The Report/MRP Thread

[FreeTK]

should he get a week? no.

will he get a week? yes.

the fact that dan the man (and co) have either been tipped off to this by collingwood, or have trawled through every minute of the game to find something, doesn’t exactly fill me with hope. they determined a week based off the footage which is what they will use, don’t think any amount of reasoning would change the suspension without going against precedent.

The club should fine Yeo 5K for having to go to the effort of going to the tribunal because of his carelesness.

No punching people in the shoulder

No punching people in the chest

It's too easy to end up missing and getting whacked with a suspension. Ultimately Yeo is luck that the impact was low and it's only 1 week.

 

[Tugga27]

3 citations this year alone for high contact low impact.

If it has been addressed, the players either a) don't understand or b) aren't listening.

"sh*t happens" isn't an excuse. See: Gaff.




They're not even remotely similar.

Firstly, you said it hasn't been addressed by the club.
You still don't know that and are just guessing it hasn't been.

I never used "heat of battle" as an excuse either.
People get emotional out on the field and things happen.

 

[Balls In]

Its remarkable that anyone can watch that footage and decide to actually suspend someone for it. An ex player as well. We can go around in circles arguing all the terminology now but at heart this whole debacle stems from Christian having no common sense in his thick ****ing skull.

 

[Tugga27]

The club should fine Yeo 5K for having to go to the effort of going to the tribunal because of his carelesness.

No punching people in the shoulder

No punching people in the chest

It's too easy to end up missing and getting whacked with a suspension. Ultimately Yeo is luck that the impact was low and it's only 1 week.

Good luck with getting a fine like that approved by the PA.
Going to the tribunal is not compulsory either.

 

[Milkshaker]

Yeo suspension a joke.

 

[FreeTK]

Good luck with getting a fine like that approved by the PA.
Going to the tribunal is not compulsory either.

And now the club will need to pay the 10K to try to overturn it.

Not to mention having to pay 2K in match payments for whoever replaces Yeo while paying 1/17th of his salary to run around the backyard against Geelongs 2's.

I am struggling to think of any other player who has been suspended for striking this year.

We have had 3.

 

[shooshka]

The club should fine Yeo 5K for having to go to the effort of going to the tribunal because of his carelesness.

No punching people in the shoulder

No punching people in the chest

It's too easy to end up missing and getting whacked with a suspension. Ultimately Yeo is luck that the impact was low and it's only 1 week.

It was made pretty clear by the MRO and tribunal that a punch is a closed fist. Therefore this is not a punch - as it is open handed (it is graded as a strike anyway, which might be splitting hairs but welcome to the MRO and tribunal system). Punches are intentional, but maybe strikes with an open hand can be careless? (not sure that would fly tbh)

I think the argument has to be twofold - incidental high contact (below the force required) and low force body contact. i.e. he hit him to the body, sure it had such a small impact above the shoulders but not of a significant enough force to warrant it being cited.

Then play a loop of players (mostly walters, maybe papley too as Clarko mentioned it and 'everyone' loves Clarko) throwing their heads back for contact that isn't even high when trying to draw free kicks. Should have 30+ minutes of vision from the most recent round.

 

[FreeTK]

It was made pretty clear by the MRO and tribunal that a punch is a closed fist. Therefore this is not a punch - as it is open handed (it is graded as a strike anyway, which might be splitting hairs but welcome to the MRO and tribunal system). Punches are intentional, but maybe strikes with an open hand can be careless? (not sure that would fly tbh)

I think the argument has to be twofold - incidental high contact (below the force required) and low force body contact. i.e. he hit him to the body, sure it had such a small impact above the shoulders but not of a significant enough force to warrant it being cited.

Then play a loop of players (mostly walters, maybe papley too as Clarko mentioned it and 'everyone' loves Clarko) throwing their heads back for contact that isn't even high when trying to draw free kicks. Should have 30+ minutes of vision from the most recent round.

The argument needs to be the club telling players not to shove, punch or hit people in the chest or shoulder where there is a high likelihood it could slide up and result in suspension.

