season which was probably a contributing factor to the plantar fasciitis and the minor hamstring strain he suffered later in the season), he's only been injured on 2 other occasions for the rest of his 8 year career.

 

[Zidane98]

We have Pritchard and Yedlin to come back from loan.

Levy deliberately didn't spend much this season, he probably has one eye on the new stadium.

Those guys you mentioned got us through the group stages of EL fine against solid teams who played CL recently like Monaco and Anderlecht. Not worried in the slightest about our squad.

Your squad however, full of fluff attacking mids, dud strikers and potatoes. I wouldn't bother giving an opinion on our squad when our squad has finished ahead of yours 5 times in the last 6 years, about to be 6 in the last 7.

If your squad players are so good how come Dortmund gave Spurs an absolute pasting over 2 legs?

 

[Art Vandelay_]

If your squad players are so good how come Dortmund gave Spurs an absolute pasting over 2 legs?

Sigh. Like talking to a chimp.

We have good depth in CB, full backs, GK and even wingers. Alas our central midfield consisted of Carroll. Not going to stop PEA and Reus with a borderline championship midfielder protecting the back 4.

Like Liverpool we need CM and ST this window. We're further advanced however.

 

[go you pups]

If your squad players are so good how come Dortmund gave Spurs an absolute pasting over 2 legs?

2-1 is an absolute pasting

Like all us Spurs fans say, we deliberately didn't turn up and Poch picked very weak teams with an eye on the league both games.

I was disappointed that Poch didn't do this against Fiorentina instead and he should've went hard to win the FA Cup imo.

Dortmund are a better team than anyone in the PL currently, good luck against them in the second leg, but there's still 90 minutes to go.

 

[Zidane98]

Sigh. Like talking to a chimp.

We have good depth in CB, full backs, GK and even wingers. Alas our central midfield consisted of Carroll. Not going to stop PEA and Reus with a borderline championship midfielder protecting the back 4.

Like Liverpool we need CM and ST this window. We're further advanced however.

You still had Wimmer, Alderweirel, Eriksen & Lloris om the pitch in the first leg. I can see Spurs struggling quite a bit if you were to go through a similar injury crisis to what we had this season. It all depends on who you bring in next season. Get that wrong and I suspect it will be back to the typical Spurs league form.

 

[go you pups]

Sigh. Like talking to a chimp.

We have good depth in CB, full backs, GK and even wingers. Alas our central midfield consisted of Carroll. Not going to stop PEA and Reus with a borderline championship midfielder protecting the back 4.

Like Liverpool we need CM and ST this window. We're further advanced however.

Yeah

The difference between us and Liverpool is that our spine quality shits all over theirs. GK, Defence, Holding Mids, Striker.

They only compare with us in attacking midfield

 

[Zidane98]

2-1 is an absolute pasting

Like all us Spurs fans say, we deliberately didn't turn up and Poch picked very weak teams with an eye on the league both games.

I was disappointed that Poch didn't do this against Fiorentina instead and he should've went hard to win the FA Cup imo.

Dortmund are a better team than anyone in the PL currently, good luck against them in the second leg, but there's still 90 minutes to go.

Deliberately didn't turn up? You guys did your best and got thumped over 2 legs. Don't try and sugar coat it.

I expect that Dortmund go through now with the loss of Henderson.

 

[Zidane98]

And Spurs fielded 6 first choice players in the second leg against BD. Hardly a weak team.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

You still had Wimmer, Alderweirel, Eriksen & Lloris om the pitch in the first leg. I can see Spurs struggling quite a bit if you were to go through a similar injury crisis to what we had this season. It all depends on who you bring in next season. Get that wrong and I suspect it will be back to the typical Spurs league form.

And?

