Analysis The Sack List: who stays, who goes in an AFC cleanout?

[Thetrader15]

Sumich is a dual premiership team mate of Dons, you would think that there would be a pretty good relationship there.
Hopefully we can land him in that type of position.

Job for the boys?

 

[phill5158]

Job for the boys?

Only applies to former players, Sumich has had nothing to do with us.

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[Hammond]

I’ve no idea which assistants are good or bad. How does everyone else tell?

 

[Mismatched]

Tom Rehn said on his sports report on tv that he’s hearing whispers of Sumich at AFC next year.
Sumich & Rutten??? Could we???

Don’t tell me we’re going to actually fork out a bit of cash to get some decent people into our key senior positions....

I wonder if Pykes read the club the riot act to the club to sort out it’s off field appointments after the debacle of this year. Reports of us going after Hawthorns head of fitness and now Sumich, must be pretty frustrating as senior coach, when you’re ultimately responsible for performance, but you’ve had an entire season ruined by the incompetence of your high performance dept.

 

[Barneythecrab]

Don’t tell me we’re going to actually fork out a bit of cash to get some decent people into our key senior positions....

I wonder if Pykes read the club the riot act to the club to sort out it’s off field appointments after the debacle of this year. Reports of us going after Hawthorns head of fitness and now Sumich, must be pretty frustrating as senior coach, when you’re ultimately responsible for performance, but you’ve had an entire season ruined by the incompetence of your high performance dept.

Looks like only Hart and O’Keefe out of our coaching list.

Campo and Clarke to stay.

 

[BRL121]

Nether Sumich nor Ratten are likely to accept any assistant coach position. Then, we would need to create artificial higher positions for them, leading to problems in the AFC pecking order and noses being put out of joint. Not necessarily a bad thing, but AFC are not noted for this sort of behaviour.

 

[Barneythecrab]

Hoping someone is silly enough in Vic to take Hart off us. Now to move on the high marking Brett Burton for the equally high marking Warwick Capper.
Warwick's influence will start with getting Eddie some drastically smaller shorts. Capper himself proclaimed that his shorts were more tightly packed than the hill on showdown. Gotta be good for crowd figures.
Hey Google, sack bird brain.

Hasn’t been given another contract

 

[Bay62]

Hasn’t been given another contract

Who’s that, Hart?

 

[Tex Danger]

Who’s that, Hart?

the quotes/article I read suggested we want him to stay but he has yet to sign. Sounded like Pyke still wanted him but that could be just trying to push any distractions aside and stop the media putting their slant on things

 

[Mismatched]

Nether Sumich nor Ratten are likely to accept any assistant coach position. Then, we would need to create artificial higher positions for them, leading to problems in the AFC pecking order and noses being put out of joint. Not necessarily a bad thing, but AFC are not noted for this sort of behaviour.

Depends how the role is structured and how much they are paid. I could see Pyke taking on increased role in managing what goes on through the entire football deptartment and essentially installing a “senior assistant” who is above the line coaches and takes on increased day to day senior coach type duties to assist Pyke.

Might put Campo’s nose out of joint, but it’s time he moved on anyway...

Having a senior assistant who’s not tethered to a specific “line” means that we don’t need to worry so much about having more junior line coaches, as the senior assistant can have a role assisting over all lines, as well as he senior coach.

Essentially:
Senior Coach: Pyke
Senior Assistant: Sumich
Forwards: ?
Midfield: Francou
Defence: ?
Ruck: Clarke (we know he’s not going anywhere...)

Whether we then look at bringing Ratten in as head of football, to assist Pyke overseeing the other departments. Might need to promote Burton to assistant COO though...

Yes, probably dreaming a bit that we’d be able to bring in 2 relatively high profile persons like Ratten and Sumich.

 

[Tex Danger]

Looks like only Hart and O’Keefe out of our coaching list.

Campo and Clarke to stay.

Clarke obviously wouldn't be listed on the not recontracted coaches list as he has a contract with us for the womens team so he is not a "free agent" based on that contract alone. So this doesnt change the likelihood of his role with the men being changed. I still think he ends up being a ruck coach but not a full assistant with strategic input as theres no way he can coach the women and be as involved in our preseason and planning as he would need to be.

Campo not being revealed in this group would suggest he has a contract beyond this year though. Unless he doesnt want to pursue other roles and in that case maybe his name wouldn't be revealed. Not exactly sure how this works with the assistant coaches contract status being revealed works

 

[hey shorty]

ROK was an outsider, easy to sack him.

Maybe we will promote Modra to coach the SANFL.