The fact it has happened 3 times this year should be a concern.

 

[Tugga27]

And now the club will need to pay the 10K to try to overturn it.

Not to mention having to pay 2K in match payments for whoever replaces Yeo while paying 1/17th of his salary to run around the backyard against Geelongs 2's.

I am struggling to think of any other player who has been suspended for striking this year.

We have had 3.

That would be a great way to get the players offside by trying to fine them for a suspension.
Depending on their contract, the player probably loses his match payment anyway.
It's not ideal I agree, but things happen.
FWIW, I agreed with both Schofields and Gov's suspensions but think the Yeo one is more doubtful.

There might not have been any other players suspended this year for striking but there has been
a lot for bumping to the head which can be just as bad or worse IMO.

 

[Bacchus]

The argument needs to be the club telling players not to shove, punch or hit people in the chest or shoulder where there is a high likelihood it could slide up and result in suspension.

The fact it has happened 3 times this year should be a concern.

You are right, give no possible cause for complaint, but this charge is persecution, the prudent thing by the MRO would have been to let it slide. And if Hawkins is not cited and suspended by the same standard then it is sheer ‘discrimination’.

 

[Dazzler9]

The argument needs to be the club telling players not to shove, punch or hit people in the chest or shoulder where there is a high likelihood it could slide up and result in suspension.

The fact it has happened 3 times this year should be a concern.

Come on man, push and shove is perfectly acceptable. What's a player gonna do when their opponent is shoving them all day long? Just accept it? No.

Gov's suspension was a clear attempt to punch someone on the noggan. Yeo was just engaging in push and shove and his seemingly open palm slid up. Big deal.

 

[FreeTK]

That would be a great way to get the players offside by trying to fine them for a suspension.
Depending on their contract, the player probably loses his match payment anyway.
It's not ideal I agree, but things happen.
FWIW, I agreed with both Schofields and Gov's suspensions but think the Yeo one is more doubtful.

There might not have been any other players suspended this year for striking but there has been
a lot for bumping to the head which can be just as bad or worse IMO.

You are right, give no possible cause for complaint, but this charge is persecution, the prudent thing by the MRO would have been to let it slide. And if Hawkins is not cited and suspended then it is sheer ‘discrimination’.

I reckon if it wasn't for Gaffy's hit on Brayshaw we wouldn't be under such scrutiny by AFL MRO.

The most frustrating thing about it is we give so many opportunities to get scrubbed out.

Regardless of the outcome of tonight's tribunal hearing I think Simmo and the coaches need to get the players to make changes to how they make contact with oppo players.

 

[FreeTK]

Come on man, push and shove is perfectly acceptable. What's a player gonna do when their opponent is shoving them all day long? Just accept it? No.

Gov's suspension was a clear attempt to punch someone on the noggan. Yeo was just engaging in push and shove and his seemingly open palm slid up. Big deal.

I have no problem with it, except don't push and shove in a way where it can slide high and get you rubbed out.

Players get taught to tackle around the waist and hips instead of the chest and shoulders to prevent giving away free kicks.

It's exactly the same.

 

[shooshka]

I have no problem with it, except don't push and shove in a way where it can slide high and get you rubbed out.

And yet you'll be the first one bemoaning a loss because we couldn't win a single clearance (except when NN takes it out of the ruck).

No-one is going to spend the time doing it, but I would hazard a guess that most inside mids have more open handed shoves to the chest/shoulder of an opponent per game than they do possessions. Like it or not it is part of their 'craft'.

Hopefully we can get Wills as a witness and he can report that he doesn't even remember it hitting him high - his reaction was due to the force of it hitting his chest. Then MC can counter it with it being the easiest suspension he ever handed out, and we can all get angry again.

 

[FreeTK]

And yet you'll be the first one bemoaning a loss because we couldn't win a single clearance (except when NN takes it out of the ruck).

No-one is going to spend the time doing it, but I would hazard a guess that most inside mids have more open handed shoves to the chest/shoulder of an opponent per game than they do possessions. Like it or not it is part of their 'craft'.

