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The ban the burqa argument is pure racism.

Here is a list of violent incidents perpetrated by someone "disguised" in a bursa in the western world:

It's bullshit persecution of peaceful people going about their lives because of the fear of something happening on the other side of the world.
 

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..... You should be able to wear any religious headcovering anywhere that it's not illegal to wear any non-religious headcovering.
Exactly, just as religious face covering should be banned in places non-religious face coverings are banned.
 

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Exactly, just as religious face covering should be banned in places non-religious face coverings are banned.
Exactly, dead simple.

Time to accept that a Muslim's beliefs are of no more importance than a motorcyclist's convenience. Multiculturalism starts to work when that starts to be realised and practiced.
 

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Hi, resident pedantic smartarse here,

You're right that 'Islam is not a race!' doesn't make religionism (by which you obviously mean anti-religionism) OK. The fact that religionism (by which you obviously mean anti-religionism) is already OK is what makes it OK.
Non-religion shouldn't be pushed on religious people any more than religion should be forced on non-religious people. I fully support gay marriage, voluntary euthanasia and a number of other things which are only illegal in Australia because of religious lobbyists, but I also fully support people being able to wear a burqa or a crucifix necklace or a yarmulke or whatever the hell they want in public. Two wrongs don't make a right.
 

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Exactly, dead simple.

Time to accept that a Muslim's beliefs are of no more importance than a motorcyclist's convenience. Multiculturalism starts to work when that starts to be realised and practiced.
Multiculturalism starts to work when people understand that the people define the religion, the religion doesn't define the people.

A Muslim woman wearing a head covering is not, has not and will never be a threat to anyone's safety any more than any white woman.
 

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Non-religion shouldn't be pushed on religious people any more than religion should be forced on non-religious people.
Non-religion is already pushed on people by law. It's called education.

That aside, I agree, but don't see the relevance.

I fully support gay marriage, voluntary euthanasia and a number of other things which are only illegal in Australia because of religious lobbyists, but I also fully support people being able to wear a burqa or a crucifix necklace or a yarmulke or whatever the hell they want in public. Two wrongs don't make a right.
Agree with that too. Except in the case of head coverings in places where head coverings are banned.
 

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Multiculturalism starts to work when people understand that the people define the religion, the religion doesn't define the people.

A Muslim woman wearing a head covering is not, has not and will never be a threat to anyone's safety any more than any white woman.
Except thats not true if its a face covering, because anonymity is available to the former and not the latter.
 

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Except thats not true if its a face covering, because anonymity is available to the former and not the latter.
Somebody come and get me when there is a robbery or similar actually committed by a Muslim woman wearing a face covering in Australia.

Until then the xenophobic scaremongering is a national embarrassment.

Nobody wants to ban the burqa because they are in any genuine fear of security issues. It's simple racism.
 
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Somebody come and get me when there is a robbery or similar actually committed by a Muslim woman wearing a face covering in Australia.

Until then the xenophobic scaremongering is a national embarrassment.

Nobody wants to ban the burqa because they are in any genuine fear of security issues. It's simple racism.
Racism, perhaps, but not definitely. It's paranoia more than anything.
 

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Somebody come and get me when there is a robbery or similar actually committed by a Muslim woman wearing a face covering in Australia.
All you actually need is an example of a crime where someone has concealed their face to avoid being caught. There's heaps of those.

Unless you think Muslim women are of a higher moral standard than everyone else?
 
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