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David Disgrace QC better come up with something better than the Gov excuse this time.
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The Report/MRP Thread
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Pies need us to take out the Cats to soften the blow of their own loss to us. Hope a few calls are being made to get them on side
FreeTK
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This is where the table of offences is deeply flawed.
They made a big mistake getting rid of reckless.
We all know the MRO is flawed in its interpretation and application.
We also know the AFL is looking to get rid of any kind of contact with the head.
It may also be true that we are under the microscope since the Gaff incident.
What the Eagles need to do is not give the MRO anything that can be used to suspend players.
Rather than shoving someone in the chest or shoulder, do it in the tummy or sternum. It's the same thing as your arms sliding up in a tackle, it won't slide up if you grab them around the hips.
Why the club hasn't discussed this with the players internally is astounding to me.
They will argue careless, insufficient force and also exceptional circumstances.
90% chance they fail at all 3
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I’m open to any conspiracy theories after this garbage.
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clear elbow by yeo there, intentional. High impact.
So 1 week up to 3 weeks then. We do have 3 vicco opponents in a row.
Dark Sharks
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INB4 Dave Grace QC starts using Yeo's character as a defense rather than actually focus on the minor hit itself.
Worsfold via web link - "Yeah i know Yeo, he's a good bloke"
Worsfold via web link - "Yeah i know Yeo, he's a good bloke"
See if Hodge is available for the good bloke character ref? It is against the Cats he might do us a solid.
Yeo’s charge is ‘vexatious‘, i.e. when you are looking to find fault under every rock and in every dark corner. Hawkins, on the other hand is a clear, deliberate, thug act of an elbow to the head by a 110 kg monster to a poor, little 85 kg Ryan in the centre of play.
True. Hawkins may not have done the height/weight differential prior to elbowing. Could be in for some real grief from Christian.
Methinks Grace’s arguments were hamstrung by Gov’s stupidity on that occasion.
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Grace is too smart and nuanced for many of the knuckleheads that sit on the Tribunal’s “jury”. This is a fair criticism of him.
Gov, on the other hand, is too dumb for many of those same knuckleheads.
This is a bad combination.
I fear Yeo will offer a similar experience.
So if the "intentional" contact was initially to the chest, then it slipped up, how can the high contact be deemed "intentional"? Has to be careless high contact or intentional body contact. One or the other...
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The strike was intentional and the strike made high contact, they don't combine them.
The intentional/careless grading is only for the contact, not for where the contact is.
So it’s intentional contact regardless of where he hit him then the high contact charge is seperate
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Who sits on the Tribunal? Ex-players, is it not? Forget all this intentional, high contact, grading claptrap and just appeal to their sense of fairness. Use the "modern footy is too soft if this is a suspension" defence.
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Insufficient force is the only way through here.
Looking forward to some bizarre tangential argument from DGQC.
Looking forward to some bizarre tangential argument from DGQC.
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3 citations this year alone for high contact low impact.
If it has been addressed, the players either a) don't understand or b) aren't listening.
"shit happens" isn't an excuse. See: Gaff.
They're not even remotely similar.
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should he get a week? no.
will he get a week? yes.
the fact that dan the man (and co) have either been tipped off to this by collingwood, or have trawled through every minute of the game to find something, doesn’t exactly fill me with hope. they determined a week based off the footage which is what they will use as their case regardless of the defense, don’t think any amount of reasoning would change the suspension without going against precedent.
will he get a week? yes.
the fact that dan the man (and co) have either been tipped off to this by collingwood, or have trawled through every minute of the game to find something, doesn’t exactly fill me with hope. they determined a week based off the footage which is what they will use as their case regardless of the defense, don’t think any amount of reasoning would change the suspension without going against precedent.
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With regards to Hawkins, someone mentioned in another thread about him getting suspended 6 times in 4 seasons.
one was for touching an umpire....meh.
3 others that I saw, got one week , his hit on schofield last year, a hit on Phil Davis and Matt Crouch.
the yeo one is even close to any of these, the vision is also so much clearer on the Hawkins suspensions.
one was for touching an umpire....meh.
3 others that I saw, got one week , his hit on schofield last year, a hit on Phil Davis and Matt Crouch.
the yeo one is even close to any of these, the vision is also so much clearer on the Hawkins suspensions.
