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[StFly]

Are people actually buying into that shit?

What a world we live in

Venezuela held an election where 109% of the vote turned up. What a world indeed.

 

[Yawkey way]

The whole system is *ed. Harris looks like Biden with *. Both sides are not representing the people any more and whoever gets in is flying the zeppelin with the US looking like its days are numbered as a super power.

The project 2025 looks scary as **** and Trump telling people that they won't need to vote anymore sounds like a fictional dystopia though.

Watch the whole clip.

 

[gringo2011]

Venezuela held an election where 109% of the vote turned up. What a world indeed.

Venezuela has oil. The USA dispute the election because they nationalised it. Don't believe what you read. They are trying to get a coup going because their stooge failed to get up. Musk is trying to get it going too, they have lithium he wants access to.

 

[gringo2011]

Watch the whole clip.

Not sure what clip but they don't really offer much of a choice. I guess you are suggesting the one where Trump says you won't have to vote anymore once he gets in?

 

[bergholt]

Not sure what clip but they don't really offer much of a choice. I guess you are suggesting the one where Trump says you won't have to vote anymore once he gets in?

Nah it was much more self absorbed than that. He basically just said if people vote for him this time around then he doesn’t give a shit if they never vote again. Not autocratic, just narcissistic.

 

[gringo2011]

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Oh Dear.

Seems the French didn't want to risk a meatloaf moment.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Good on the Italian boxer for what she did

This shit is getting stupid

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Good on the Italian boxer for what she did

This shit is getting stupid

The Algerian boxer is not transgender and has only managed 5 stoppages in her fights before today because she isn't a particularly hard puncher.

Angela Carini was woefully underprepared for this and got embarrassed. Not as badly as she did in the 2022 world championships but still.

The idea that Algeria of all places sent a trans athlete to the games is absurd.

 

[gringo2011]

The Algerian boxer is not transgender and has only managed 5 stoppages in her fights before today because she isn't a particularly hard puncher.

Angela Carini was woefully underprepared for this and got embarrassed. Not as badly as she did in the 2022 world championships but still.

The idea that Algeria of all places sent a trans athlete to the games is absurd.

It's a much more boring story though.

 

[PoppedCorn]

Failed a gender test by IBA

So the IOC say the IBA is corupt ( prob are ) and kick them from making decisions from the Olympics

We just throwing rules out?

yet we kick a bloke out for staying under water a few seconds too long in the backsteoke


Bring on the drug induced women v men v alien Olympics
No holds barred
Least we won't get all this nonsense

 

[True Believer]

The Algerian boxer is not transgender and has only managed 5 stoppages in her fights before today because she isn't a particularly hard puncher.

Angela Carini was woefully underprepared for this and got embarrassed. Not as badly as she did in the 2022 world championships but still.

The idea that Algeria of all places sent a trans athlete to the games is absurd.

Are you referring to the Algerian woman with XY chromosomes and elevated testosterone levels?

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Are you referring to the Algerian woman with XY chromosomes and elevated testosterone levels?

I'm referring to the woman who the IBA claim failed a 'recognised' gender test but have not provided details on what test was used or proof of results and has not failed any subsequent gender testing.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

If only George was here, we could have stuck a wig on him and sent him to represent Australia .

 

[Dr Spaceman]

If only George was here, we could have stuck a wig on him and sent him to represent Australia .

“Shaved his legs, and his arms, and his chest, and his arse hairs and then he was a she”

 

[True Believer]

I'm referring to the woman who the IBA claim failed a 'recognised' gender test but have not provided details on what test was used or proof of results and has not failed any subsequent gender testing.

Right, so it's the tests that are dodgy, not the boxers......ok, whatever. There are people who can justify anything for the cause, including men boxing against women in support of their preferred political ideology.

 

[bergholt]

Trans in society is fundamentally different to trans is sport and anyone who overlaps the two is arguing in bad faith

 

[gringo2011]

Right, so it's the tests that are dodgy, not the boxers......ok, whatever. There are people who can justify anything for the cause, including men boxing against women in support of their preferred political ideology.

10 years ago they probably couldn't do anything more than look at her crotch to see that she didn't have balls.

Are you a sporting socialist? I saw Liz Cambage a couple of years ago up close. I'm 6'2" and she could have taken my eye out with a nipple. She is physically more muscular and skilled. She's definitely a woman but has serious advantages over me so she must have a ridiculous leg up against other females.

Does she have to sit out of sport because she is bigger and better? If the boxer has been born with a vag she should be allowed to fight IMO. Sport can never be fair among every participant. Unless they can prove that she is not a woman it gets tricky from a legal stand point. There must be a guideline that says how much testosterone or what ever the measure is that they can have.

 

[gringo2011]

Trans in society is fundamentally different to trans is sport and anyone who overlaps the two is arguing in bad faith

Both have become culture wars schisms. Plenty of idiots on both sides make it a very stupid and childish debate and do more damage for both sides than good.

 

[DougalHoward]

Is she intersex?

 

[Desperate saint]

Venezuela has oil. The USA dispute the election because they nationalised it. Don't believe what you read. They are trying to get a coup going because their stooge failed to get up. Musk is trying to get it going too, they have lithium he wants access to.

USA has plenty of Oil

Venezuela has oil. The USA dispute the election because they nationalised it. Don't believe what you read. They are trying to get a coup going because their stooge failed to get up. Musk is trying to get it going too, they have lithium he wants access to.

US has plenty of oil and Lithium is relatively common -Musk gets a lot of his from Australia actually

 

[SaintsSeptember]

It gets kind of bullshit.

OK, they get together and decide that anyone female over level X has an unnatural amount of testosterone and has to be excluded. Lets call that level 100%.
So a female athlete with testosterone level 30% doses herself up to 99.99%.

Rinse and repeat with any other doping that is contingent on threshold values.

Essentially the levels of all this stuff occurs naturally at different levels in different people.
So you might have someone with 80% testosterone, 60% growth hormone, 40% something else.
Suddenly they are sitting on 99%, 99% 99% and are not cheating.

 

[gringo2011]

USA has plenty of Oil

US has plenty of oil and Lithium is relatively common -Musk gets a lot of his from Australia actually

Read about it. Venezuela has the biggest oil deposits in the world. Trump was complaining that his sanctions had nearly broken them and that the US would have stolen all their oil. The US still controls a lot of the oil trade and if you are an oil producing nation good luck running your own affairs. Musk must be getting something out of it. Musk is running a huge anti Maduro campaign. Must be getting something out of it. Probably free if the US puts a puppet government in place.

 

[gringo2011]

Is she intersex?

Apparently not. Trans and intersex are still banned. They said she tested positive on some unspecified gender test which you imagine is heightened testosterone or something.

 

[Geary Is GOAT]

Right, so it's the tests that are dodgy, not the boxers......ok, whatever. There are people who can justify anything for the cause, including men boxing against women in support of their preferred political ideology.

People can justify anything, like looking at a woman born with female gentiles, declared female at birth, being legally female and declaring her a man in support of their preferred political ideology.