 

[Doctor B]

Depends how the role is structured and how much they are paid. I could see Pyke taking on increased role in managing what goes on through the entire football deptartment and essentially installing a “senior assistant” who is above the line coaches and takes on increased day to day senior coach type duties to assist Pyke.

Might put Campo’s nose out of joint, but it’s time he moved on anyway...

Having a senior assistant who’s not tethered to a specific “line” means that we don’t need to worry so much about having more junior line coaches, as the senior assistant can have a role assisting over all lines, as well as he senior coach.

Essentially:
Senior Coach: Pyke
Senior Assistant: Sumich
Forwards: ?
Midfield: Francou
Defence: ?
Ruck: Clarke (we know he’s not going anywhere...)

Whether we then look at bringing Ratten in as head of football, to assist Pyke overseeing the other departments. Might need to promote Burton to assistant COO though...

Yes, probably dreaming a bit that we’d be able to bring in 2 relatively high profile persons like Ratten and Sumich.

Senior Coach: Pyke
Head of Football Operations: Ratten
Senior Assistant: Sumich
Forward: Tredrea
Midfield: Francou
Defence: Truck or Mattner
SANFL: Campo

I'll get flamed for Tredders at the Crows but I like his no BS straight down the line approach.

 

[ad victoriam]

Senior Coach: Pyke
Head of Football Operations: Ratten
Senior Assistant: Sumich
Forward: Tredrea
Midfield: Francou
Defence: Truck or Mattner
SANFL: Campo

I'll get flamed for Tredders at the Crows but I like his no BS straight down the line approach.

Like some of it,
But the senior Assistant would be a Line Coach, Soft Cap.
However, I do like the Idea of bringing Mattner on board.

 

[Truck25]

Are any clubs trying to poach Burton, Camporeale, Clarke or Hass?

I heard the Wingfield Royals were looking at Burton and Hass, but after due diligence they turned them down. They were worried it would tarnish their reputation.

 

[VictorianCrow85]

Senior Coach: Pyke
Head of Football Operations: Ratten
Senior Assistant: Sumich
Forward: Tredrea
Midfield: Francou
Defence: Truck or Mattner
SANFL: Campo

I'll get flamed for Tredders at the Crows but I like his no BS straight down the line approach.

I don't mind Tredders either, I'd give him a go if he were interested.

 

[Doctor B]

Like some of it,
But the senior Assistant would be a Line Coach, Soft Cap.
However, I do like the Idea of bringing Mattner on board.

Senior Assistant isn't a line coach at Hawthorn this year. If Hawthorn can why cant we?

Hawks 2018
Senior Coach: Clarkson
Head fo Footy Ops: Graham Wright
Senior Assistant: Damien Carroll
4 Assistants: Burns Ratten Glass Yze Monkhorst

 

[johnnypanther]

I’ve no idea which assistants are good or bad. How does everyone else tell?

Probably something to do with Mob Psychology

 

[ad victoriam]

Senior Assistant isn't a line coach at Hawthorn this year. If Hawthorn can why cant we?

Hawks 2018
Senior Coach: Clarkson
Head fo Footy Ops: Graham Wright
Senior Assistant: Damien Carroll
4 Assistants: Burns Ratten Glass Yze Monkhorst

Isn't Damien Carrol head of coaching and development. similar roles albeit different title to Heath Younie.

 

[FAITH]

looks like the one guy we couldnt get back, is the one guy who will turn out to be a gun.

 

[MRB37]

Senior Assistant isn't a line coach at Hawthorn this year. If Hawthorn can why cant we?

Hawks 2018
Senior Coach: Clarkson
Head fo Footy Ops: Graham Wright
Senior Assistant: Damien Carroll
4 Assistants: Burns Ratten Glass Yze Monkhorst

Because Hawthorn make an extra $20 million a year from pokies.

 

[MRB37]

Nether Sumich nor Ratten are likely to accept any assistant coach position. Then, we would need to create artificial higher positions for them, leading to problems in the AFC pecking order and noses being put out of joint. Not necessarily a bad thing, but AFC are not noted for this sort of behaviour.

We created a position for Burton to land in when he left Brisbane.

 

[Scorpus]

Because Hawthorn make an extra $20 million a year from pokies.

Every club has the same football admin cap

 

[dogs105]

Every club has the same football admin cap

Easier to pay the tax with 20 mill from pokies though

 

[Morning_Fog]

It would not surprise me if Tate Kaesler isn’t appointed as the SANFL coach. He was close to getting the AFLW riole when they started and now that team has an opening.