Hopefully we can get Wills as a witness and he can report that he doesn't even remember it hitting him high - his reaction was due to the force of it hitting his chest. Then MC can counter it with it being the easiest suspension he ever handed out, and we can all get angry again.

This post makes zero sense.

What does not hitting someone high have to do with winning a clearance?

Part of the craft needs to be not being cited by the MRO and getting suspended for it.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

1st frame. You can see Yeo's hand unturned in front of Wills arm, extending under and past the G in eagles.
2nd frame. That shaped palm retains its shape. With the upturned palm into the chest.
3rd frame. Arm goes high while redrawing but no clear frame of hand on neck or face.
4th Frame. Wills head is still turned down to Yeo's arm. His head doesn't deflect away from that direction at any point during the incident

You can make out Wills beard clearly and knowing the angle of the camera is looking down on the play. Which puts Yeos hand at chest height when visible contact is made.

Should argue both negligible impact and no high contact.

 

[RookiePick]

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2nd frame. Upturned palm into the chest.
3rd frame. Arm goes high while redrawing but no clear frame of hand on neck or face.
4th Frame. Wills head is still turned down to Yeo's arm. His head doesn't deflect away from that direction at any point during the incident

Should argue both negligible impact and no high contact.

Submit to club. Get Yeo off. Etch name in folklore.

 

[Tugga27]

And yet you'll be the first one bemoaning a loss because we couldn't win a single clearance (except when NN takes it out of the ruck).

No-one is going to spend the time doing it, but I would hazard a guess that most inside mids have more open handed shoves to the chest/shoulder of an opponent per game than they do possessions. Like it or not it is part of their 'craft'.

Hopefully we can get Wills as a witness and he can report that he doesn't even remember it hitting him high - his reaction was due to the force of it hitting his chest. Then MC can counter it with it being the easiest suspension he ever handed out, and we can all get angry again.

I'm pretty sure the days of calling opposition players to provide evidence are over.

FWIW, I don't think we're being targeted by MRO.
I don't buy into all of this Christian/Hocking conspiracy crap either.

I do think MC is incompetent but not a cheat.

 

[The Dodger]

Looking at the footage and the stills it just beggars belief that they found an action that was deemed definitely suspension worthy to begin with. He had to be alerted to that incident by somebody as I doubt they watch all footage from all alternative angles looking for a suspension.
I don't think there is a pro Vic/Maggies from Christian but I think this guy has an anti Eagle agenda. So many of our suspensions are questionable and even get neutrals asking questions. NN, Gov chair, Jetta tackle and now this. Meanwhile he re-writes rules that let others off (Burgoyne sling) and pretend insufficient force is a thing for elbows to the head (Ablett v North elbow).
Perhaps its just incompetence but I find this incident interesting in that it is picking fly shit out of pepper to find this incident to begin with and then taking a huge leap to determine there was definitely contact made to the head and that it was of a force not to be deemed insufficient. Seems to be looking for an opportunity.

 

[Ochre]

Submit to club. Get Yeo off. Etch name in folklore.

Who was it on this board that helped get the Q stick off once?

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

View attachment 921260

2nd frame. Upturned palm into the chest.
3rd frame. Arm goes high while redrawing but no clear frame of hand on neck or face.
4th Frame. Wills head is still turned down to Yeo's arm. His head doesn't deflect away from that direction at any point during the incident

Should argue both negligible impact and no high contact.

'Ol Moneybags QC: Evidence? WTF is this? *deletes* Your honour, Yeo's a good bloke. Defence rests.

 

[Suma Magic]

 

[Hap Hapablap]

how the **** is that even a suspension? ****en christian and his bias (ex colliwobble campaigner)

games gone ****en soft

 

[FKASC]

Maybe the more the club spends on appealing and losing tribunal cases, the less tax it has to give to the minnow clubs. Smart business imo.

 

[southcoast]

First line of defence, “Errr, I’m now called Shaun Burgoyne”


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