Mega Thread The Random Thoughts Thread Part 1

[Zakk Wylde]

How good is it when Poison Pete arrives at the T**ty bar?

You can't not purchase an array of meats from him.

 

[Peck]

Just saw the new Star Wars. Very happy!!

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Only criticism is it was basically the same plot as a new hope but so awesome omg.

 

[raman]

Just saw the new Star Wars. Very happy!!

Spoiler

Only criticism is it was basically the same plot as a new hope but so awesome omg.

Barely even a criticism, IMO. Very smart move.

 

[hazard]

Look usually I'd live and let live on a subjective opinion, but this surely must be the most unpopular opinion on this board since Big Matty T suggested Matt Thomas was more deserving of a guernsey than Travis Boak.

I said it last night at a party. Was a bit of a record scratch moment.

 

[edgie]

The Prequels being your favourites in the series is odd, but they aren't all bad, and I still quite enjoy them. The prequels being your favourites and in the same breath criticising the characterisation of the protagonists in Force Awakens is ridiculous.

Anakin and Padme were just embarassingly bad characters with very little redeeming features. Boring, cardboard, lifeless husks who were written and acted at the level of a year 9 school play.

Rey and Finn, by comparison, actually have personalities beyond Anakin's angsty teen and Padme's still life drawing of a cabbage. They were fleshed out people with layered motivations and personality traits.

I actually disagree and find them both, as characters, boring a. Where did they come from? What drives them? What are their morales?

At least with Anakin and Padme you knew. Rey has been written mysterious and it comes off as try hard "oh, it's classified? Yes, me too" etc, and her 15 minute mastery of the Force spits in the face of what the Force is way more than any midichorian debate and it some contrived plot device, and Fin is completely bipolar, fleas the First Order are freaking out in battle but then has the resolve of my steel Rambo IV knife when in battle for the Resistance, there's no other reason given for his deserting other than that, it certainly doesn't touch on his ethics or political stance.

Of course, I expect these things will be fleshed out in the future movies, and despite what I mentioned above, they certainly act and behave more charismatic and realistic ways than the prequel characters despite being equally as one dimensional.

Strangely we aren't given anything regarding Poe either, but I like that. He's already where he is, he isn't on a journey like the others, so I'm cool to just see him do his thing.

 

[edgie]

Learning more about the late-stage Eric Stoltz sacking from BTTF when it became clear he wasn't right for the part, it's staggering no-one watching those early Jake Lloyd takes realised he wasn't Random-Kid-On-Sitcom material, let alone rebooting the greatest franchise in the history of cinema material.

Look at all the child actors in the prequels, it's clear the casting agent should be banned from working on movies with any characters under 18.

 

[edgie]

Anakin wasn't one dimensional, it just wasn't written as obvious as it should have been.

On the surface his only motivations are his family, ie, mum and Padme.

Deeper than that, he is motivated by a lust for power, to destroy unethical practices, and sees the galaxy as broken beyond repair, which all stem from his childhood growing up as a slave. He spent a long time hearing how powerful he is, but feels the Jedi are trying to limit his progression as a Force user and that they are afraid of him and what he wants to do, which of course he thinks is the right thing to do with his power. He also feels Kenobi only trains him out of obligation to his former master, and they too often clash on important issues. Palpatine takes advantage of these factors, and uses Anakins insecurities, inexperience, and anger to manipulate his point of view to his own.

Thematically, it is actually hard to fault, it was just executed so ****ing poorly.

Of course, just my 2 cents.

 

[El_Scorcho]

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I actually disagree and find them both, as characters, boring a. Where did they come from? What drives them? What are their morales?

At least with Anakin and Padme you knew. Rey has been written mysterious and it comes off as try hard "oh, it's classified? Yes, me too" etc, and her 15 minute mastery of the Force spits in the face of what the Force is way more than any midichorian debate and it some contrived plot device, and Fin is completely bipolar, fleas the First Order are freaking out in battle but then has the resolve of my steel Rambo IV knife when in battle for the Resistance, there's no other reason given for his deserting other than that, it certainly doesn't touch on his ethics or political stance.

Of course, I expect these things will be fleshed out in the future movies, and despite what I mentioned above, they certainly act and behave more charismatic and realistic ways than the prequel characters despite being equally as one dimensional.

Strangely we aren't given anything regarding Poe either, but I like that. He's already where he is, he isn't on a journey like the others, so I'm cool to just see him do his thing.

I disagree. Finn's motivation was obvious. He went out for his first ever battle as a Storm Trooper, and watched as his squadmates carried out orders to murder innocent women and children in cold blood and shat himself and decided the whole thing wasn't for him. It's not battle that got him, it was the murder of the innocents after the battle was won. Other than that, he's a trained soldier so you'd expect him to be able to fight like one.

Rey picked the force up basically the same way Luke did, but instead of instruction from Obi Wan like Luke, she was hardened from having to survive on her own for so long, and after speaking to Maz, starts to realise that her abilities have probably been force related all along and she gains a bit of confidence.