Eriksen is an attacking mid. Our problem was stopping theirs. Alderweireld, Wimmer and Lloris can only do so much. Alli was suspended, Dier rested and Dembele (having only just regained fitness) wasn't started. If you can't see that Dier and Dembele are pivotal to our defensive stability then I do not know what to say. Mason and Bentaleb were good enough to get us above you lot last season. I don't rate Carroll. Again CM and ST will need strengthening. The spine is quite strong still.

We were simply beaten by a better side, may still have lost with our first team, alas we tanked that tie with our selections.

 

[go you pups]

Deliberately didn't turn up? You guys did your best and got thumped over 2 legs. Don't try and sugar coat it.

Well if we were "trying our best" then our manager would've picked the best team available. What he sent out in both legs wasn't. You lot have nothing to play for except EL, we have to cement automatic CL qualification. The league will always be more important than Europe in this current day and age.

I expect that Dortmund go through now with the loss of Henderson.

Lol, I reckon Henderson the holding mid out makes you lot a better team

He's an attacking mid imo

 

[Zidane98]

Now you can see how we suffered when we had Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino & Lovren all out at the same time.

Hell Villa away was the first time FCS played together this season.

 

[go you pups]

And Spurs fielded 6 first choice players in the second leg against BD. Hardly a weak team.

But 5 were out, up against their pretty much full strength team which consisted of their poor man MSN of Reus, PEA and Mkhitaryan

 

[Zidane98]

Well if we were "trying our best" then our manager would've picked the best team available. What he sent out in both legs wasn't. You lot have nothing to play for except EL, we have to cement automatic CL qualification. The league will always be more important than Europe in this current day and age.


Lol, I reckon Henderson the holding mid out makes you lot a better team

He's an attacking mid imo

Why do you keep labelling Hendo as an attacking mid? He is a box to box mid, his job has always been cleaning up in midfield and getting the ball to our creative players. Nobody else can do that job in our squad apart from Can.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

And Spurs fielded 6 first choice players in the second leg against BD. Hardly a weak team.

I count 4. Lloris, Toby, Wimmer and Eriksen.

 

[Zidane98]

But 5 were out, up against their pretty much full strength team which consisted of their poor man MSN of Reus, PEA and Mkhitaryan

If you weren't "trying" why would the likes of Delle Alli, Dier & Lamela even play?

 

[Zidane98]

I count 4. Lloris, Toby, Wimmer and Eriksen.

That was the first leg.

 

[go you pups]

Now you can see how we suffered when we had Sturridge, Coutinho, Firmino & Lovren all out at the same time.

Hell Villa away was the first time FCS played together this season.

Oh boohoo Sturridge

Why do you have a 32m quid striker sitting on the bench?

Lovren was a spud for ages, you lot have quickly warmed to him after being a major case of discontent for a long period of time.

Just face it, your team is not good enough and you haven't mentioned any central midfielders there, a position we cream you guys in structurally. Been saying it for ages, move on from Lucas and Allen and the like and you'll go forward.

 

[Zidane98]

Another stupid argument. Allen / Lucas are fill in players only these days.

 

[Zidane98]

Oh boohoo Sturridge

Why do you have a 32m quid striker sitting on the bench?

Lovren was a spud for ages, you lot have quickly warmed to him after being a major case of discontent for a long period of time.

Just face it, your team is not good enough and you haven't mentioned any central midfielders there, a position we cream you guys in structurally. Been saying it for ages, move on from Lucas and Allen and the like and you'll go forward.

Lovren has turned it around completely. Sakho / Lovren have conceded 10 goals in 15 games, Matip coming in and Gomez returning sees us pretty strong at CB.

Skrtel ' s long term injury this season seems to have finished him off, not even considered for first team football these days.

 

[ADL9798]

Moving on. Thought this was a cool find from someone with either a very keen eye or far too much time on their hands.


Kevin Grosskreutz and Marco Reus as Liverpool mascots during the 2001 UEFA Cup Final at the Westfalenstadion.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

That was the first leg.

And lost 2-1 after the damage had been done.