Anakin wasn't one dimensional, it just wasn't written as obvious as it should have been.

On the surface his only motivations are his family, ie, mum and Padme.

Deeper than that, he is motivated by a lust for power, to destroy unethical practices, and sees the galaxy as broken beyond repair, which all stem from his childhood growing up as a slave. He spent a long time hearing how powerful he is, but feels the Jedi are trying to limit his progression as a Force user and that they are afraid of him and what he wants to do, which of course he thinks is the right thing to do with his power. He also feels Kenobi only trains him out of obligation to his former master, and they too often clash on important issues. Palpatine takes advantage of these factors, and uses Anakins insecurities, inexperience, and anger to manipulate his point of view to his own.

Thematically, it is actually hard to fault, it was just executed so ******* poorly.

Of course, just my 2 cents.

I reckon a big part of Anakin/Vader was that he was a Republican patriot, as opposed to a Sith cultist like Palpatine or Maul, and he was influenced by Palpatine into believing the Jedi exerted too much influence over the Republic in a very undemocratic way, which mirrored the treatment they'd given him.

That patriotism basically stemmed from Padme and her plight I guess.

There was so much potential with that character. Vader is the greatest film villain of all time. The groundwork was there. Then they made him a sooky, angsty teen who i'm assuming was directed to deliver his lines like a sooky angsty teen, because no self respecting actor would have chosen to play it the way he did.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I guess Anakin isn't one dimensional if you consider his entire 6 film arc. In Attack of the Clones he was almost unwatchable though. The writing was heinous. Natalie Portman is actually a pretty good actor, but they gave her absolutely nothing. That character is a total void.

 

[edgie]

Watch Return of the Jedi and you see that it is clearly the character as the prequels, he actually acts very weak in that and it is very believable that he is the guy from 1 - 3.

 

[edgie]

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I disagree. Finn's motivation was obvious. He went out for his first ever battle as a Storm Trooper, and watched as his squadmates carried out orders to murder innocent women and children in cold blood and shat himself and decided the whole thing wasn't for him. It's not battle that got him, it was the murder of the innocents after the battle was won. Other than that, he's a trained soldier so you'd expect him to be able to fight like one.

Rey picked the force up basically the same way Luke did, but instead of instruction from Obi Wan like Luke, she was hardened from having to survive on her own for so long, and after speaking to Maz, starts to realise that her abilities have probably been force related all along and she gains a bit of confidence.

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Fin freaked out as soon as the wounded trooper smeared blood on his helmet IMO (also, since when the blasters result in heavy bleeding? Another thing against Star Wars lore).

As for Rey, she picks it up in 15 minutes with no guidance (same vague phrases from forgettable wise bartender 101 character doesn't count). Luke has some instruction from Obi-Wan on the Falcon, then has all the time between A New Hope and Empire to self train his skill.

 

[Dylan8]

Spoiler tags idiot El_Scorcho

 

[edgie]

Spoiler tags idiot

My bad. Fixed.

 

[Dylan8]

2 swords or 1 in KOTOR?

 

[Dylan8]

My bad. Fixed.

It's all Al_Scorcho's fault

 

[Grave Danger]

I watched an "Anti-Cheese" edit of AotC on youtube the other night.

Anti-Cheese is what they should call this product:

(I wonder what they make the "Cheddar Vegan Flavours" from...)

 

[edgie]

2 swords or 1 in KOTOR?

Neither

 

[Dylan8]

Neither

Armor: Optional

I'm only just at the start. I think I'll go the traditional route of 1 saber/sword.

 

[edgie]

Armor: Optional

I'm only just at the start. I think I'll go the traditional route of 1 saber/sword.

I started my playthrough with a blaster.

What class?

 

[edgie]

It's actually not too hot so I really should make hay while the sun shines, or rather, play the computer while the sun is hidden and it isn't a million degrees, but double XP weekend on Battlefront. I want that Scout Trooper armour.

 

[Dylan8]

I started my playthrough with a blaster.

What class?

Fighter. I think I'll go down the Sith route. Duelist type.

I'd like to do a rogue style character but I dunno I guess it doesn't really suit Revan imo.

 

[Powerade 08]

So if we're allowed to discuss movies that aren't complete trash for a second - The Revenant is MOTY, definitely lives up to the hype. Now I'm wishing I waited to see it at the cinemas.

 

[edgie]

Fighter. I think I'll go down the Sith route. Duelist type.

I'd like to do a rogue style character but I dunno I guess it doesn't really suit Revan imo.

I don't know what suits him/her as this is my first.

 

[JimmyBeerCans]

Just saw the new Star Wars. Astonishingly good, astonishingly retro. As I stepped out into the light afterwards I had to check I wasn't wearing flares, that my Dad's HQ wasn't waiting in the carpark.

When I stepped out into the bright sunlight, from the darkness of the movie house, I had only two things on my mind: Paul Newman and a ride home...
- S.E. Hinton

 

[edgie]

Dylan8 The theme for the bigfooty song contest this round is synthpop, you should have a go!